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zinni1980
07-10-2006, 12:41 AM
How do you become reconised as an online ACE?
Browsing the the forum i see the word ACE mentioned frequently and i would love to get the oppertunity to fly against some of the ACES, im not bothered about winning because im certanly no ACE. I just want to see how good an online ACE is compared to a normal online pilot.
Also what rooms in Hyperlobby am i likely to find good pilots so i can record and learn from them.
Looking through old post the names that people mension like Zen etc never seem to be online anymore.

~S~ Zinni

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 12:41 AM
How do you become reconised as an online ACE?
Browsing the the forum i see the word ACE mentioned frequently and i would love to get the oppertunity to fly against some of the ACES, im not bothered about winning because im certanly no ACE. I just want to see how good an online ACE is compared to a normal online pilot.
Also what rooms in Hyperlobby am i likely to find good pilots so i can record and learn from them.
Looking through old post the names that people mension like Zen etc never seem to be online anymore.

~S~ Zinni

JtD
07-10-2006, 12:56 AM
Hmm, I think this board might not be the right place to look for aces. Around here, you will only find "would be" aces. You know, all the folks who say "I would be an ace if Oleg hadn't screwed up my plane of choice".

Most servers have stats pages, you may check these to find pilots that do well on that server.

Anyway, most likely the aces will find you before you find them. Keep checking 6. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Von_Rat
07-10-2006, 01:17 AM
try warclouds, alot of aces play on both sides there. be prepared to bail alot.

if the same guys shoots you down constantly, but you can never get him, chances are good he's ace.

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 01:28 AM
Thanks

Never flown on Warclouds so ill give it a try.
I love the spit and the pony so hopefully ill give the 190 jocks a hard time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Just had a look at the stats and didnt realise how much info the stats show and most of the top players seem to have a high kill ratio.

~S~ zinni

Ironman69
07-10-2006, 02:09 AM
I'll fight you Zinni1980. Look me up over at Hyperlobby and I'll show you what kind of manuevers a virtual ACE will pull off :-)

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 02:21 AM
Ill do that ironman thanks for the offer and i hope you dont mind if i record it for reference http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Ironman69
07-10-2006, 02:23 AM
come on! i'm on Hyperlobby right now! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 02:29 AM
Im in work at the moment so no can do untill i get home.
The only way to improve is to play against better pilots so im not worried and im not embarresed if i get my *** kicked.
All i want to do is learn and improve so one day i may be classed as an ACE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ps i realy want to fly the FW190 but it feels like a brick to fly.

CMHQ_Rikimaru
07-10-2006, 02:51 AM
because its flys like a brick herehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You wanna meet true aces? Dont go to any dogfight server, choose virtual wars, there u will find not even single aces, but squadrons of cooperating aceshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
You know, its hard to call urself ace, u never know when u are ace, everyone are falling down, no matter how ace u are, but after some time u will always know if u will win some dogfight, or u wont. U also will always know where ur enemy is, what maneuver u have to shoot him down, or if u cannot manneuver with him and have to run. With tiime u will know all machines and u will know how to fight with them, someone who is turning in his La7 with I153 isnt ace, be surehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Ace is just some lvl of ur skills, when u know when u can stay and fight, and when u have to run. And believe me, there is a lot of ppl like thathttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Pirschjaeger
07-10-2006, 02:52 AM
Zinni,

you might wanna try finding someone (an ace looking for a wingman) who lives in a timezone close to yours. Then practice online with him and get him to record tracks and send them to you. It's a totally different view from yours and you can easily see all your mistakes through his gunsight.

I used to be an "ace" but haven't flown in so long that I've been demoted to refuelling planes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 02:55 AM
Pirschjaeger once you have it you never loose it and refulling planes is very bloody hard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Pirschjaeger
07-10-2006, 02:57 AM
ha ha ha your telling me! Try refuelling without a patch that allows you to refuel.

OOOOLLLLEEEEGGGG!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

WOLFMondo
07-10-2006, 03:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zinni1980:
Im in work at the moment so no can do untill i get home.
The only way to improve is to play against better pilots so im not worried and im not embarresed if i get my *** kicked.
All i want to do is learn and improve so one day i may be classed as an ACE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ps i realy want to fly the FW190 but it feels like a brick to fly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Speak to a guy called Fish6891 on Hyperlobby. He's one of the best 190 virtual pilots on HL.

Best way to learn is to fly with someone who's good and prepared to pass on what they know.

BTW the 190's aren't bricks once you learn its quirks. There fun planes to fly and the 190 Dora is the best figher in this sim.

CMHQ_Rikimaru
07-10-2006, 03:36 AM
yeah, it isnt brick, bricks dive better hahaha

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 03:38 AM
I flown against a guy called raven and another guy called karlwb a while back and they seriously kicked my butt and a few other guys that was on my team plus they were trying to tell me what i was doing wrong but i felt they were just teasing me. I was in a spit and they were in a FW190. It was in a DEY squad server if my memory is correct and i just cant get the FW190 to fly anything like the way they flew it and i mean anything like so i didnt go back in that server.

maybe in the right hands it isnt a brick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

CMHQ_Rikimaru
07-10-2006, 04:04 AM
In right hands its brick, in not right hands its not even flying as good as brickhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JtD
07-10-2006, 05:00 AM
Just select a server that suits your likings. There are very good players on almost all servers. No need to look for specific servers or players, really.

rnzoli
07-10-2006, 05:05 AM
Look for FW190 aces in this thread: Focke-Wulf Tactics
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/966...661024732#9661024732 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9661024732/r/9661024732#9661024732)

thread started long time ago, but this is an evergreen subject, refreshed a few times since then

by the way, the saying is right, combat engagements are not really won by the winner, but rather lost by a mistake from the loser. Some of the good people I fought agains have an incredible amount of experience, they know exactly what will happen in the next few seconds, they patiently avoid doing mistakes, but they almost instanly exploit a mistake by their opponent

fighting against them is a good boost for more learning and more practice, but when 2 aces meet, it can be quite a boring matchup, both of them trying to avoid engagement until establishing an advantage over the other

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 05:16 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rnzoli:
Look for FW190 aces in this thread: Focke-Wulf Tactics
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/966...661024732#9661024732 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9661024732/r/9661024732#9661024732)

Thanks rnzoli ill have a good read and print it off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zinni1980
07-10-2006, 05:32 AM
i was 6k in my spitHF and one of the DEY guys was climbing for me in a dora i had about 2k advantage on him dived on him a few times and missed before i new it he took my wing off!!!! his advice to me was "why did you not extend and climb after you tried to shoot me youve lost all your E now" but a dora would kick my *** at 6k? was he right in what he told me or was he takeing the p**s and how is it possable for a climbing dora to shoot me when i had the E advantage.

