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IVJG51_Swine
04-18-2004, 10:23 PM
Hey guys, I am a pretty new to the Pacific War arena. Can you guys give me some recommendations for some good books to read. Thanks

IVJG51_Swine
04-18-2004, 10:23 PM
Hey guys, I am a pretty new to the Pacific War arena. Can you guys give me some recommendations for some good books to read. Thanks

ckur
04-18-2004, 11:12 PM
The Jolly Rogers by Tom Blackburn is a good one and Then you might want to try Black Sheep: The Definitive Account of Marine Fighting Squadron 214 in World War II by Bruce Gamble.

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F19_Olli72
04-19-2004, 01:54 AM
I liked "Kamikaze" by Yasuo Kuwahara & Gordon T Allred & "I was a Kamikaze" by Ryuji Nagatsuka.

The book by Kuwahara portrays many of the cruelties and brutality of the war (specially the descriptions of what the cadets had to endure during training), while Nagatsuka is more emotional and philosophic. Both good books though.

Ive mostly read Japanese pilot memoirs, so could someone recommend allied pilots books?

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Giganoni
04-19-2004, 01:57 AM
With The Old Breed by I think P.F. Sledge is a good marine memoir

A bigger book dealing with propoganda, atrocities, etc look at A War Without Mercy by John Dower

Alyssa1127
04-19-2004, 03:16 AM
Samurai! Definitely Samurai. Focuses on Saburo Sakai of the Imperial Japanese Navy - the greatest Japanese ace to survive WW2.


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Scottly666
04-19-2004, 03:37 AM
I'd recommend 'Eagle Against the Sun' by Ronald H. Spector. It's probably the best general account of the war in the Pacific and CBI theatres.

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04-19-2004, 05:50 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif "Angles Twenty" by Ted Park. A US Army Cobra pilot who flew in New Guinea.

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BarkhornXX
04-19-2004, 07:00 AM
Here are some of the better ones (Caution = scholarship ahead);
1. A Battle History of the Imperial Japanese Navy, 1941-1945 by Paul S. Dull
2. The Fast Carriers: The Forging of an Air Navy
by Clark G. Reynolds
3. The First Team: Pacific Naval Air Combat from Pearl Harbor to Midway by John B. Lundstrom
4. The First Team and the Guadalcanal Campaign: Naval Fighter Combat from August to November 1942 by John B. Lundstrom

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Chuck_Older
04-19-2004, 07:06 AM
Clash of Wings by Walter Boyne
Wake of the Wahoo by Forrest Sterling (he was actually a crew member)

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Rudee37
04-19-2004, 08:53 AM
Of about a dozen books I've read about the Pacific Theatre, my personal fav's in order are:

1. Black Sheep: The Definitive Account of Marine Fighting Squadron 214 in World War II by Bruce Gamble.

2. Zero: by Masatake Okumiya & Jiro Horikoshi

3. Samurai: Saburo Sakai

Gunner_361st
04-19-2004, 09:43 AM
"Fire in the Sky: The Air War in the South Pacific" by Bergerud (might have mis-spelled his name)

Lots of good reading on tactics and literal information of the competing air forces. Also features war photos. Lots of reading, very thick book.

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PF_Talus
04-19-2004, 10:25 AM
Roger that Gunner. I probably learned more about air war in general from that book than from all the others I've read combined. Highly recommended.


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tttiger
04-19-2004, 01:52 PM
Amen.

"Fire in the Sky" is the best book I've ever read on WWII air combat.

If I could read ony one book on the PTO air war, this would be it.

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grist
04-19-2004, 05:00 PM
"The Thousand-Mile War" by Brian Garfield

grist
04-19-2004, 05:00 PM
Double post

SkyChimp
04-19-2004, 06:37 PM
Of all the books I've read on the Pacific war, none held my interest like Fire In The Sky. The First Team, Bloody Shambles, etc were all very good. But for wealth of information and shear readability, Fire In The Sky rates first with me.

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GK.
04-19-2004, 07:00 PM
take Samurai with a grain of salt. it is questionable and has been questioned by respected historians.

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A.K.Davis
04-19-2004, 08:46 PM
I'm in the midst of this:

Sunburst: The Rise of the Japanese Naval Air Power, 1909-1941

and it is very good.

