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na85
06-21-2007, 09:56 PM
I've recently come to the conclusion that my energy game needs work.

Josf, I notice you talk a lot about Shaw's technique but I've so far been unable to find his book in stores.

Can anyone tell me if there is an online version available?

Thanks

M_Gunz
06-21-2007, 10:16 PM
Check e-bay, it's a $35 book brand new.

leitmotiv
06-21-2007, 10:31 PM
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?tn=FIGHTE...s=t&an=shaw&y=5&x=31 (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?tn=FIGHTER+TACTICS&sts=t&an=shaw&y=5&x=31)

na85
06-21-2007, 10:57 PM
I hadn't thought of eBay, actually.

I can't order it from amazon, etc bc I don't have a credit card http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

na85
06-21-2007, 10:57 PM
thanks

Persecutor_352
06-21-2007, 11:30 PM
Google the title as a .pdf file ... you'll find it available easily.

tagTaken2
06-21-2007, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by na85:
I hadn't thought of eBay, actually.

I can't order it from amazon, etc bc I don't have a credit card http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I got my copy (virtually new!) off an amazon second-hand dealer for around US$20. It's not a standard collection of anecdotes and diagrams, it's an actual textbook for fighter pilots, written as though you'll use it. Very dry, very useful.

As for credit cards, there's always paypal, or for general internet and phone purchases, get a debit card. Works like a credit card, but you have to have the money in the account before you can use it. Significant advantage in that if it is stolen, you don't have to worry too much.

totalspoon
06-22-2007, 04:39 AM
You can download it from here...

http://fatale.ic.cz/ebook/bible.rar

The download stopped on me a few times, just keep trying, its worth it...

II/JG2 Kellner

Rammjaeger
06-22-2007, 07:00 AM
This is something similar:

http://members.fortunecity.com/james45/id35.htm

ElSjonnie
06-22-2007, 08:36 AM
Deleted this post as I suspect this book is still copyrighted.

na85
06-22-2007, 09:31 AM
I'd rather support the author and purchase a book, tbh.

I'll keep looking around book stores, I guess. Thanks for links, all.

SithSpeeder
06-22-2007, 12:00 PM
Give a friend/acquaintance the money who DOES purchase through Amazon and have them buy it for you. Problem solved.

Or directly contact one of the resellers who is small and tell them your predicament. I'm sure they would accept advance payment for the book.

(and although you may not know me from "Adam", I'd do it for you).

Also, depending on where you live, you might find it in your local library system.

* _54th_Speeder *

M_Gunz
06-23-2007, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by na85:
I hadn't thought of eBay, actually.

I can't order it from amazon, etc bc I don't have a credit card http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I have a friend who has one son under 18 that buys gift cards at the mall and uses those
to purchase on internet. I am not sure just what kind of gift card because the ones that
I knew only work at one store but things change as years go by.

rnzoli
06-23-2007, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by ElSjonnie:
Deleted this post as I suspect this book is still copyrighted.

Yes, it is.
But you know, the funny thing is that everyone said so far that the book was very dry and academic, so I had absolutely zero interest in buying it.

But after reading the introduction from the author, I changed my mind. I understood that it is deliberately "academic", because he realized that anecdotes are insufficient to learn, and he wanted a thorough presentation of the subject. It's not "dry" because he lacked imagination - in fact the author seems to be a very friendly, likable person!

I was truly shocked to read his introduction, and made me want to buy the book on paper.

I have already bought 2 books from Amazon.com with a special limited credit card, and I had no problem with that, the books always arrived in time and in good shape.

http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-Combat-Maneuvering-Robert...id=1182601361&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-Combat-Maneuvering-Robert-Shaw/dp/0870210599/ref=sr_1_1/103-3291574-0995057?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182601361&sr=8-1)

Unfortunately, Amazon.com allows peeking into the already "academic" part of the book instead of the introduction by the author... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

leitmotiv
06-23-2007, 07:33 AM
You are a straight shooter na85. Go to a bookstore in your town which deals in used books and they can find you a good copy on the web for a good price. Brand new, here is what you are looking at from the publisher, the United States Naval Institute:

http://www.usni.org/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=84

raaaid
06-23-2007, 08:26 AM
one of the thing i like of cfs2 was that you could beat zeros on sustained turns using altitude