DEY_RAVEN_UK
07-10-2006, 05:45 AM
S&gt; Zinni

Im sure you probably misjudged the "E" that the Dora had even though he was climbing.
For instance if im being stalked by a higher opponent i tend to nose down very slightley and fly away from him in a slow right turn which means you can easily check your 6 so when he does get within firing distance i already have very good "E" and go in to a right barrell roll with rudder with out changing direction so there for when he overshoots the chances are you are then on his 6. (hope that makes sense).In other words SA and E are everything.

regards raven

karost
07-10-2006, 06:54 AM
you have 2k advantage but you missed after "drived on him" , at same time he waiting you to jump on him and made you over shoot and have chance ( a short period of time) to get close to you and finish his job.

the point is "he/they not missed" when he have a chance http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

btw, DEY guys all are damn good and clever team-play pilot ... LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SA,E-management are a major concern but with out a luck of deflection shoot skill , job is very difficult.

S!

MEGILE
07-10-2006, 07:01 AM
Hook up with Fish, he will give you his slider macro. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Brain32
07-10-2006, 10:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> i was 6k in my spitHF </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do not learn on a Spitfire, you will learn nothing, get a plane that needs serious dedication to E-state(P47,FW190,P51,Tempest etc.)

justflyin
07-10-2006, 10:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kuna_:
I personally have seen t0ns of good players. All the people who are playing the sim for a long time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That pretty much sums it up. Knowledge is power in this series, always has been. There have always been inside tips and secret ways to use the features in the game in very unrealistic manners. It used to be one of the reasons why people joined squads back in the day when I started flying online. To get the tips straight from the pros and flatten the learning curve. ;^)

Some stuff has been patched out over time, some remains to this day. Most of the true Aces will share those tips and tactics like joystick profiles, mapping flaps, trims and prop pitch to a rotary, mapping X, Y, Z axis to rotaries, constant AUTO/MANUAL switching of prop pitch in LW birds (now fixed)...and the list goes on and on.

I've spent hours online with people in 1 vs 1, showing new people or even good veterans exactly how to get the most out of this sim online. I've beaten some big names and have been beaten by some big names.

There are many, many great pilots and a very top echelon of pilots that ALL know are great. I won't stroke any egos by mentioning names, but suffice to say, every server that has daily regulars know who they fear and who they can beat. They know when they are being hunted by an Ace or a noob. They know when to turn, when to climb and when to run like h*e*l*l!

There are some truly great online flyers out there and some fun, HONEST squads. I suggest joining a server that has comms and get to know some people. You'll eventually find a group that you best fit in with and the rest, as they say, shall be history.

Most of all, remember to have fun. It's why we play. ~S~

P.S. Don't listen to Brain32. He's a Spit-hater. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif I think he might be German and just wants his LW rides to be more accurate in this game. Nothing wrong with that. ;^)

J/K Brain. However, I sure wish you'd post some proofs for everytime you post how the Spitfire is so haxxored. ;^) Not here of course, maybe in Oleg's RR.

Lucius_Esox
07-10-2006, 11:18 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif


I thought Brain flew Red on WC?

justflyin
07-10-2006, 11:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lucius_Esox:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif


I thought Brain flew Red on WC? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He might, I just always read from him about "FW isn't this" and "FW isn't that". I figured he was just a LW pilot in disguise, like Hristo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

hehehehehe

carguy_
07-10-2006, 11:55 AM
I`m a virtual ace.You can meet me and many more aces in online wars where the best fly.

HayateAce
07-10-2006, 12:14 PM
As you already know, I am an ace.

HayateAce.

BaronUnderpants
07-10-2006, 01:52 PM
To start with i would go into a server with open pit, like AFJ or 334:th.

The settings there allowes u to wiew both your own team mates and the opposing team when they battle it out against eachother. There u can see for yourselfe how both the "aces" and the "normals" handle differant situations.

And ingnore the comming dabate on Full Real vs Wonder Woman, it will only distract u from your orginal question. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Have fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

justflyin
07-10-2006, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:
And ingnore the comming dabate on Full Real vs Wonder Woman, it will only distract u from your orginal question. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Have fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I fly all types of servers. When I fly with no pit, I also fly naked. Scares the bejeesus out the wife and kids, but meh, what are ya gonna do.

When in FR, I have a bomber jacket on, helmet, goggles and I put my oxygen mask on when the little guy in the pit should at the right altitude.

If in a newer PF plane, everytime I open the pit, I have a fan blowing into my face to simulate the airflow, as I stick my head out of the pit like a dog with my tongue hanging out.

hehehehe

Ah, difficulty switches. If Oleg didn't want as many people to have as much fun as they wanted, they wouldn't be there. :^D

Brain32
07-10-2006, 04:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> P.S. Don't listen to Brain32. He's a Spit-hater. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif I think he might be German and just wants his LW rides to be more accurate in this game. Nothing wrong with that. ;^) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yup don't listen to me, always fly Spitfire only, those are my favourites, especially when they try to fly other planes for a mission or two http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
No I am not a German, try again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif And also I am not a Spit-hater, I mean I don't hate real Spits http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

danjama
07-10-2006, 04:45 PM
I'm an Ace, but i recommend Fish6891, he teaches well, and taught me much.

