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HeinzBar
02-24-2005, 06:30 PM
S!,
Just curious about what planes are most needed in IL2/FB/AEP/PF? From most needed, I mean those planes that had a great impact on different fronts, yet are not currently in the game.

For me, I'd say:

VVS: Pe-2
LW: ju-88
IJN/IJA: betty
RAF:Typhoon
USAFF: b17/b24 - one or the other would fit fine. Can you imagine the LW trying to shoot one of these monsters down w/ the weapons currently modeled? LOL

HB

JG53Frankyboy
02-24-2005, 06:43 PM
a IJAAF bomber , AI controled , a Ki-21 ore Ki-48 !

thats a, from a view of a missionbuilder , realy missed plane.

VW-IceFire
02-24-2005, 06:55 PM
For Normandy and late war West Europe stuff?

I'd love to see:
- FW190F-9 with Panzerfaust rockets
- B-26 AI
- A-26 flyable (complete with armament options including 8 .50cal gunpods)

And of course my hot list includes the Tempest V, Spitfire XIV, and the Typhoon (but we'll never see that one in this game).

darkhorizon11
02-24-2005, 07:17 PM
I was hoping for just maybe a couple more British bombers.

The Ar-234 of course that thing was nastyyy, and the Japanese Shinden that thing is a beast too.

The other one would be the Do-335 and the Mosquito but were getting those so I won't whine.

StG77_Fritz_X
02-24-2005, 07:41 PM
Vickers Wellington.

LeadSpitter_
02-24-2005, 08:25 PM
look in orr hienz the constant whines worked and made oleg make change. You dont even need guns 190s and 109s can fly right thru all heavy bombers wings without a scratch.

Its a good thing the mg151 is getting stronger but its a bad thing if all weapons dont get corrected and just mg151.

whats next elevator whines dm whines the 190 when shot in the wing becoming unstable becuase its overmodeled rudder effectiveness and over sensative roll like the b239 yak i16 p40 and others? and loosing speed which happens to all ac in game but just whine for that? Oleg will probally change anything you guys constantly post about same 8-9 people for 15-16 pages in many threads just to fix the only plane they fly.


b-26
b-24 flyable
pe2

arado 234

fixed me262 fm and no instant fires being put out and the backbone of the luft on the eastern front the do217 which is missing from this game.
109g4 is needed, he100, and some german hs biplanes

lancaster bomber and tallboy bomb

the p51a b c with 4 hispano cannon

late war hurricanes with vickers cannon

flyable
kate
ki27
ki44
george
japanese biplanes
american and british float planes


french, czech, italian, slovak and polish ac are needed very much as well and maps

pourshot
02-24-2005, 08:28 PM
I want this one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~andycarroll68/New_LA_7.jpg

lbhskier37
02-24-2005, 08:58 PM
Another useful on topic post by Copperhead v2.0

Anything eastern front is needed. The russians have needed a real medium bomber since IL2 originally came out.

3.JG51_BigBear
02-24-2005, 09:10 PM
I'd say an Avenger, Devastator, P-47M/N, B-24, B-17, a Nick, any flyable Japanese torpedo plane, or just about anything to really add to the Pacific, but since we won't get it, I'm glad at least the British might finally be getting some of their birds in the patch rather than another Spitfire (honestly how many Spits, 109s and Yaks did any of us need) and hopefully the Italian AC will make it in cause their models just look sweet and it would be a shame to see them go to waste..

ElAurens
02-24-2005, 09:11 PM
Ki 27, A5M, Nakajima Type 96, and the proper maps for them.

Gladiator MkII, Swordfish, Fulmar, Firefly. to properly represent the RN.

P36/Hawk 75, A 36, P40 N. because I like them.

Curtiss SB2C, Curtiss SOC. because you cannot have to many Curtiss aircraft.

Ju 88, Do 17, Hs 129.

MC202 MC 200 MC 205... because they are sexy.

FatBoyHK
02-25-2005, 12:11 AM
please give us flyable b17, I bet you Oleg, it is not a complete ETO sim without it!!!

ImpStarDuece
02-25-2005, 12:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FatBoyHK:
please give us flyable b17, I bet you Oleg, it is not a complete ETO sim without it!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny, I dont ever remember anyone claiming it was.

As for me, Ki-44 would go down a treat as would and A5M. As for those fighting on the side of good, truth, justice and mom's apple pie early P-38 variants (F and H would suit me), as would a SeaHurricane and Stringbag for our tea and whisky drinking friends.


The Axis need more Italian birds; Re-2001, Mc 202, 205, and a couple of others and a Ju-88 and Mossie to square off against each other would be quite laudable as well.

