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SWJS
07-02-2010, 06:57 AM
I dunno about you guys, but this has been bothering me like a bee sting.

Spoilers follow! You have been warned.

Okay, so anyone who saw the E3 demo knows the Borgia completely and utterly destroy the villa at the beginning of AC Brotherhood.

My question is, where was everybody else? Mario has, of course, stomped his last turtle.

But the sequence focuses so much on the action, it fails to explain or even show what happened to the other people.

Where were Maria and Claudia? Did they escape through the back door? Did they die? Did they get captured? Did they die of old age, even though in AC2 they looked like they were drinking from the fountain of youth?

What about the other assassins? Where were they? Machiavelli, Antonio, Paola?

Most importantly, there had to have been SOMEONE left. Ezio got shot and feel off a roof. I doubt he got up and dusted himself off. Who finds him amongst the wreckage?

So many questions left unanswered.

Though I understand AC2 really picks up right with Ezio leaving the vault, so maybe some of these questions will be answered before the villa's destruction.

What are your thoughts and opinions?

Murcuseo
07-02-2010, 07:17 AM
My question is, where was everybody else? Mario has, of course, stomped his last turtle.

+10 Comedy Points

If ACII was anything to go by then a big breasted woman will be cradling Ezio when he wakes up with a sore back, after that we'll find out what happened to everyone else.

More than likely Cesare will have taken Ezios family captive and you'll progressively lose or save them through the game... along with his new wench of course. Although he might forget about Catarina when Rosa turns up... which she will!

I'm expecting your first view of Rome to be an epicly played out cinematic where you arrive with virtually nothing. I have a feeling the devs want you to be slightly overwhelmed by its grandure and having nothing but your sword and hidden blade is the best way to go about it!

I doubt there is much before the demo footage, apart from an intro of course but I have no clue what that might contain...

El_Sjietah
07-02-2010, 07:31 AM
Who's to say any of the other assassins were in Monteriggioni in the first place? I'd say they'd all be in their respective cities. They weren't in Monteriggioni in AC2 either.

notafanboy
07-02-2010, 07:36 AM
i asked this and not one reply

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Murcuseo
07-02-2010, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by notafanboy:
i asked this and not one reply

Phrasing your question properly and adding comedy value usually encourages people to contribute more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SWJS
07-02-2010, 09:38 AM
They weren't in Monteriggioni in AC2 either.
Every single one of them was in the Villa in sequence 14, just before you left for Rome. Why wouldn't they return to Monteriggioni with Ezio to find out what he saw?
I'm expecting your first view of Rome to be an epicly played out cinematic where you arrive with virtually nothing. I have a feeling the devs want you to be slightly overwhelmed by its grandure and having nothing but your sword and hidden blade is the best way to go about it!
I agree here. Starting out Brotherhood peniless, under-armed, and in your jammies would really contribute to the feel of Rome's awesomeness.

I think Claudia and Maria probably would have escaped with the other citizens though. Therefore I'll wager that Ezio will have to escort them to rome, like he escorted them to Monteriggioni in AC2.
I doubt there is much before the demo footage, apart from an intro of course but I have no clue what that might contain... In one of the interviews, can't say for sure which one, one of the devs says Brotherhood picks up with Ezio still in the vault. We'll probably get to see everything that happened after Minerva promptly mindraped everybody.

Mr_Shade
07-02-2010, 10:28 AM
don't forget the demo you see, ends rather abruptly...

So there may well be a scene after that last gun shot. . . that explains just who escaped.. and how..

I'm sure it's common knowledge about the 'back door' theory to most large emplacements / castles / manor houses... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Just my personal thoughts.. I have no 'insider info' on it though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SWJS
07-02-2010, 10:51 AM
Yeah, it looks like Desmond desyncs at that moment, as if Ezio were to die.

tyrce111
07-03-2010, 07:00 AM
Mabey he wakes up out of the Animus 2.0 having chest pains like he was just shot...

Sort of like in avatar when that dudes avatar gets killed...
Looked as if he was having a heart attack...

My question:

What will happen to you priceless paintings...
Your well deserved armour and weaponry, and of course...

What happened to Altairs Armour???

I dont give a rats about ezios family...

But to see the sadness in Eios eyes if he saw that some Borgi wearing it and wiping his spanish snot all over its BEAUTIFUL black matierial...
It Would Break My Heart... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

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El_Sjietah
07-03-2010, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">They weren't in Monteriggioni in AC2 either.
Every single one of them was in the Villa in sequence 14, just before you left for Rome. Why wouldn't they return to Monteriggioni with Ezio to find out what he saw? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They would, but after that they'd probably go about their business again. The events in that demo don't take place the day after AC2 ends.

Fairus60
07-03-2010, 11:16 AM
Answering to tirce, most likely it all got destroyed with the house, except maybe for Altairīs armor, which is suggested to be indestructible, so maybe it just got lost in the debris. Maybe you later return in the game to try to recover it or something. I wonder if the assassin statues in the basement got destroyed too?

AirAssassin
07-03-2010, 01:25 PM
Yeah woulddn't the codex and other imprtant things in the villa get destroyed or were they moved before the borgia attack.

SWJS
07-03-2010, 02:09 PM
I doubt the cannonballs could have penetrated as far down as the sanctuary, so the sanctuary probably survived, unless it caved in. Even so, the statues would probably be intact.

We can clearly see that the villa isn't completely leveled to the ground though. It's severely damaged, but it's still standing at the end of the video.

I believe the Borgias would have probably ransacked what was left, stolen all the valuables, including the codex and weapons from the armory, then burned what was left of the villa to the ground.

While that could explaisn what happened after Ezio got shot, it still doesn't explain where his family was, or who saved him. what wa

EzioAssassin51
07-03-2010, 08:10 PM
I think Altair's Armour gets destroyed. If you look closely, Ezio has a quick glance at the Armour before he runs out which looks pretty bad! I doubt you will go back to get it though because it'd be stupid to go back right at the start of the game and get an armour that makes you invincible!

Drakonous505
07-03-2010, 09:56 PM
If you recall correctly at the beginning of the Assassin's Creed section of the Ubisoft conference they had this almost picture book like part and a woman speaking who in my opinion is Maria. I have a feeling that she and Claudia escaped or found him. You can hear it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ywCqkgO2lM

EzioAssassin51
07-04-2010, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Drakonous505:
If you recall correctly at the beginning of the Assassin's Creed section of the Ubisoft conference they had this almost picture book like part and a woman speaking who in my opinion is Maria. I have a feeling that she and Claudia escaped or found him. You can hear it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ywCqkgO2lM

i thought that was Paola or someone like that!

Drakonous505
07-04-2010, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by EzioAssassin51:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Drakonous505:
If you recall correctly at the beginning of the Assassin's Creed section of the Ubisoft conference they had this almost picture book like part and a woman speaking who in my opinion is Maria. I have a feeling that she and Claudia escaped or found him. You can hear it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ywCqkgO2lM

i thought that was Paola or someone like that! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You might actually be right... It's kind of hard when you don't have audio from other segments of AC2 on hand to compare it to =\

Fairus60
07-04-2010, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by EzioAssassin51:
I think Altair's Armour gets destroyed. If you look closely, Ezio has a quick glance at the Armour before he runs out which looks pretty bad! I doubt you will go back to get it though because it'd be stupid to go back right at the start of the game and get an armour that makes you invincible!
It just got scattered, not destroyed. If you DO look closely, the armor is still in one piece, except for the pauldron and the greaves, which seemingly fell away from the rest of the armor. And I never said that Ezio would return inmediatly, thats why I said LATER, like, close to the end of the game or the middle.