MLudner
07-10-2006, 05:54 PM
Fly on 334th Dedicated. Lots of lethal aces fly there like Rocketship, Marseille, Marcphil, Seahawk, SOB __ (Most any of them, but Hans, Looper and Cptace pop into my head right off), Donmuang guy, and many others not occuring to me at the moment.

It's a virtual butcher's row in there at times.

Try this: Fly full pit in there like I do. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Von_Rat
07-10-2006, 11:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zinni1980:
I flown against a guy called raven and another guy called karlwb a while back and they seriously kicked my butt and a few other guys that was on my team plus they were trying to tell me what i was doing wrong but i felt they were just teasing me. I was in a spit and they were in a FW190. It was in a DEY squad server if my memory is correct and i just cant get the FW190 to fly anything like the way they flew it and i mean anything like so i didnt go back in that server.

maybe in the right hands it isnt a brick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


the most important rule of flying fw's is to fly fast at all times, if you drop down much below 400kph at any time, even climbing, YOUR GOING TO SLOW.

Mr_CobraStyle
07-11-2006, 04:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I just want to see how good an online ACE is compared to a normal online pilot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I flown against a guy called raven and another guy called karlwb a while back and they seriously kicked my butt and a few other guys that was on my team plus they were trying to tell me what i was doing wrong but i felt they were just teasing me. I was in a spit and they were in a FW190. It was in a DEY squad server if my memory is correct and i just cant get the FW190 to fly anything like the way they flew it and i mean anything like so i didnt go back in that server.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">maybe in the right hands it isnt a brick Hammer </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sounds like you got what you asked for... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

justflyin
07-11-2006, 08:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zinni1980:
They are noy ACE's ive never heard of them. Ace's are always mensioned in the forum http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

etc Rall Dryer Zen to name a few </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just FYI, the mentioned ones are usually mentioned by their own postings or by their buddies, lol. And one other small FYI, Tx-Zen is far from the top in skills of this game. I'm just sayin'.

You must have gotten that from one of the fountains of mis-information that exist here.

Small word of caution about the internet. Believe half of what you hear and nothing of what you see without proofs. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

justflyin
07-11-2006, 08:30 AM
zinni, zinni, zinni...whose name are you trying to see typed in this thread as an ace? There is an underlying reason for this thread, so spill the beans for us. :^D

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brain32:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> P.S. Don't listen to Brain32. He's a Spit-hater. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif I think he might be German and just wants his LW rides to be more accurate in this game. Nothing wrong with that. ;^) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yup don't listen to me, always fly Spitfire only, those are my favourites, especially when they try to fly other planes for a mission or two http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
No I am not a German, try again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif And also I am not a Spit-hater, I mean I don't hate real Spits http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hehe, gotcha. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I know where you are coming from and I agree with certain parts. I figured you just HAD to be German because your "semi-rants" always talked of LW planes. :^)

However, the great ones fly all planes well and due to their impeccable situational awareness, fly the plane they are in, to it's strengths and avoid it's weaknesses, at all times.

I don't try to fly a FW like a Spitfire, but strangely enough a Spitfire can be flown like a Spitfire OR a FW. Just can't match dive speeds and pull-out, but 740-760km/h in a Spitfire is more than enough dive speed for me. lol

I just never understand why anyone would need to run and run and run. A mere 1500m or so altitude advantage is really all that is needed at speed, to stay above and B and Z until they are dead. No, really. :^)

HayateAce
07-11-2006, 10:28 AM
AFJ_Goodkn1ght pwns joo all.

Also, to call anyone who "flies" on no-cockpit server an ace, is just plane stupid.

Also, once I gain the 6 of these so-called 190 "aces" in my P38J, it's just plain terrorizing fun.

http://www.kazoku.org/xp-38n/photos/p38-dark.jpg

On 8 Feb. James Morris of 20FG downed 3 Fw190s in a single combat, involving tight turns (in which the P-38's maneuvering flap setting [8 degrees extension] was used) and an Me-109 as returning home, the firstquadruple kill for an 8AF fighter. All kills were made with dead astern shots. Morris missed all his deflection shots.

Interestingly, two of the FWs were first encountered head-on and Morris was able to reverse and maneuver onto their tails while they tried with all their might to get on his--and failed. Three days later he downed an Me-109, making him the first P-38 ace flying out of England. (He would score a total of 8 victories before being shot down on 7 July, the highest score of any UK-based P-38 pilot.)

justflyin
07-11-2006, 10:46 AM
GK disappeared for a reason. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

The one thing I would love to see about his "acedom" is him doing it in a LAN tournament while I was looking into his eyes at the same time. Damn, I wish I had NTRKs back then when we fought.

He had skill, no doubt, but when pressed with a pilot of equal skill, that's when the fun started. There were many pauses, several "slingshot" maneuvers and warping. And they all started IMMEDIATELY after I got the first kill on him right out of the gate. :^)

He knows the game through and through and IMAO, is damned good. Unfortunately, I'm cursed with the burden of knowing the reality of situations. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

HayateAce, I think it's time we made an NTRK together. Do you prefer full switch or will Speed Bar ON be OK? PM me when you will be n HL sometime. Just for grins, of course.

We can also chat about the upcoming NFL season and Da Boyz coming "Return to Glory". ;^)

JtD
07-11-2006, 11:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Also, to call anyone who "flies" on no-cockpit server an ace, is just plane stupid. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just as much as calling anyone else who is good at playing this game an ace.

Scen
07-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Truth be told... There are quite a few dead aces on these forums.

Yeah lots of guys can get kills and be very good at this game but if they died even once which I think we all have then how do you qualify them as Ace? They where dead virtually.

My point is we call take ridiculous risks which wouldn't happen in real life per say and the trick is getting out of it alive isn't it.

Heck all of us have had great runs with 3-4 kills then somewhere out of the blue your dead.

If you want to use Streaks as a measure of Ace Skill there are plenty of guy who can do 20-30+ streaks.

Scendore
AKA Capt Stubing

BaronUnderpants
07-11-2006, 11:45 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by HayateAce:
AFJ_Goodkn1ght pwns joo all.

Also, to call anyone who "flies" on no-cockpit server an ace, is just plane stupid.

