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Hofer_
05-12-2005, 02:25 AM
Heads up for all in UK.

'100 Greatest war films' on Channel 4, Saturday at 9.20pm. (part 2 on Sunday) It's one of those voted for by the viewers type programmes.

It's being preceded by a showing of The Dambusters - which is nice.

Wonder what'll be no.1??

Hopefully, Saving Private Ryan, All quiet on the Western Front, Glory & 633 Squadron (my favourite as a kid http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) will all be in with a shout.

PBNA-Boosher
05-12-2005, 05:25 AM
The Thin Red Line? Hopefully, I really liked that one. Didn't like SPR that much at all.

MajorBloodnok
05-12-2005, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
The Thin Red Line? Hopefully, I really liked that one. Didn't like SPR that much at all. Yeah, I liked the bit where that bloke found out that his beloved wife was leaving him for some flyboy with a large ...er... areoplane. Almost everyone in the cinema laughed out loud at the bit where he got the Dear John letter... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Hofer_
05-12-2005, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
The Thin Red Line? Hopefully, I really liked that one. Didn't like SPR that much at all.

Agree with Thin Red Line - great film, beautifully shot.

Think SPR holds up if simply for the opening half an hour, which affected me more than any film I can remember.

ploughman
05-12-2005, 07:08 AM
Hmmm...the bit where they're advancing to contact through the grass and all you can hear is the wind through the blades and the thud of boots on earth. That scene put me there (if you know what I mean).

On the subject of top 100s, C4 have been doing this formatt for so long now that pretty soon they'll have the top 100 of their own top 100s. TV will eat itself, be sure.

bazzaah2
05-12-2005, 07:18 AM
hope the German film 'Stalingrad' makes it somewhere along the line - excellent film and shows the destruction, futility and human cost of it all very well. As it's from the losers' persepctive there's no flag waving so it's all the more honest for that.

NorrisMcWhirter
05-15-2005, 05:41 PM
I used to agree with most of these top 100s but...

Saving private ryan #1...
das boot #17...

My faith in channel 4 and the voters has been reduced to 0, especially when in their film review section das boot scored an average of 9.8 out of 10, SPR scored 9.07 and Braveheat (what?), coming in at a scandalous #13, scored 6 out of 10.

Cheers,
Norris

Bo_Nidle
05-15-2005, 06:25 PM
"Saving Private Ryan" was No1.Suits me. I thought it an excellent film.

Far superior to "The Thin red line" which almost killed me with boredom and its unnecessary arty cinematography (A 10 second shot of sunlight thru leaves!!!!???-GET ON WITH IT!!) Terrance Malik IMHO is one VERY overated director!

I read somewhere that Spielberg is doing a Pacific based movie.Hopefully that will be on a par with "Ryan".

My favourite director without a doubt is Michael Mann ever since I saw his first film "Thief" in 1981 (yes I'm THAT old!). He was supposed to be making a film with Tom Cruise about Billy Fiske of the Eagle Squadrons during the BoB.

Now being British this does make me wince and brace myself so to speak, as to whether it will be the usual Hollywood-America won the war on its own rhetoric.My hope lies with Manns reknowned attention to detail to pull it off.

"The Dambusters" is a film screaming to be remade with all the latest CGI effects. It would look fantastic!

F19_Olli72
05-16-2005, 02:33 AM
Didnt anyone catch the "Hollywood at war" series on TCM? Some of the 30s and 40s movies were great. Two of which i forgot the titles of: one IIRC was with Humphrey Bogart who was on a ship in the atlantic, which got strafed by german planes (early Heinkels i think with those open turrets in the front, He 59?). Very well made scenes for its time.