StellarRat
02-25-2005, 12:42 AM
We REALLY need a flyable B-17 or B-24. That's the only thing preventing us from doing some "REAL" ETO missions.

_Neveraine_
02-25-2005, 12:51 AM
Anything Italian and the Pe-2 + Ju-8

HeinzBar
02-25-2005, 07:18 AM
S!,
I guess I didn't make it clear. I was curious what the most needed planes are in the series, not the most desireable. I was hoping that the post wouldn't degenerate into suspected bug fixes or exotic plane selection.

IMHO, the sim has more than enough fighters. What we really need are the medium bombers and fighter bombers.

HB

horseback
02-25-2005, 09:08 AM
NEEDED:

Ki-27 Nate-IJAAF's primary fighter type for the first year of the Pacific war, soldiered on in some frontline units for another year. Properly modelled would be very fun to fly.

F1M(?) Pete-two seater biplane float fighter, often found in the Solomons. Another glorious cr@pplane, so maneuverable that you can fly up your own @ss with it.

Flyable Macchi 202/205-been waiting for these thoroughbreds for three years now. Way overdue.

P-38F/G/H- so that the current FM will almost be accurate. Elevator authority, compression effects, gunshake and stall will still need fixing, though.

P-40F/L- the Merlin engined variants of the Warhawk. IMHO, the peak of the Curtiss line.

Ki-21 Sally(AI)-so the guys flying Hawk 81s and pretending to be flying Tigers have an authentic target.

Ki-43-II/III Oscars-Oscar served right to the end, and the improved models should be included, because like the Zero, it was always there.

N1K1/2 George-both flavors of George should be included, but as long as my Mustang's wings fall off without provocation and my Lightning flops & spins around like a fish on a line, the motor (and the Ki-84's) should be prone to occasional loss of power, just like the real thing.

Bf-110C(flyable)-an important part of the LW's order of battle in the East, sadly missing from my reticle.

F4U-4 Corsair-it actually saw wartime service, unlike a number of flyables already in the inventory. 'Nuff said.

P-47M/N Thunderbolts-ditto.

Flyable TBF/Ms and Kates-major players in the Pacific, must haves.

cheers

horseback

ddsflyer
02-25-2005, 09:58 AM
Let's see........

Any British bombers (Lancaster, Wellington, Mosquito, Stirling, Halifax)

Any nightfighters (He-219, P-61, Mosquito)

Any late war Japanese fighters (Shiden, Shiden-Kai, Reppu, Jack)

American aircraft (B-26, A-26, A-36, F4U-4, F2G, F8F)

German aircraft (Do-335)

British Fighters (Tempest V, Tempest II, Typhoon, Whirlwind, Spit XIV, Spit I & II)

Chuck_Older
02-25-2005, 10:15 AM
Ki-27
A5M


More liason aircraft. We have the Storch...but what about other country's "Grasshoppers"?

Blohm and Voss Viking...because I want to shoot it down oh so much...


Italian bombers

RedNeckerson
02-25-2005, 10:40 AM
We desperately need Italian fighters. They are WAY overdue.

Pe-2. Amazed we don't have it yet. Tupolev would be too much to ask.

Flyable Po-2.

Bf 110C.

Ju-88. One of the best twins evah.

Do-217. Stinks but looks like we'll never get the Dornier and it's 8,800lb bombload http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Flyable Ju-52. Ability to make supply drops (crates) at least for the AI.

Flyable Fi-56 Storch. Talk about maneuverability.

FW190F Panzerblitz. Incredible that this historically correct variant isn't in considering the HUGE amount of ordinance that has been given to some other a/c.

Droptanks and external ordinance for 109F series and FW190D series. Again, to me it is amazing we don't have these loadout options cosidering what has been given to other a/c in the sim that have been around for a much shorter time.

Mossie. Best RAF a/c.

Typhoon.

P-38F.

P-47 w/o water injection. These were the most common variants up to D-Day. But the crybabies wouldn't want them.

Beaufort-RAF
02-25-2005, 12:16 PM
Blenheim
Swordfish
Fulmar
Firefly
Beaufort
Wellington
Boston III
Hurricane tankbuster
Hurricane IIc with bombs

cygfrain
02-25-2005, 12:31 PM
Flyable Hawker Tempest V
Flyable Hawker Typhoon 1B
Flyable De Havilland Mosquito Mk IV
Flyable De Havilland Mosquito Mk VI

Please

CheeseWeaver
02-25-2005, 02:17 PM
the Il-10
it would be the perfect last plane to add to complete the development circle of Il-2. its only logical.

GerritJ9
02-25-2005, 02:26 PM
Flyable: Hawk 75A-7
B339C, D and E
Ki27
A5M

AI: Hudson
Do24
Glenn Martin B-10
G3M
Ki21

But I'm happy with anything we get, whether Eastern Front, Far East, Med or NW Europe.