Also, once I gain the 6 of these so-called 190 "aces" in my P38J, it's just plain terrorizing fun.QUOTE]


Is there actuall pilots flying the P-38 online?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I thought the P-38 was there as targetdrones or maby eyecandy?

justflyin
07-11-2006, 11:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scen:
Truth be told... There are quite a few dead aces on these forums.

Yeah lots of guys can get kills and be very good at this game but if they died even once which I think we all have then how do you qualify them as Ace? They where dead virtually.

My point is we call take ridiculous risks which wouldn't happen in real life per say and the trick is getting out of it alive isn't it.

Heck all of us have had great runs with 3-4 kills then somewhere out of the blue your dead.

If you want to use Streaks as a measure of Ace Skill there are plenty of guy who can do 20-30+ streaks.

Scendore
AKA Capt Stubing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Kill/death ratio for hte win!!!11!!!111!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JtD:
Just as much as calling anyone else who is good at playing this game an ace. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree. I'm not sure anyone ever means disrespect to the true aces of WWII, so we should call them "Virtual Aces" with a footnote about flying a computer-generated simulator to gain their "Virtual Ace" status. lol

money_money
07-11-2006, 12:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justflyin:

mapping X, Y, Z axis to rotaries, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What does this do?

justflyin
07-11-2006, 12:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by money_money:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justflyin:

mapping X, Y, Z axis to rotaries, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What does this do? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I haven't tried it in awhile, but you could get instant travel of axis from one extreme to the other, by just rolling the rotary, in a second or two. It helped immensely for instant turning ability, kind of like having all joystick sliders set at all 100s...but since torque has been introduced and other FM changes, it doesn't seem to have the same effect as it used to.

It was also used for that "porpoising" effect you see where you get on a planes' six and they start rolling the rotaries of the X, Y axis back and forth fast to wobble, go upside-down sideways and slide all over trying to throw your aim off.

Not a cheat, persay, but an exploit IMNSHO.

Also, back in the day of "instant extremes" trim, all planes other than a few, had aileron trim, too. Man, the moves that could be pulled off using a combination of aileron/elevator trim was stupifying!!! lol

Back then (with instant extreme trim), the P-47 wouldn't have had a roll problem. Just assign aileron trim to a rotary and she'd roll so fast, you would be able to make two revolutions in the space of the one you can now. hehehe

karost
07-11-2006, 12:37 PM
"K/D" is no meaning for some pilot , he/they just disconnect or press refly before a plane crash.

Yes, I use to do like that before just two time and l leaned that, this is a solution for a kid-cheating and though nobody see this kind of action ... LOL

every time I get in a fubar I/we open record tracking for review and share to other friends, and yes I/we know who like to do a kid-cheating from track file. and that is a reson why I(or other friends) like to config gunfire with 2xMK108 in FW190A9... LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

well but I not mind that coz, there still have so many good players who have gentlemen spirit and playing with respect-style. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


S!

JtD
07-11-2006, 12:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:

Is there actuall pilots flying the P-38 online??

I thought the P-38 was there as targetdrones or maby eyecandy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You need to learn more about the P-38. Great plane, even though the L is a bit slow against contemporaries.

BaronUnderpants
07-11-2006, 01:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JtD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:

Is there actuall pilots flying the P-38 online??

I thought the P-38 was there as targetdrones or maby eyecandy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You need to learn more about the P-38. Great plane, even though the L is a bit slow against contemporaries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know all about turning with divebrakes and what u can do with indiviual engine control and so on...and no one uses it online wich makes the P-38 a sitting duck in game. Rolls to slow and way to big a target.

Dont even try to pretend u can go up against a D9 and have a pryer of hope of making it out in one peice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

IRL it may have been a differant matter, i wouldnt know, but in game... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

JtD
07-11-2006, 01:37 PM
In the current stats on my fav server...edited:

The P-38J is 16th most popular ac on the server...out of 200, mind you.

Less frequently flown are the P-38L, ranked 73 and the L-late in 137.

For comparism: Spit IX 25lbs boost: rank 172.

K/D of P-38: 0.35
K/D of Spit 25lb: 0.22

You fly on the wrong servers, dude. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BaronUnderpants
07-11-2006, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JtD:
In the current stats on my fav server...edited:

The P-38J is 16th most popular ac on the server...out of 200, mind you.

Less frequently flown are the P-38L, ranked 73 and the L-late in 137.

For comparism: Spit IX 25lbs boost: rank 172.

K/D of P-38: 0.35
K/D of Spit 25lb: 0.22

You fly on the wrong servers, dude. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Hehe....popularity is one thing, capability is completly differant . Yes, "lots" of people fly it on "your" server, hence it gets high k/d.

Not saying its anything wrong with P-38, there isnt..just saying: D9 vs P-38 = no brainer. Anyone saying he takes out 6 "ace" flown Fw`s in his P-38 is delutional...or just flaming. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Scen
07-11-2006, 04:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JtD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:

Is there actuall pilots flying the P-38 online??

I thought the P-38 was there as targetdrones or maby eyecandy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You need to learn more about the P-38. Great plane, even though the L is a bit slow against contemporaries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually the P38 is a very underated plane as a whole. The P38 we have in IL2 comes nothing close to the real thing and it suffers greatly with it's modeled compression which shouldn't be an issue below 10K

But that's another thread.

Scen
07-11-2006, 04:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JtD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:

Is there actuall pilots flying the P-38 online??

I thought the P-38 was there as targetdrones or maby eyecandy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You need to learn more about the P-38. Great plane, even though the L is a bit slow against contemporaries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know all about turning with divebrakes and what u can do with indiviual engine control and so on...and no one uses it online wich makes the P-38 a sitting duck in game. Rolls to slow and way to big a target.

Dont even try to pretend u can go up against a D9 and have a pryer of hope of making it out in one peice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

IRL it may have been a differant matter, i wouldnt know, but in game... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Partly true... Some guys have gotten good with the 38 and I would say you're generally right against the ingame D9 its a really rugged fight.

