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napalm747
01-31-2005, 12:09 AM
Oleg, I am sure others have mentioned their desire for this but here is yet another humble request. It would be so amazing if you could put out a Korean war era sim using your expertise in aircraft modelling. Something with F9F panthers, F-86 Sabres, Mig-15 and the like. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt it would be received soooooooooo well by the flight sim community. If not then maybe just a add-on for IL-2 using the IL-2 engine.

Napalm747

LEXX_Luthor
01-31-2005, 12:48 AM
You can't sell Korea sims. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Only one side has any real Choice of Flyable planes and Offensive missions and Escort missions. Also, FB does not have the high altitude grafix to really support high altitude jet simming.

Don't give up! You want to ask Oleg for 1950-1970 combat jet sim with totally new game engine, something that would interest flight simmers all over the world and can sell all over the world. Then Oleg could easily make Korea addon pac, especially if the Korea players like F~86 and MiG~15 were held in "reserve" for the addon pac.

Some good possibilities...

Korea
Vietnam
Middle East
Greece/Turkey
India/Pakistan
General Cold War turn Hot War... The Su~27 Flaker and LOMAC series always assumed Cold War turning Hot War between Russia and Ukraine


Look at how we talk about and compare our FB/PF experiences simming P~51, P~47, Spitfire, Fw190, Bf190, Yak, LaGG, MiG~3, Po, Regiannes (soon), Fiats (soon)...

For Korea Sim, all we will talk about is F~86 and MiG~15...

1950-1970 Sim would let us talk about comparing all our F~84G, F~86, F~100, F~101, F~102, F~104 (Lockeed(tm), maybe not), F~105 (Republic(tm), maybe not), MiG~17, MiG~19, MiG~21, Su~7, Hawker Hunter, Supermanrine Swift, Folland Gnat, Dessault Mystere, Mirage III, Saab J~29, J~35...even an Italian but I forgot its name.

Almost all the Korea prop planes we already have in FB/PF. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Blottogg
01-31-2005, 05:01 AM
Instead of Korea, I'll put a vote in for a WWI sim based on the current engine. Graphics and the simplified Ai FM would make the current engine a poor choice for high speeds and altitudes, but wouldn't be a handicap modeling Dr.I's and Pups. As an example, go into QMB and call up a fight between CR.42's, Gladiators and/or P-11.c's, then another with P-80's, Me-262's and/or He-162's. The first has few or no UFO moments, and looks good, while the latter usually involves some eye-watering Ai nonsense.

Ikarus13
01-31-2005, 06:52 AM
zzzzz http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

oh no man PF is to much, and u would have a korea war, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif zzzzz
Il2 is a (Forgotten Battel) like Finnland and such maps but not Pacific ore Korea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
it is so unimportantly!!!!

blue_76
01-31-2005, 02:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blottogg:
Instead of Korea, I'll put a vote in for a WWI sim based on the current engine. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I second that! I would love a WW1 sim.

VW-IceFire
01-31-2005, 03:16 PM
Luthor, why would there be a problem with flyable aircraft with the Korean War?

I think it'd be great.

F-51 Mustang, F4U-4 Corsair, F-80 Shooting Star, F-86 Sabre, F9F Panther and then square them off against the IL-10, Yak-9U, and Mig-15. Oh and a RN Hawker Sea Fury for good measure.

LEXX_Luthor
01-31-2005, 05:21 PM
Czech out Blottogg...
Blottogg:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Graphics and the simplified Ai FM would make the current engine a poor choice for high speeds and altitudes <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Korea Addon Pac for FB would be "good."
New Maddox 1950-1970 Jetsim would be Great. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> F-51 Mustang, F4U-4 Corsair, F-80 Shooting Star, IL-10, Yak-9U... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
We already have *all* those in FB, or they are coming in FB (IL~10, and Yak~15 coming too in Russian CD), or they were possibly coming in FB but can't because of "Vought"

Addon Pac for the Korea Addon Pac could include Supermarine Swift, Hawker Hunter, Folland Gnat, BAC Lightning, or Canberra. But then we would want the sim made on new game engine, like the 1950-1970 Maddox jet sim. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

LEXX_Luthor
01-31-2005, 05:43 PM
~~> crucial point

1950-1970 combat aircraft in general are probably easier to obtain data for than WW2 aircraft (in general), but do not have the Super Modern computer avionics and display modding needed like the 1980 "popular" jets.

The LOMAC Devs said on their ubi webboard that they won't add Flyable Mirage2000 cockpit because modding the French made avionics would be like creating a new flight sim from start. I doubt Mystere or even Mirage III or IV has that severe avionics modding, yet cockpit detail for these mid century jets are easy to find.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

p1ngu666
01-31-2005, 07:17 PM
and no silly woman saying pull up, maxium angle of attack etc? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Badsight.
01-31-2005, 09:23 PM
i know a WW1 sim would be hella fun , but to me a Korean CFS would be the ultimate

the ULTIMATE i say

Badsight.
01-31-2005, 09:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blottogg:
As an example, go into QMB and call up a fight between CR.42's, Gladiators and/or P-11.c's, then another with P-80's, Me-262's and/or He-162's. The first has few or no UFO moments, and looks good, while the latter usually involves some eye-watering Ai nonsense. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
oh please , thats pure jet bias nonsense

napalm747
01-31-2005, 10:30 PM
A 1950-1970 Jet sim would be incredible. If done right it sure would be a money maker for Maddox and Oleg. I would snatch it up in a second as I am sure millions of others would. Oleg, you know we want it.

Hey Blue_76, who is the painter of that awesome U-boat Battleship painting you got there? It is truly beautiful.