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f.ip2
08-29-2007, 10:09 AM
Kipnapping and Theft after WWII on British and Russian Side.
http://www.welt.de/politik/article1144074/Briten_entfue...article_readcomments (http://www.welt.de/politik/article1144074/Briten_entfuehrten_deutsche_Forscher_als_Beute.htm l?page=2#article_readcomments)

Operation Paperclip - US side
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

Made in Germany _ how it started
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article1115047/Das_ist_einfach_Qualitaet.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_Germany

http://www.makingthemodernworld.com/stories/defiant_mod...m/01.ST.03/?scene=10 (http://www.makingthemodernworld.com/stories/defiant_modernism/01.ST.03/?scene=10)

quite interesting to see how france and USA treated human rights different than russians and british government in the aftermatch.

the most interesting aspect is the hunt for goods from the west to secure it so the russians could not get it.

this rather sounds like a much higher political game than just a simple war in which Germany started and the others defended each other.

Xiolablu3
08-29-2007, 10:42 AM
WHat is the kidnapping and theft bit about please? I dont read German.


Hitler/Nazi's were seen to be the biggest evil, but there was certainly no love for Stalin either.

Waldo.Pepper
08-29-2007, 12:18 PM
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Blutarski2004
08-29-2007, 02:02 PM
Several thousand thoroughbred horses were also allegedly spirited out of Germany and Austria in the immediate postwar period at the instigation Gen George Patton and ended up in USA horse-breeding farms.

Xiolablu3
08-29-2007, 07:20 PM
I wouldnt worry too much about HItlers Scientists human rights at the end of the day...they werent too bothered about others human rights particularly Russians or Jews.

Its not really surprising that Britain and Russia didnt feel too hospitable towards these people after they had come up with innovations such as terror weapons and experiemnted on 'untermensch' by freezing them until they died in order to find out how long pilots could survive in the cold.

I'm sure they came to absolutely no harm in the 2 years of British captivity.

http://www.remember.org/educate/medexp.html

http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/article28.html

Its really a very small sentence for some of them for the experiments they commited.

leitmotiv
08-29-2007, 07:39 PM
All I can say is---yawn. Wernher von Braun and his fellow rocket scientists were happy to work for the U.S. (1) because they did not want to be seized by the Soviets, (2) they wanted to send a rocket to the moon and knew only the U.S. had the means to fulfill their dream, and (3) they were afraid of prosecution for war crimes---particularly regarding the use of Dora Concentration Camp prisoners as expendable labor for the manufacture of the A4 rocket in the SS run Nordhausen tunnel.

f.ip2
08-29-2007, 07:47 PM
I assume you do miss the point.

It is not about who did what wrong.

What I mean is you hear very often to protect from the Russians. And it is a unified term.

For me this all looks a little more complex than one country was too dumb to start a war again.

It is the behind the scene thats more interesting.

For example like USA attempts to overthrow their own government at one point and gladly failed. Or a certain US family making business with German war industry.

This looks more like the WWII was just a part of it but not the exclusive element.

leitmotiv
08-29-2007, 08:16 PM
Balderdash. Incoherent, incomprehensible blather.

f.ip2
08-29-2007, 08:23 PM
talking to yourself?