JtD
07-12-2006, 08:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:

D9 vs P-38 = no brainer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The earliest scenario you have to expect D-9's with in game performance in would be a Battle of the Bulge scenario. There weren't many 38's around anymore. Compare to a more contemporary planes like a G-6late or 190 A-6. Or, even better, compare to an A6M5b.

HayateAce
07-12-2006, 10:49 AM
Correct, do not compare the P38J vs the D9. But in the historical matchups vs earlier mk 190s, the J will win by a safe margin if properly flown. The best fight I've had in recent times was in a J vs a Russian pilot in an A6 I believe. Completely vertical fight, with .50cal hits to his wings on several passes. Eventually he could no longer pull out of the dives. If both sticks are skilled, it is a fun fight. As you begin to out turn the 190 and you think you've got him, a good werger pilot snap rolls and the whole thing starts over again. 190 riders are shocked as hell when they tangle with a FTD pilot that knows his stuff.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The J vs A6Ms is a slaughter, as it should be. Vs the G2, a well-flown P38J can also triumph due to speed and zoom.

Justflyin, not sure what you know about GK but I suspected something odd from the first few times I dogged him. It was like he was flying with a wire-frame cheat or something. "Incredible" under the nose deflection shots and such. Go into a scissors and he'd pretty much hit you on each pass. And yes, once on his 6 it was funny to watch the warpin' begin. Care to tell us what he was up to?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Re: making and NTRK on HL, I haven't been flying online much since the Pe2 addon split and the heightened rumours about online hacking. I may be done with the series for awhile and perhaps give Bob the Sow a spin whenever it comes out.

Ready for daBoyz to come back.

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/phf-aaea039.jpg

MEGILE
07-12-2006, 11:01 AM
HayateAce being reasonable... whatever next. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Agree 100% though, P-38s vs. FW-190 is a good fight... I'd bet on the Dora over the L however.

F6_Ace
07-12-2006, 11:09 AM
Build the Heath Robinson pat. pending F6 Acemaker contraption below. You don't need to understand tactics, teamwork, your aircraft, the enemy aircraft, e-states or anything.

Just press F6 all the time and you will be an ace in no time

fighter_966
07-12-2006, 11:12 AM
Today I celebrate my 3000 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif kill From orginal Il-2
to Pacific fighters 4.04m Been playin for five years . Been killed 60 times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif Ground targets 500 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Difficulty settings usually full real execpt
in QMB And in Lan partys we played depending on
players wishes but.....I still dont consider me as an ace http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

fighter_966
07-12-2006, 11:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fighter_966:
Today I celebrate my 3000 off line http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif kill From orginal Il-2
to Pacific fighters 4.04m Been playin for five years . Been killed 60 times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif Ground targets 500 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Difficulty settings usually full real execpt
in QMB And in Lan partys we played depending on
players wishes but.....I still dont consider me as an ace http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

justflyin
07-12-2006, 12:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
Care to tell us what he was up to? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good things come to those who wait. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I'm currently preparing a movie of compiled NTRKs, a complete demonstration package of cheat programs and their use online, and I will explain EXACTLY what is being done to cheat online.

Once released, people will be able to see exactly what is happening in the NTRKs and with the exact demos of speed hacking and use of third party screenshot programs, will be able to know when they've been beaten and when they've been cheated. The proof shall be irrefutable.

I'm also putting together a small indicator program, kind of like a "Cheating Graph", where after answering questions about the engagement, one can determine the % possibility of cheating. The NTRKs will be back-up. ;^)

For me, it isn't about winning or losing. I just want to fly the very best, honest pilots that I can find and it has always been my idiom to root out cheaters and expose them for the good of the game and community. I am not paranoid and my skills and technical expertise at diagnosing situations and learning from them is going to be my contribution to this fine sim.

The cheaters all try to downplay the reality of the situation and also to discredit me. however, in the end, it won't be my word against theirs. It will be for the community to decide from the proof that shall be presented, along with exact demos of what is happening.

If, for nothing else, as long as Hosts are aware of what they need to do to protect themselves and also how to factually determine cheating, not just witch-hunting, then I will have done my job as well as I did for Jane's WWII Fighters. Along with a few other fine gentlemen who were also very instrumental in creating a cheat-free lobby for that game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Ready for Da Boyz to come back.

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/phf-aaea039.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh baby....I just pray for healthy players as our Defense is going to be very good and our off-season acquisitions are going to make our Offense very much better.

Funny, how ya can hate a player until he is on your team and then you want him to be the same, cocky, high-performing bastage as he always has been, lol!!! ;^)

LStarosta
07-12-2006, 12:13 PM
I get around. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

justflyin
07-12-2006, 12:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fighter_966:
Today I celebrate my 3000 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif kill From orginal Il-2 to Pacific fighters 4.04m Been playin for five years . Been killed 60 times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You quoted yourself in the very next post to get the cherry, too?!?! Ay carumba, now that's waaaaay more lame than I ever want to be. lmao

I'd be more interested in how many hours of playing time that amounts to. 3,000 kills in 5 years? Oh my...that's seems to be an awful lot of flying and not enough fighting for my tastes. ;^)

HayateAce
07-12-2006, 02:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justflyin:
Funny, how ya can hate a player until he is on your team and then you want him to be the same, cocky, high-performing bastage as he always has been, lol!!! ;^) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would have hired a hit man for Michael Irvin had he been a 49er.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Looking forward to your NTRKs and subsequent witch burning.

BaronUnderpants
07-12-2006, 02:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justflyin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
Care to tell us what he was up to? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good things come to those who wait. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I'm currently preparing a movie of compiled NTRKs, a complete demonstration package of cheat programs and their use online, and I will explain EXACTLY what is being done to cheat online.

Once released, people will be able to see exactly what is happening in the NTRKs and with the exact demos of speed hacking and use of third party screenshot programs, will be able to know when they've been beaten and when they've been cheated. The proof shall be irrefutable.