Another was about an early carrierbased biplane squadron. Again, really cool scenes with an interception of a german airship(!). We need blimps in FB/PF! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And i agree with Bo Nidle, "The thin red line" is one of the most boring warmovies ever made....maybe even more boring than "Battle of Midway" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Friendly_flyer
05-16-2005, 03:16 AM
If we are talking war in general, and not just WWII, there are a few films I would like to mention:

Platoon and Full Metal Jacket are two very good films, though it's a war that doesn't interest me much. Also, I once saw an old black and white film made in Vietnam, about a young couple in the Vietcong. The antagonists where the American helicopters. Seeing the conflict from the other side was really something. The sound of helicopters made me finch for years after I saw it. Unfortunately, I missed the first two or three minutes of it, so I never learned its title.

While we're on war in general, I would like to mention the Japanese "Ran". Though it may not be considered a proper war film, it shows the detrimental effect of war very well. I haven't seen "Kingdom of Heaven" yet, but I expect that one too to be a good film about one of the more unusual (and stupid) conflicts in human history.

When considering WWII, the mentioned "Stalingrad" is a freightingly good film. Also, I think "Last Bridge over the Rhine" deserved mentioning. And of course, "Dark blue World"...

Grue_
05-16-2005, 04:38 AM
http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfeatures/microsites/W/greatest_warfilms/results/5-1.html

Braveheart at No 13? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Here is the write up on Das Boot:

Film version of Wolfgang Petersen's superior soap set in the claustrophobic world of a World War II German submarine. The director exploits his claustrophobic setting to maximum effect, paradoxically using a steady-cam which rushes through the cramped interior only adding to the sense of isolation. Combined with the soap opera dramatics of the crew's life on board, Das Boot makes compulsive viewing.

Rah! Eastenders in a submarine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Friendly_flyer
05-16-2005, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by Grue_:
Braveheart at No 13?

Agreed, what's Braveheart doing in such a list? If they're including fantasy films with a tuch of history, I'd say Quest for Fire should be there as well.

Lucius_Esox
05-16-2005, 11:19 AM
I think Thin Red Line should have been number one.

First time I watched it I didn't really get it and did get a bit bored. The more I watched it the more I realised how good it was, it's, mm, subtler the Saving Private Ryan.

Dunkelgrun
05-16-2005, 02:28 PM
Did none of you blokes notice what was at Number 81? 'Love & Death' - a Woody Allen film! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Not only that, 'All Quiet on the Western Front' was way down; suppose not many of the voters had heard of it as it hasn't been on the box for years http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.

Cheers!

danjama
05-16-2005, 02:35 PM
Can anyone list the top ten here, i missed it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif Also where did memphis belle end up, and 12 o clock high? They are both great films, especially memphis belle. Thats was my fave as a kid. Oh and where did the great escape come? Man i cant believe that about braveheart, Its a ****e love movie. Kinda makes me glad i didnt watch it lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Hofer_
05-16-2005, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
Can anyone list the top ten here, i missed it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif Also where did memphis belle end up, and 12 o clock high? They are both great films, especially memphis belle. Thats was my fave as a kid. Oh and where did the great escape come? Man i cant believe that about braveheart, Its a ****e love movie. Kinda makes me glad i didnt watch it lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Top ten:
1. Saving Private Ryan
2. Apocalypse Now
3. Great Escape
4. Schindlers List
5. Full Metal Jacket
6. Platoon
7. Bridge too Far
8. Zulu
9. Black Hawk Down
10. Brige on River Kwai

Grue has posted a link to Channel 4 website in an earlier post where you can check out the rest. Memphis Belle was in there somewhere, not sure about 12 o'clock high.

These lists are very subjective, & you're always gonna get lots of different opinions.
The one thing everyone seems to agree on though is how the heck is Braveheart in there at no.13 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

RAF74_Poker
05-16-2005, 03:42 PM
Enemy at the gates ??
anywhere on the list ?

Hofer_
05-16-2005, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by RAF74_Poker:
Enemy at the gates ??
anywhere on the list ?

No.28

danjama
05-16-2005, 05:40 PM
For some reason i really dont like Zulu, just not an interesting subject for me. Thanks Hofar. I will check the C4 website now.