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Baltar
05-02-2004, 05:16 PM
I've always had alot of trouble with rudder control on my Logitech Wingman Extreme joystick (it has one of those twisty stick style rudder controls). when trying to bring my guns to bear I invariable oscillate wildly back and forth. Am I doing something wrong? Is my joystick crappy? Are physical rudder pedals the only way to go??

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Baltar
05-02-2004, 05:16 PM
I've always had alot of trouble with rudder control on my Logitech Wingman Extreme joystick (it has one of those twisty stick style rudder controls). when trying to bring my guns to bear I invariable oscillate wildly back and forth. Am I doing something wrong? Is my joystick crappy? Are physical rudder pedals the only way to go??

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adlabs6
05-02-2004, 05:32 PM
When I clicked this thread I wondered if I would see Logitech.

It's very possible that the twist stick is spiking. Look down into the cockpit while you are flying, and watch the pedals. If they are kicking heavily without you inputing that data, then the joystick is probably the cause. Logitech Wingman Extremes are very well known for this problem. I had three of them do this. I bought another stick (Saitek X45) after the last time. I don't have rudder pedals.

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Kamikaze_Gibbon
05-02-2004, 05:55 PM
I agree with what adlabs6 says. I went through 2 Logitech Wingman sticks before getting fed up with this, I then switched to a Saitek X-45. This stick will cost about 80 to 90 but it is well worth it.

I you do decide to get an X-45 (The stick not the Boeing UCAV http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif) then be aware that the rudder control is on a rocker switch which will take time to get used to. However AFAIK a few people on these forums have modified theirs to replace the rocker switch with a set of rudder pedals.

Hiriyu
05-02-2004, 05:59 PM
Yep, I see this with the Wingman too (I have the same one as you). I personally lock the twist "feature" to minimize its effect, and use my driving pedals for rudder control. Even when locked, the twist-stick will read small values and cause twitchy control.

LeadSpitter_
05-02-2004, 06:52 PM
definatly the stick, it happened to my logitech wingman extreme after 2 weeks. I wound up getting so mad a smashed the controller. Nothing fixed the problem new drivers, adjust the rudder sensativity and deadzone from within il2fb.

I went to return the stick before smashing it and its 15 bucks extra for shipping and handling to return it and get a new one so i got extra mad.

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Fehler
05-02-2004, 07:43 PM
Hey Leadspitter, ever try anger management? LOL

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Yosumi
05-02-2004, 08:07 PM
I have the stick, and I just switched my rudder control back to keyboard only inside IL-2. the problem for me though is that the pring on the stick is too light and I am almost always using rudder accidently, the stick isnt malfunctioning in any way.

Loco-S
05-02-2004, 09:59 PM
Open the joystick, remove the potentiometer, go to an electronics store and buy another of good quality ( remember 100k potentiometer) make sure the dowel ( the thing that moves) is of the right lenght and width, also same shape...there are dozens of different shapes. then reinstall it and get to work on those enemy planes.

It (depending on quality) will not cost more than 15 dollars.

have fun.

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Baltar
05-02-2004, 11:01 PM
Cool! Thanks Loco. I'll look into that after exams are over.

Tully__
05-03-2004, 04:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Baltar:
Cool! Thanks Loco. I'll look into that after exams are over.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Meantime, turn filtering all the way up on the yaw axis, that will smooth it out a little, though at the expense of some loss of rapid response.

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Franzen
05-03-2004, 06:09 AM
Congratulations Baltar! You're gonna be a daddy! Ooooops, sorry, misread your thread title. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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