I'm also putting together a small indicator program, kind of like a "Cheating Graph", where after answering questions about the engagement, one can determine the % possibility of cheating. The NTRKs will be back-up. ;^)

For me, it isn't about winning or losing. I just want to fly the very best, honest pilots that I can find and it has always been my idiom to root out cheaters and expose them for the good of the game and community. I am not paranoid and my skills and technical expertise at diagnosing situations and learning from them is going to be my contribution to this fine sim.

The cheaters all try to downplay the reality of the situation and also to discredit me. however, in the end, it won't be my word against theirs. It will be for the community to decide from the proof that shall be presented, along with exact demos of what is happening.

If, for nothing else, as long as Hosts are aware of what they need to do to protect themselves and also how to factually determine cheating, not just witch-hunting, then I will have done my job as well as I did for Jane's WWII Fighters. Along with a few other fine gentlemen who were also very instrumental in creating a cheat-free lobby for that game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Ready for Da Boyz to come back.

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/phf-aaea039.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh baby....I just pray for healthy players as our Defense is going to be very good and our off-season acquisitions are going to make our Offense very much better.

Funny, how ya can hate a player until he is on your team and then you want him to be the same, cocky, high-performing bastage as he always has been, lol!!! ;^) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will be intresting to see, personally i dont like cheating, never have cheaten, never will. If i ever had to cheat to feel good about a game...i would have stoped playing all togheter.

Completly pointless in my book, defeats the whole purpose intirely. ( To improve aginst yourselfe and other players ).

justflyin
07-12-2006, 02:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justflyin:
Funny, how ya can hate a player until he is on your team and then you want him to be the same, cocky, high-performing bastage as he always has been, lol!!! ;^) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would have hired a hit man for Michael Irvin had he been a 49er.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Looking forward to your NTRKs and subsequent witch burning. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! Even though he had his off-field issues, those are not supposed to be included in HOF decisions. Mike will make it in someday.

And not to worry, I'll only let the community burn the bad witches, not the good ones. That's the beauty of the proof that will be provided, it will allow the community to come to their own conclusions.

I am, but the skilled and astute messenger. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

MLudner
07-12-2006, 06:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kuna_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
Fly on 334th Dedicated. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I flew there long time ago. And I rarely had more fun with this game like on that server.

Flew Bf-109G6AS almost exclusively in combination with TA-152H. I had almost constant 10-15:1 kill death ratio without much effort. Vs. LA-7s and all those uber dogfighters. I always said that the Bf-109G is 2 uber http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.
Also I seem to remember one guy that gave me run for the money... I'll remember his name with time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif. I flew Bf-109G6AS and he was in P-63. I eventually outmanouvered him and got a clean fire solution on his 6 with MK108. But to this day I dunno how in the world he performed that kind of negative G manoeuver... simple brilliant. He also deccelerated heavily in the process. I lost him from the sight... and next thing I know he was on my 6 we both had totally exhausted machines by that time and hugging the deck so he basically had a n00b-chance shot on me. I had to turn but he slowly gained due to a little better state of his machine and I thought "in the ensuing half turn he will got me and there's nothing I can do", but just in that moment another Bf-109 appeared and shot him down. After that he was a real display of an angry man http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I don't blame him I even felt sorry because he didn't deservedly shot me down. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Really fun server with many experten and many other players. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunate that you don't still fly there. Ran into Slickstick there Sunday (Though I doubt I ever will again...I kept telling you to chill, Dude!). We almost had a one-on-one going until some yahoo in a La-5 climbed into it, soon followed by another yahoo in a Ki-84 (I was over their base at 3,000 meters) at which point I realized I was in serious trouble. In the end Slick nailed me while I was evading another pass by the La. That was when I found out the Spit I had been engaging initially was Slick.

Best K/D ratio I have yet had was 2:1. What I have to learn is to stay out of low altitude furballs; I need to improve my shooting in game (IRL I am already a good shot with real guns, and in CFS 2 I was good); and to not make the same maneuvers in P-39D's that I make in Spits and 109's!! (Though, I am actually getting pretty good of getting out of flat spins http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif)

I know just how the pilot you were fighting felt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif Saturday while flying Red I was in a P-39D2 at about 10,000 ft when I spotted a Blue La-5 slightly higher. Naturally, I went right after him. However, I soon completely out-maneuvered the Lavochkin and got on his tail and would not be separated. I hit him a few times, leaving him trailing white smoke, but evidently I did not connect with my 37mm. I chased him through turn after turn, "S"ing left, then right, then up then all the way down to the deck. The whole time thinking: "My God! I can't beleive I'm out-flying a La-5 in an early mark Aircobra!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Then: "BOOM!!!!!!"
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
A blacked-out friendly pilot trying to attack MY La flew through me.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I think I'll be on tonight....flying target drone for one color or the other. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

SlickStick
07-12-2006, 07:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
Ran into Slickstick there Sunday (Though I doubt I ever will again...I kept telling you to chill, Dude!). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just came from there actually. I had a nice time. My history with the 334th goes back a bit to Freebird and assisting with the server back then. Maybe that means nothing, maybe it does, as to them cutting me a little slack. I admittedly can be a tad over-zealous in my efforts, but gladly toned it down when asked. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'd hate to disrupt anyone's fun, but calling them as I sees them is my lot in life. I shall refrain from using the chat while in there, unless needed.

BTW, something has always bugged me. And you being the big Cream fan....how EXACTLY does a bearded rainbow walk?!? I'm just curious as I want to compare and see if I've ever seen a girl walk like a bearded rainbow or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Also, if you ever want to have some fun, just drop me a PM, we'll put up a fun server for you and I, so that we might not be disturbed again. I always enjoy a great fight. We can use same setup as the 334th server. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

GR142-Pipper
07-13-2006, 01:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
Correct, do not compare the P38J vs the D9. But in the historical matchups vs earlier mk 190s, the J will win by a safe margin if properly flown. The best fight I've had in recent times was in a J vs a Russian pilot in an A6 I believe. Completely vertical fight, with .50cal hits to his wings on several passes. Eventually he could no longer pull out of the dives. If both sticks are skilled, it is a fun fight. As you begin to out turn the 190 and you think you've got him, a good werger pilot snap rolls and the whole thing starts over again. 190 riders are shocked as hell when they tangle with a FTD pilot that knows his stuff.