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04-19-2004, 08:47 PM
oh my god, I've been denied my flying pug sig. The infamy!

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huggy87
04-19-2004, 08:57 PM
Baa Baa Blacksheep- Boyington

Samurai- Sakai

A marine night fighter pilot- Porter

Aces against Japan 1 & 2- Hammel

BigBoy01
04-20-2004, 05:30 AM
Many of the good ones that I'm familiar with have been listed above. Some "Big Picture" , personal favorites, and others to investigate, :

World War II in the Pacific: An Encyclopedia, edited by Stanley Sandler(kind of like sound bites for the eyes when you want some pot luck topics to read.)

The Pacific war Atlas 1941-1945 by David Smurthwaite.

Eagle Against the Sun: The American War with Japan by Ronald Spector.

The Pacific War by John Costello

Pacific Campaign: The US-Japanese Naval war 1941-1945 by Dan Van Der Vat.

Also, any books you do look at check the bibliography. Always a great source for other leads to investigate, unfortunately many may be out of print.

Somewhere else, in either this or the IL2 forum, someone did a nice list of 30 or so books on various topics with a focus on air combat. Do a search under "All are air focused." to locate the thread.

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perioikos
04-20-2004, 09:38 AM
"Fire in the Sky: The Air War in the South Pacific" by Bergerud (might have mis-spelled his name)

Always think of the poor P-39's ... when a Japanese raid on Port Moresby was spotted on radar, the P-39's would take off and fly away south over the water, in an attempt to gain altitude before the Japanese arrived. Apparently, these P-39's were referred to as the "fishing fleet" by the defenders on the ground. Most often, by the time they got altitude and turned back north towards New Guinea, the Japanese had finished their visit and already gone. Which P-39 will we be getting in PF (Russian or American)?

Also, this book has a nice little section in praise of the P-47.

Also, "Touched by Fire" about the land war in is just a great introduction to the early war in the Pacific. Makes one appreciate in some small way the dirty, nasty, and second-hand war that was fought in the Pacific during 42-43.

michaelbjork
04-20-2004, 11:22 AM
Bloody Shambles Vol 1 "The Drift to War to
the Fall of Singapore" by Christopher Shores, Brian Cull & Yasuho Isawa.

and

Bloody Shambles Vol 2 "From the Defence of Sumatra to the Fall of Burma" by Christopher Shores, Brian Cull & Yasuho Isawa

These are top notch books expressing the British point of view.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

uberweng
04-20-2004, 12:01 PM
I reccomend the book KOGUN THE JAPANESE ARMY IN THE PACIFIC WAR by SABURO HAYASHI. Its a military history written by a japanese officer after the war. It was translated by the Marine Corps Association soon after it was published. As well as being a superb book it also has another outstanding feature, its available for free here;

http://www.mcu.usmc.mil/ftw/files/kogun.txt

It was published by the Marine Corps Association after the war and they havemade it freely available on the net.

Enjoy,
Uberweng

Capt._Tenneal
04-20-2004, 12:22 PM
I've seen the 15-volume History of Naval Operations in World War II by Samuel Eliot Morison reissued recently. Has anyone checked that out ? Is it a good reference work ?

Cattail4
04-20-2004, 01:41 PM
I would also like to recommend "Fire In the Sky", I've read many books on this historical time period and this one is by far the most complete. Should be able to find it at your local library too.

S! Cat

Capt._Tenneal
04-20-2004, 02:30 PM
Check used book stores in your area. I was able to find a softcover version of Fire In The Sky in pretty good condition too. A lot of these stores will accept trade-ins for store credit, further making some of these books affordable.

grist
04-20-2004, 04:20 PM
Also,

"Doomed at the Start" by William H. Bartsch.

Hopefully there will be a 1941 Philippines campaign in PF. P-35s and P-40s vs Zeros.

Latico
04-20-2004, 05:49 PM
For online reading try these.

This site is maintained by the CV-6 Organization and includes the declassified Action Reports and Logs of the CV-6 USS Enterprise (and some action reports by the aircrews that served) from 7 Dec 41 to it's last engagements of the PTO, a history of the Big E and the AG's that flew from her decks.
CV6,ORG (http://www.cv6.org)

This site has printable brochures published by the US Army that give detailed history of the ground force movements of both theaters of operations during WWII. Each brochure inludes analyses of the campaigns, both the problems and the successes. (Sorry, not much to do with the airwar)
US Army - WWII (http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/collections/WW2-Broch.htm)

Enjoy.

IVJG51_Swine
04-20-2004, 06:41 PM
Wow, thanks for the info.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Copperhead310th
04-20-2004, 07:23 PM
Thunderbolt! Republic P-47's in the Pacific.

Just orderd it. Has 2 310th aircraft on the cover. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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VF-3Thunderboy
04-20-2004, 11:46 PM
Barrette Tillman:
Wildcat
Hellcat
Corsair
Do amazon search for:P-38 etc. Youll get a ton of books.

Flight manuals from ww2 aircraft.

Ive got an old old book I read, then "Lived" in CFS2: Gratest fighter missions/Edward sims.Amazing!-Cheap at amazon.

Baa-Baa Blacksheep, a CLASSIC. (take with Grain of salt also)

VF-3Thunderboy
04-20-2004, 11:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Hopefully there will be a 1941 Philippines campaign in PF. P-35s and P-40s vs Zeros. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Eh? Wone dis ting have Mishion Bilder? I thing dis thing needs a mishion builder. I will PAY for a mishion bilder. I not kidding! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

aminx
05-02-2004, 03:03 PM
now reading "fire in the sky".thick book, very interesting,all aspects taken into account.By the time i finnish this book i'll be playing PF in autumn with much more knowledge in my thick head http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
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DStrong86
05-02-2004, 06:57 PM
I know there's some specific Ace books on different threads but can't find them ... here's what some of us are hoping for a later patch or 3rd party add-on later in the Air War ...

Related books - Flying Tigers in China and the overall Burma Theater (British and American)

(go to thread) Burma, PTO or NO?
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Scottly666
05-03-2004, 07:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
I've seen the 15-volume _History of Naval Operations in World War II_ by Samuel Eliot Morison reissued recently. Has anyone checked that out ? Is it a good reference work ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's not great for descriptions of air combat, except for parts of the Marianas and Leyte volumes. Morison has a bizarre tendency to put extracts of poems in some sections of his book which may or may not have anything to do with what he's writing, and as a naval officer himself he absolutely refuses to criticise any of the guys who made mistakes (Spruance, Halsey, Kinkaid etc.)

But as a repositary of facts on the Pacific, its unparalleled.

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owlwatcher
05-03-2004, 08:53 AM
These are the books I like
Engineers of the Southwest Pacific 1941-1945
Vol,IV Amphibian Engineer Operations
Vol.VI Air field and base development
The detailed maps are what makes these great books. You will need to find maps of the central Pacfic else where. Guadalcanal is in the central pacific.

History of United States Navel Operations in World War II. Samuel Morision
This set of books is a basic background Of the Pacific fighting. Good maps and detailed battles. Worth there weight in referance material.
Guadalcanal by Richard B. Frank
Well written .
The Rising Sun by John Toland
But not in Shame by John Toland
Eagle Against the Sun by Ronald H. Spector
Good quick overview

Get books on the Flying Tigers and follow them threw the war . Makes for some good reading.
Books about or written by Saburo Sakai are worth looking into.

huggy87
05-03-2004, 07:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-3Thunderboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Hopefully there will be a 1941 Philippines campaign in PF. P-35s and P-40s vs Zeros. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Eh? Wone dis ting have Mishion Bilder? I thing dis thing needs a mishion builder. I will PAY for a mishion bilder. I not kidding! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Thunderboy, have you been drinking? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

ElAurens
05-03-2004, 11:24 PM
OOPS!!! Double post.

ElAurens
05-03-2004, 11:24 PM
Everyone should have:

"Japanese Aircraft Code Names & Designations"
by Robert C. Mikesh, published by Schiffer

It comprises a complete list of Japanese military aircraft and their allied code names, with a photo or drawing and a short description. Also gives the history of how the code names were chosen and by whom.

Also lists all Japanese aircraft that had no asigned code name. (Ki 100 for example...)

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