Badsight.
02-25-2005, 02:50 PM
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/clippa-IL10Whine2.JPG

harryklein66
02-25-2005, 03:10 PM
Flyable :
D 520 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif
H 75/p 36
boston III
Blenheim MK IV
Ki 27
A5M

IA:
Leo45 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif
G3M
Ki 21
D4Y

Lav69
02-25-2005, 04:02 PM
A WW1 flight sim from Oleg. All those planes. Yeah.

Dizyer
02-25-2005, 04:37 PM
B-25 H flyable and avenger flyable.
B-29 would be nice as well along with the B-24 capable of dropping the BAT.

TriggerHappy57
02-25-2005, 04:49 PM
B24
B17

Bearcat99
02-25-2005, 05:01 PM
Flyable Mossie
Flyable B-17
Flyable Betty
Flyable JU-88
Flyable Tempest
Flyable Lancaster
Flyable Avenger.......

IMO those are the only ones I see that we need to completely round out the sim... All that other stuff is wants not needs.

From what I understand the Mossie,Tempest,Ju-88 and Betty are coming so that leaves the Lancaster, B-17 and Avenger.

p1ngu666
02-25-2005, 05:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Flyable Mossie
Flyable B-17
Flyable Betty
Flyable JU-88
Flyable Tempest
Flyable Lancaster
Flyable Avenger.......

IMO those are the only ones I see that we _need_ to completely round out the sim... All that other stuff is _wants_ not needs.

From what I understand the Mossie,Tempest,Ju-88 and Betty are coming so that leaves the Lancaster, B-17 and Avenger. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

u forgot russian, japanease, italian aircraft bearcat http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

glad to see im having a effect on the 99th, with those british aircraft up there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

p1ngu666
02-25-2005, 05:07 PM
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1378.html

italian eyecandy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Galaboo
02-25-2005, 05:20 PM
How about the planes that matter?

Arado 234
Ju 88

We need more German planes, we have like a billion Allied and 30 German, those 2 would make it even in my opinion. Those 2 planes would make the German side complete.

harryklein66
02-25-2005, 05:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
All that other stuff is _wants_ not needs.
so that leaves the Lancaster, B-17 and Avenger. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Galaboo
02-25-2005, 07:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The Ar-234 of course that thing was nastyyy. The other one would be the Do-335 and the Mosquito but were getting those so I won't whine. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ar-234 SHOULD be in this game.

Do-335 is going to be in AEP? Holy ****, that is truly awesome!

LEXX_Luthor
02-25-2005, 08:36 PM
With Betty in the Bag, most needed plane now is Flyable B6N torpedo bomber with cockpit being worked on now by Zneg.

Pe~2 and Ju~88 also neede the most.

Bearcat99
02-25-2005, 10:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:

u forgot russian, japanease, italian aircraft bearcat http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

glad to see im having a effect on the 99th, with those british aircraft up there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope I didnt forget them at all.... the italian stuff is a done deal from what I am seeing... and frankly I think we have a pretty wide variety of Russian and Japanese AC already once we get the flyable Betty and that other Japanese torp bomber whose name escapes me at the moment... but the Avenger,flyable B-17 and flyable Lancaster would really round things out IMO.... I think the Tempest,Mossie and the Ju-88 are coming along with the Italian stuff, or shortly there after so it is a non issue AFAIC.

F19_Orheim
02-26-2005, 04:09 AM
Any flyable(!) biplane... or flyable(!) Fokker XXI would do it for me.

Monson74
02-26-2005, 04:37 AM
Ki-27
Mossie IV (bomber)
Pe-2/3
A Lancaster or B-17 would be great because I like being the bad guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

carguy_
02-26-2005, 04:46 AM
Pe2 being the top priority plane
Ju88 being the EF top priority
Betty being the PTO top priority

All current AI planes.

ASM 1
02-26-2005, 10:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Galaboo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The Ar-234 of course that thing was nastyyy. The other one would be the Do-335 and the Mosquito but were getting those so I won't whine. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ar-234 SHOULD be in this game.

Do-335 is going to be in AEP? Holy ****, that is truly awesome! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah Do 335 would be nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Lemme see - *Digs Out "German Aircraft of WWII" book...

JU88

Heinkel He 219 UHU nightfighter (not going to happen) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

JU52

..... I could go on but most of it has already been said...

Spit XIV http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mossie

Lancaster

Other big heavy bombers flyable.....

IL-10

Personal wants...

TA152C http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif (waits for cries of "not ANOTHER bloody FW!".... mwahahaha)
and or FW190 D11/12

Boulton Paul Defiant http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (BOB I think http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif - still It'd be nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)