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The J vs A6Ms is a slaughter, as it should be. Vs the G2, a well-flown P38J can also triumph due to speed and zoom.

Justflyin, not sure what you know about GK but I suspected something odd from the first few times I dogged him. It was like he was flying with a wire-frame cheat or something. "Incredible" under the nose deflection shots and such. Go into a scissors and he'd pretty much hit you on each pass. And yes, once on his 6 it was funny to watch the warpin' begin. Care to tell us what he was up to?

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Re: making and NTRK on HL, I haven't been flying online much since the Pe2 addon split and the heightened rumours about online hacking. I may be done with the series for awhile and perhaps give Bob the Sow a spin whenever it comes out.

Ready for daBoyz to come back.

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/phf-aaea039.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Contact me at gr142pipper@yahoo.com when you have a sec. Include your old cox email address somewhere in the text so I'll know it's you.

Pipper

JamesBlonde888
07-13-2006, 02:01 AM
Somebody called me an ace once.

What is with that picture with the guys in tight pants pipper. Enough to put a chap off his smoked kippers it is.

MLudner
07-13-2006, 11:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
Ran into Slickstick there Sunday (Though I doubt I ever will again...I kept telling you to chill, Dude!). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just came from there actually. I had a nice time. My history with the 334th goes back a bit to Freebird and assisting with the server back then. Maybe that means nothing, maybe it does, as to them cutting me a little slack. I admittedly can be a tad over-zealous in my efforts, but gladly toned it down when asked. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'd hate to disrupt anyone's fun, but calling them as I sees them is my lot in life. I shall refrain from using the chat while in there, unless needed.

BTW, something has always bugged me. And you being the big Cream fan....how EXACTLY does a bearded rainbow walk?!? I'm just curious as I want to compare and see if I've ever seen a girl walk like a bearded rainbow or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Also, if you ever want to have some fun, just drop me a PM, we'll put up a fun server for you and I, so that we might not be disturbed again. I always enjoy a great fight. We can use same setup as the 334th server. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Slick, you need to go here:

http://www.334theaglesquadron.com/portal/

Go to the forums and find the thread "Inappropriate language in chat"

You need to make your peace with Sacto. Don't be angry, but I'm the one that taught Sacto how to take that screenie of the Private chats you sent him. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I'm looking at them right now ...

MLudner
07-13-2006, 11:04 AM
Just tried to PM you, but it did not work...

justflyin
07-13-2006, 12:14 PM
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SlickStick
07-13-2006, 05:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
Ran into Slickstick there Sunday (Though I doubt I ever will again...I kept telling you to chill, Dude!). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just came from there actually. I had a nice time. My history with the 334th goes back a bit to Freebird and assisting with the server back then. Maybe that means nothing, maybe it does, as to them cutting me a little slack. I admittedly can be a tad over-zealous in my efforts, but gladly toned it down when asked. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'd hate to disrupt anyone's fun, but calling them as I sees them is my lot in life. I shall refrain from using the chat while in there, unless needed.

BTW, something has always bugged me. And you being the big Cream fan....how EXACTLY does a bearded rainbow walk?!? I'm just curious as I want to compare and see if I've ever seen a girl walk like a bearded rainbow or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Also, if you ever want to have some fun, just drop me a PM, we'll put up a fun server for you and I, so that we might not be disturbed again. I always enjoy a great fight. We can use same setup as the 334th server. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Slick, you need to go here:

http://www.334theaglesquadron.com/portal/

Go to the forums and find the thread "Inappropriate language in chat"

You need to make your peace with Sacto. Don't be angry, but I'm the one that taught Sacto how to take that screenie of the Private chats you sent him. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I'm looking at them right now ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd never get mad at you for wisening up a chump, MLudner. As for the forums, I guess one has to register to see them?!?

Meh, I'll just take your word for it, as I had a few beers Sunday and felt like cursing out a known cheater. These things happen.

As for the server, how do I say.....

C'est la vie.

Considering my upcoming movie, I can understand certain 334th wanting me banned as well.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

As I've probably flown there maybe 5-10 times over its entire existence, I won't be missing much. Hundreds of other servers and I already have the NTRKs I need from there.

Thanks for the information anyways though. It is much appreciated. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BTW - give this to Sacto for me...

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MLudner
07-13-2006, 06:23 PM
Actually, it was non-334th players that primarily sought it, EvilMcNasty.

And, Hussongs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, I disagree that Sacto is a cheater. I have flown with and against him and we both shot eachother down. I think you are mistaken.

Well, I was hoping to keep the peace but I don't think it's gonna work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. Maybe I'll bump into you on AFJ or someplace.

SlickStick
07-13-2006, 07:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
Actually, it was non-334th players that primarily sought it, EvilMcNasty.

And, Hussongs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, I disagree that Sacto is a cheater. I have flown with and against him and we both shot eachother down. I think you are mistaken.

Well, I was hoping to keep the peace but I don't think it's gonna work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. Maybe I'll bump into you on AFJ or someplace. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

SOB, fb...what's the difference?!? A cheater still smells as rotten.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Although, they only have bit parts in my movie, it will be me who laughs last. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Maybe you will stop by a server I'm on, it won't matter as to whether you will score against me or not though. Just like that La really didn't matter that you felt you needed to post about. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Also, you don't really think they could actually keep me out of there, though, right?!?!

They can't be that naive. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

However, as I said, with the hundreds of servers to choose from, an 8 sec 8% speed check server with pathetic MAX LAG that encourages cheating and cannot handle more than 30 players, is pretty far down on the list.

Thanks again for the information though. Your effort is much appreciated. Hopefully, the 334th will be flying in Ghost Skies, as I see your "squadron" listed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I still want to know how a bearded rainbow walks though.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

MLudner
07-14-2006, 12:34 PM
That La did matter http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif God! that was frustrating! Quite a feather in the cap to take a La-5 down in a dog fight with a P-39D2. But, I was relating that for Kuna's benefit.

