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Trigger_88
09-11-2007, 03:18 AM
Im getting the secure rom error. I looked at my cd and it has developed little white spots everywhare on it and it doesnt read now. Now I cant play, is there anyway to fix it? Oh yeah I have 1946 4.08m

bigbossmalone
09-11-2007, 03:32 AM
Sorry to hear that, Trigger...
the main reason why I always look for a 'workaround' so that my discs stay nice and safe in their sleeves - a frowned upon practise by many, but my discs are virtually unused, and therefore still usable, if you get my meaning.
Hope you can get it sorted, mate!
Maybe speak to whomever you bought the disc from, maybe they'll be prepared to replace it?

rnzoli
09-11-2007, 03:48 AM
Maybe I am a little too observant, but 1946 came on DVD, not CD http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

mattinen
09-11-2007, 04:32 AM
I'm afraid I don't know how to fix that, but in the future you may want back up your CD/DVDs.

With this http://www.alcohol-soft.com/you can create an image of your CD/DVD and with this http://www.disc-tools.com/download/daemonthis you can play the game without having the CD/DVD in the drive.

K_Freddie
09-11-2007, 05:34 AM
Oooooo EVIL.. How can you lot even entertain such thoughts... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I see a big lock appearing over the horizon - yeah! doo bee doo bee doo doo dooooooooooo.

Google or PM them correct words.. and thou DVD shalt be healed allowing thoughst game play to continue...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

FritzGryphon
09-11-2007, 05:41 AM
Because a DVD is also a compact disc, it would be perfectly accurate to call a DVD a CD, even if it's confusing to some.

AFJ_rsm
09-11-2007, 06:02 AM
wipe it with a freshly cut banana


give it a few minutes, then clean with a soft cloth


im serious
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/748070/how_to_remove_cd_scratches_with_a_banana/

Well you mentioned white spots instead of scratches but it won't hurt to try this (specially if your DVD isn't working as it is right now)

MaxMhz
09-11-2007, 06:14 AM
The thing to do is contact
Ubisoft Customer help (http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=205&p_created=961794660&p_sid=S78E6rLi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD0xNDM5LDE0MzkmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B 2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX 25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1) for a replacement.

Alcohol will not copy Securom protected DVDs, nor will any other bitcopier. Leaving the DVD in it's case will not stop it aging.

slo_1_2_3
09-11-2007, 04:27 PM
Um is it just me or do you even need the disk?
I only used it when I installed and it plays without it , and I didn't do nothing to it ,it just works with no disk.
Maybe I'm just cool like that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

DuxCorvan
09-11-2007, 04:33 PM
Those white spots are a fungus you can eliminate with water, hand soap, and a soft cloth to wipe and dry.

Next time keep your DVD in its case after playing, in a dry place, and do not put your fingers on it.

tagTaken2
09-11-2007, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
Um is it just me or do you even need the disk?
I only used it when I installed and it plays without it , and I didn't do nothing to it ,it just works with no disk.
Maybe I'm just cool like that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Yes. It's all you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

One of the releases came without copy protection.

VW-IceFire
09-11-2007, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Those white spots are a fungus you can eliminate with water, hand soap, and a soft cloth to wipe and dry.

Next time keep your DVD in its case after playing, in a dry place, and do not put your fingers on it.
This brings up a question of mine. Ever since CD's came out when I was a bit younger I was told not to touch the back surface. To this day I almost never do except on CD's that I don't care too much about (i.e. I just burned a copy of my old university essays as a second backup and...whatever). Do people really put their fingers on the back of CD's...if so...bad...very bad. Skin oil is corrosive!

Trigger_88
09-11-2007, 05:07 PM
Its not fungus, I tried soap and water and ir wont come off.....Ive tried rubbing alcohol too....wont come off...I dont know what the stuff is, but it looks like its just on the surfaace but it wont come off. Maybee Ill try gasoline next.......If this doesnt wdork how can I play??? I still have the game installed with 4.08m. Ive heard you dont need the cd with some US versions of the game, but mine is an EU game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. This blows like #$%^&*(*( :/

Lurch1962
09-11-2007, 05:17 PM
Believe it or not, but toothpaste works to some degree as a polishing agent! If you have a discardable CD (you know, those "freebies" included with some magazines) do a test on it. Wet a soft cloth and rub in a little paste. Rub the disk for a good while ALL over. Clean and dry it off, then see if it is still readable.

If the foregoing test works out OK, try to remove JUST ONE of the spots on your '46 disk, then clean/dry and inspect closely. If the spot goes away, then polish the rest away, too.

Hope this works, if other means fail!!

--Lurch--

Taylortony
09-11-2007, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Trigger_88:
Its not fungus, I tried soap and water and ir wont come off.....Ive tried rubbing alcohol too....wont come off...I dont know what the stuff is, but it looks like its just on the surfaace but it wont come off. Maybee Ill try gasoline next.......If this doesnt wdork how can I play??? I still have the game installed with 4.08m. Ive heard you dont need the cd with some US versions of the game, but mine is an EU game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. This blows like #$%^&*(*( :/

trigger I will get wrath for this but google the problem and you will find a solution

this may help give you an idea as to what to luck for

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/5091022215/p/2

Monterey13
09-11-2007, 05:34 PM
I use the same procedure as the toothpaste one, only I use creamy peanut butter(not crunchy!!).

It has something to do with the oil in the PB.

steve_v
09-11-2007, 05:35 PM
I see two basic components to your dilemma.

1.) Circumventing the DRM which will allow you to launch your current 4.08 install. That topic is not allowed per forum guidelines, which is why members who feel your pain should not post to this thread. Instead, they should offer their comfort via PM. Its hard to get really intimate in public. You should refrain from seeking this comfort in an overt manner in our forum. Okay?

2.) At some time, you are going to want to install 1946 again for any number of reasons. To do that, you will require a functional disc. From my perspective, MaxMhz provided the information you need which will solve both current and future needs.

FoolTrottel
09-11-2007, 06:00 PM
Its hard to get really intimate in public.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Feathered_IV
09-12-2007, 05:10 AM
Yea, toothpaste does work. So does mild metal polishes like Brasso.

major_setback
09-12-2007, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by FritzGryphon:
Because a DVD is also a compact disc, it would be perfectly accurate to call a DVD a CD, even if it's confusing to some.

Why isn't a CD called a DCD (digital compact disc), as it is in 'DVD'; or for that matter why not call a DVD a VD?

Enforcer572005
09-12-2007, 06:29 AM
Because that's just nasty. Besides, that would make it an STD, and would mean you did something without being married, which is a capitol offense in my state, and they would apply some goofy retro-active morals law to you and throw you in the slammer for naughtiness.

I'm actually not exaggerating TOO much..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

JG4_Greif
09-12-2007, 06:51 AM
The first thing I did when I bought the game and installed it, was to go on this site: http://www.*************.com/
search for the NODVD and copy it into the main folder, so that I don`t need the DVD to start the game.

JG52Uther
09-12-2007, 07:27 AM
Thats a big nono Greif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Quenaelin
09-12-2007, 07:51 AM
10$ for replecement disk, I wouldn't bother, buy new one and support developers, price is somewhere under 30€. I have IL-2 FB and I recently bought 1946 version for playing online, I did my share for this great game.

M_Gunz
09-12-2007, 07:52 AM
I bought a tin of d-skins over a year ago and my copy of 1946 wears one.
Think of them as condoms against what drives do to disks.

Panasonic or someone makes a CD repair kit that will actually grind and then polish disc surfaces.

The white spots I have gotten when using clear auto wax to repair CD's 8 years ago. You put too
much or rub it wrong you get white spots that you have to remove the wax to get out. Hey, it
worked for my MC visors so I tried it on discs!

Xiolablu3
09-12-2007, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by JG4_Greif:
The first thing I did when I bought the game and installed it, was to go on this site: http://www.*************.com/
search for the NODVD and copy it into the main folder, so that I don`t need the DVD to start the game.

You should read what SteveV wrote or just read the forum rules.

Its only common sense that these things should not be discussed on a public forum. Big thanks to SteveV and other moderators for having a sensible approach to these things, they ARE useful when you have the original disc like me.

Trigger I sent you a PM.

stalkervision
09-12-2007, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Trigger_88:
Im getting the secure rom error. I looked at my cd and it has developed little white spots everywhare on it and it doesnt read now. Now I cant play, is there anyway to fix it? Oh yeah I have 1946 4.08m

your lucky,my cd disc drive once completely ate my Pacific Fighters disc! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

It literally chewed it into itty bitty pieces and then spit it out all the pieces all over my rug and half stayed in the drive. Needless to say the disc and my cd drive had to be replaced.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Never but never leave a game disc in a drive when not in use!!

Quenaelin
09-12-2007, 08:39 AM
My game disks are always in drive, I don't bother taking them out when quitting playing. But there is good lesson here, don't buy cheapest drives they broke more easily, buy only models which are known to be good and tested properly. I have Sony and Mitsumi drives.

Capt.LoneRanger
09-12-2007, 08:43 AM
It will be a loooong time until we hear again of Mr. Greif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Chris0382
09-12-2007, 08:58 AM
The way Windows handles CD/DVD drives today constantly reading em, caching, and spinning them till no tomorrow, pausing my system, slowing down everything, wear and tear on the stepper motor and laser head, I would not even consider playing a game if it needed to have the disk in the drive.

Boy do I ever miss DOS gaming. MS really cant get an OS right but can monopolize very well.

I remeber one day windows spun my cousins SIMS game so freaking fast it ruined the disk. Oh boy did his daughter cry and I felt so bad as we had just installed a new graphics board and drivers and felt I was part responsible.

Capt.LoneRanger
09-12-2007, 09:16 AM
You should get more ram and disable AutoRun. The CD has no content that needs to be checked. It's only the routine when you start up a program that makes a CD-check.

Chris0382
09-12-2007, 09:19 AM
Oh I disable autorun all right and you point out a good issue that windows doesnt checks a disk when it shouldnt and it does. I have 2GB ram should be plenty.

I have told windows so many times in the future "do nothing" and it still tries to do something.

Deamon Tools away!! Hi ho Silver http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I dont drink alcohol but I do use it to burn.

rnzoli
09-12-2007, 09:24 AM
You can also remove the DVD from the drive after IL-2 is up and running. As LoneRanger pointed out: you need to pass the validation at game start up only. No need to keep the DVD in the drive for prolonged periods.

Doolittle81
09-12-2007, 11:03 AM
I don't understand the concern over the use of the 'special' *.dll file.

I legitimately bought 1946 on-Line, Downloaded it....I don't even [i]own[/] a Disc. So, the question of keeping a 1946 Disc in a DVD drive is moot. If I can do it with my paid-for, downloaded 1946, why can't those who have purchased the DVD Disc version of 1946 not be able to do the same, simply using the 'special' dll?

I'm not understanding something, I guess.

M_Gunz
09-12-2007, 12:59 PM
I use Nero Drive Speed to control drive speeds and spindown time though it's not perfect.
Discs explode when they have micro-cracks and can't take the centrifuging of constant 32+ speed.

Scharnhorst1943
09-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by FoolTrottel:
Its hard to get really intimate in public.

Would it not be the other way around? Wouldn't getting intimate in public make it harder?

DuxCorvan
09-12-2007, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Scharnhorst1943:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FoolTrottel:
Its hard to get really intimate in public.

Would it not be the other way around? Wouldn't getting intimate in public make it harder? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It always gets hard, no matter the circumstances. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

djetz
09-12-2007, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Doolittle81:
I'm not understanding something, I guess.

What you're not understanding is that UBI says "No!" and UBI own the forum so they make the rules.

I have legit copies of every Il-2 disc back to the first one. Overall, I've paid hundreds of dollars for this software. And, like you, I've found and used the "special" dll file for every version I've owned.

Perhaps UBI should be learning something from legitimate owners like you and me. The original poster's problem isn't an issue for people with pirated copies, it is an issue for legitimate owners.

I've never done it because I've never needed to, but I'm 100% certain that you can copy any CD/DVD with a bit of ingenuity.

Scharnhorst1943
09-12-2007, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
It always gets hard, no matter the circumstances. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Pretty much http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Monterey13
09-12-2007, 04:24 PM
Waaaaaah!

I bought my dvd from gogamer, which is euro, so it requires the dvd to be in when I play.

I have the crack in so I can leave my dvd in the case where it's safe. Wouldn't have it any other way.

Also, to be on the safe side, I have burned a 2nd WORKING dvd, just in case something happens to the first. So, yes it's possible. It will never leave my house, though. I don't support piracy, never have. If these developers don't make any money, then we don't get new games/sims.

M_Gunz
09-12-2007, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Trigger_88:
Im getting the secure rom error. I looked at my cd and it has developed little white spots everywhare on it and it doesnt read now. Now I cant play, is there anyway to fix it? Oh yeah I have 1946 4.08m

You *could* learn how to use search engines. It's quicker than forum posting.

Viper2005_
09-12-2007, 08:02 PM
Ok, so:

- Somebody asks a controversial question.

- After the usual b/s, a moderator posts the best possible answer to the question given the legal, commercial and practical realities of the situation.

- This is taken by a depressingly large number of people to amount to a license to push the limits of the forum rules.

GROW UP!

I suggest that all posts in this thread other than the first post and steve_v's response be deleted, the thread be locked and then pinned.

bigbossmalone
09-13-2007, 01:53 AM
Prob'ly a good idea, Viper...
its all getting nowhere now, just sinking into the murky depths....

JimmyBlonde
09-13-2007, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Lurch1962:
Believe it or not, but toothpaste works to some degree as a polishing agent!
--Lurch--

Not surprisingly, given that the actual purpose of tooth paste is to polish teeth, I actually do believe you. I am not sure how coarse the 'cut' is so I would be hesitant to risk an important cd with the stuff.

Give the bananna a go, just so you can say you did it at least. I bet it works.

marie103
09-13-2007, 03:53 AM
ehm, congratulations that you can paly again with that.

i know that you need prevent you figures touch that surface of DVD and keep them in a dry place.

in that way, you will feeling much better.