You know, I do not believe the SOB's cheat either; they're just flat-out, plain good. If they are cheating, then the 334th doesn't know it; They did a job on us last night. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Excellent teamwork on their part. SOB Looper downed Seahawk ... twice, and Cptace did the same to me. 334th Kulpritt and Baziel 35th CAG were both on the receiving end as well (But, then, Baz got a little revenge by downing SOB Shen).

The key is to understand that if you see one SOB pilot the odds that he actually alone are negligible. It could be a Pink Team op, which they are known for. In case you don't know what a Pink Team is; it's when one aircraft flies low to draw fire while others fly above and behind waiting for just that. When you go after the lower SOB the others are already on their way. Or, it could be that you just did not see the other one in the area. They have their own Teamspeak, and they use it.

There is no squadron on that server who works so closely together as the SOB. We in the 334th try...

SWLABR stands for "She WAS Like A Bearded Rainbow". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SlickStick
07-14-2006, 01:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
SWLABR stands for "She WAS Like A Bearded Rainbow". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK, so now, besides the obvious LSD trip the song was written about, please describe a bearded rainbow.

MLudner, when you have not the true skill to assess another's skills, you are duped into believing that "this" squad is good or "that" flyer is good. I don't discount their teamwork nor that they may be decent flyers, but they don't even rate on the scale of elite flyers that play this game. They got a good taste of that the other night, lol.

What I discount is when they are constantly setting off the high-ping of the 334th server, with DSL/cable pings, warp for position and when in trouble, the stutters, lags and warps begin.

Much like that JG54/Vamp or whatever his loser call is, with his 54mS ping all night and constantly setting off high-ping!!! That truly makes me LOL!! And is only one indicator of the issue.

I would truly love to show you first-hand on my server, as I beat each SOB or 334th successively, while you watched, and show you that they have neither the skill nor the ballz to fly with honor on a server where they cannot cheat.

Anytime you would like that proven, I'll create three slots. Two for flyers and one for you to watch. I will gladly show you how incorrect your perceptions are about who is and who isn't good at this game without having to cheat to impress the internet, like they do.

I'm always available and will gladly help any squad on HL assess their skill level. I live for the honor flight and win or lose, at least I'll know I wasn't cheated. &lt;S&gt;

MLudner
07-14-2006, 02:56 PM
Lyrics:
"Coming to me in the morning, leaving me at night.
Coming to me in the morning, leaving me alone.
You've got that rainbow feel,
But the rainbow has a beard.

Running to me a-cryin', when he throws you out.
Running to me a-cryin', on your own again.
You've got that pure feel,
Such good responses,
But the picture has a mustache.

You're comin' to me with that soulful look on your face.
Coming lookin' like you've never ever done one wrong thing.

You're comin' to me with that soulful look on your face.
You're comin' lookin' like you've never ever done one wrong thing.

So many fantastic colours, I feel in a wonderland.
Many fantastic colours, makes me feel so good.
You've got that pure feel,
Such good responses,
Got that rainbow feel,
But the rainbow has a beard."

It's about something wrong under the surface.

And, I'm not that much of a Noob. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif For example, I honestly doubt that Sacto has the requisite computer knowledge or skills to cheat considering that I had to explain to him how to take a screen shot via "Print Screen", then where to find it. Then when it did not turn up as grab 0000 in his FB folder, how to paste it into Paint.

The SOB's are not cheating against me, at least. Not long back flying Blue in a Bf-109F4 I was a bit behind 334th Extra330LL when we were bounced by Cptace and another SOB in P-39D2's. I dodged their B&Z, but they caught Extra as they zoomed back up. In the resulting furball it was then 2 to 1. I noted no super speed, nor laging or otherwise. In fact, it was the fact that my 109 was faster than their Aircobras that kept me from getting shot down. When it was over I had a victory over Cptace, despite having been damaged by his wingman. Another 334th pilot bagged the wingman (I had been calling for help on TS and it arrived just as SOB Cptace went down) and I had to RTB and switch to a new 109F4.

Last night Cptace caught me unawares the first time. I was spiraling down in a MC-205 flying full-pit as always looking for Looper who had been reported low over the base after downing Seahawk for the 2nd time when: BOOM! I never saw it coming. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

The 2nd time he had the advantage and I couldn't shake him, but I least I saw him coming in time to drive him nuckin' futs and make him work for it.

You know, lag happens. My 1st run-in with a guy named GAK was ended by lag. He kept teleporting out of my sights (3 times) until the last when I was right on him and about to shred him and he lagged a 4th time. I had not seen where he went and in the 2 or 3 seconds it took me to check around, not see him and realize he must be below and behind he bagged me.

He had not cheated. Earlier that day I had been testing my new graphics card and wanted to see how high I could set the graphics and still get a decent FPS, so I had maxed them out. Worked mostly just fine off-line. I forgot to reset that evening when I went on-line and I did not realize what I had done until after I signed-off in some frustration after the following sortie.

I have long-since realized that I do not suck. I am flying full-pit on a server that allows wonder woman view and that is the reason behind much of the amazing defelection shooting I have been on the receiving end of.

SlickStick
07-14-2006, 04:50 PM
The PF Bible:

1. Lag is NOT maneuvering warp.

2. Lag is NOT beneficial for anyone.

3. Lag does NOT just conveniently happen when in trouble or on the defensive.

4. Lag is NOT the cause of a 54mS ping setting off a message that latency has been exceeded.

5. Lag is NOT packet loss.

As I posted earlier, anytime they can back up their skills on a REAL server, as I do EVERYDAY, then I'd say we'd have the proofs of their innocence. Granted, they'd most likely end up in flames crashing into the ground, but I'd respect them for trying at least.

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If they didn't have anything to fear, they would jump at the chance to prove me wrong. Until that time and until my movie premieres, I guess you'll have to take their word for it.

I know better, thankfully. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Check your PM for a little FYI. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Viper2005_
07-14-2006, 04:56 PM
I hope that this movie lives up to the hype...

SlickStick
07-14-2006, 08:22 PM
It shall be as entertaining as it is informative and educational.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif