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USMC_Tailspin
07-19-2006, 10:31 AM
http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS04.jpg
Knights of the Sky was my first flight sim and I still have it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif


http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS06.jpg
It was in a cardboard box, like a board game.


http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS05.jpg
It came with a great Manual, Key card guide, Map and (4) 5 1/4" floppy disks.

The technical supplement says "We strongly recommend that the machine you use possess an
286 microprocessor or better. The machine must have at lease 640K of RAM."

I should build a 486 computer so I can play it again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif What was your first flight sim?

USMC_Tailspin
07-19-2006, 10:31 AM
http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS04.jpg
Knights of the Sky was my first flight sim and I still have it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif


http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS06.jpg
It was in a cardboard box, like a board game.


http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS05.jpg
It came with a great Manual, Key card guide, Map and (4) 5 1/4" floppy disks.

The technical supplement says "We strongly recommend that the machine you use possess an
286 microprocessor or better. The machine must have at lease 640K of RAM."

I should build a 486 computer so I can play it again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif What was your first flight sim?

MEGILE
07-19-2006, 10:37 AM
FS2002.

I am a flight sim noob.

Crash_Moses
07-19-2006, 10:40 AM
Sublogic's Flight Simulator (long before Microsoft got their hands on it).

Played it on an Atari 400 (with the membrane keyboard) and later an Atari 130XE (with 64kb of RAM!) sans joystick.

Still have the 130XE and Flight Simulator. Dug 'em out a couple of years ago and they still work great.

slipBall
07-19-2006, 10:44 AM
do you have to fold the cardboard http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f394/SlipBall/planeyyyyyf.jpg


what year is that from?

269GA-Veltro
07-19-2006, 10:48 AM
For me, BoB (Spitfire) and Lancaster for the C64....some years ago.
Soon after i've been captured by the dark side... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif...the Messerschmitt. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Pig_Mac
07-19-2006, 10:49 AM
Dambusters http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/DamBusters/DamBusters.htm

and

F-19 Stealth Fighter http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/F19.htm

both on my C-64

269GA-Veltro
07-19-2006, 10:51 AM
Exactly! The Lancaster....or better DamBusters! Thank! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/DamBusters/pics/pilot.gif

waffen-79
07-19-2006, 10:54 AM
Mine was:

F-19 Stealth Fighter

then:

F-15 STRIKE EAGLE II
F-117
Jet Fighter 2 (JF2)
F-29 Retaliator
A-10
Knights of the Sky

DOS oldies all of them, and I STILL have them

Fox_3
07-19-2006, 11:01 AM
My first flightsim was Flight Deck by Airfix. No computer required back in those days.

triad773
07-19-2006, 11:02 AM
UGH. Makes me feel old to think about it.
On a Apple II+, circa 1983; Flight Simulator 1.0

Had a grid you flew on; looked at stick mountains. You had to start it from the command line and use the 5.5" floppy. No hard drive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif ran through the TV. Played it for about 4 hours and chucked it. Then there was F-18 Attack Hornet from Microprose for the Apple Performa 6800. MUCH more fun. That game is still knocking about some places too under a different name on PC somewhere.

~S~

Pirschjaeger
07-19-2006, 11:06 AM
My first simulated flight was related to a broken ladder.

Bearcat99
07-19-2006, 11:47 AM
F-16 Fighting Falcon for the Sega Master System....
http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/b8/37/3b_1.JPG

Then Microproses F-117 NightHawk

Then Warbirds II.. which for me was a milestone because it was my first WWII sim.... couldnt do much with it.. but it had a Redtail P-51C in it.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Then CFS1.... and I was hooked...

IL2 and I was hooked for life..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

The interesting thing about the Sega thing was that I could use two game pads.... I had this wide armrest chair.. and I would put the pads on each armrest... real crappy graphics though.... almost blocks.... but it whetted my appetitie...

MrMojok
07-19-2006, 11:51 AM
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/protot/swotl_early.jpg

http://www.games.net/screens/110083/45762-2-2.jpg

F6_Ace
07-19-2006, 12:27 PM
http://gry.o2.pl/upload/files/fsim.png
and
http://gry.o2.pl/upload/files/tomahawk.png

Ich bin flight sim experten

Pirschjaeger
07-19-2006, 12:55 PM
Nice cave art. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

justflyin
07-19-2006, 12:58 PM
Gunship

A10 - Tank Killer

A10 - Tank Killer : Desert Storm

First online experience:

CFS1 (for about a week) then Jane's WWII Fighters (2000-2002)

IL2 to FB/AEP to PF merged (2001 - Present)

TC_Stele
07-19-2006, 01:01 PM
Wow, I remember when you could slam into the deck of the carrier at high speed and still land successfully. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ploughman
07-19-2006, 01:02 PM
That Psion Sim looks very familiar. I can't remember if the ZX-81 was colour or monochrome but it reminds me very much of the first flight sim I ever played on it. I landed my first plane on it and in my exultation gave my mate a big hug. He had a broken collar bone, gained heroically in action on the Rugby field, and he was less than pleased. Salty, if you're out there, sorry mate.

Pig_Mac
07-19-2006, 01:04 PM
..first online flying was during a beta of AirWarrior III. Still one of the best utilisations of force feedback sticks ever. I didn't have it during the first beta I tried, bought the msFFB1 with the I-76 (lovely game!) included.


F-15 strike eagle 2 or 3 was the best multiplayer I've ever played, the one where you could play one in fron .. one in the back

p-11.cAce
07-19-2006, 01:29 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/acmeaviator/Chuck_Yeager27s_Advanced_Flight_Sim.gif
Chuck Yeager Advanced Flight Trainer - yeah baby http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif My girlfriend and I were discussing what we did as kids - I said that I "stayed up all night flying on the computer, listening to euro pop music, and drinking Mountain Dew". She quickly replied "well gee nothing much changes, huh" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

nickdanger3
07-19-2006, 01:33 PM
For comabt it would be Intelivison:

http://www.hotcom.com/intellivision/b17title.jpg
How are these controls?
http://www.hotcom.com/intellivision/b17bomberovly.jpg

But my first flight sim was, well, the first flight sim:

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/img/history/10_greensticks.jpg

Pig_Mac
07-19-2006, 01:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p-11.cAce:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/acmeaviator/Chuck_Yeager27s_Advanced_Flight_Sim.gif
Chuck Yeager Advanced Flight Trainer - yeah baby http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif My girlfriend and I were discussing what we did as kids - I said that I "stayed up all night flying on the computer, listening to euro pop music, and drinking Mountain Dew". She quickly replied "well gee nothing much changes, huh" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

..While she did ..what? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BSS_AIJO
07-19-2006, 04:16 PM
ALl the first ones for me were the Dynamix games.

Red Baron,
Aces over Europe
Aces Over the Pacific

Great games.. not too bad looking either concidering my 486sx25 and the floppy install. 8^P

I had a seperate boot floppy to setup emm386 and stuff just for the games.

It sucked.

BSS_AIJO

Lowenherz
07-19-2006, 04:19 PM
Luftwaffe Commander!

DuxCorvan
07-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Lucasfilm's Their Finest Hour. And Microprose's F-19 -the precursor of F-117 game.

Old_Canuck
07-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Sorry lads, I got you all beat. My first multi-player flightsim dates back to the late 1950's. My buddy and I would draw pictures of dogfights and pass them back and forth to each other until the teacher caught us.

wayno7777
07-19-2006, 06:40 PM
Fighter Duel and Fighter Wing. Couldn't get either to work too well....

Enforcer572005
07-19-2006, 06:57 PM
like above, the dynamix sims, starting with redbarron. I hated having to have a seperate boot disk for each sim.

quasimodo_3
07-19-2006, 07:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USMC_Tailspin:
http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS04.jpg
Knights of the Sky was my first flight sim and I still have it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif


http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS06.jpg
It was in a cardboard box, like a board game.


http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/KoS05.jpg
It came with a great Manual, Key card guide, Map and (4) 5 1/4" floppy disks.

The technical supplement says "We strongly recommend that the machine you use possess an
286 microprocessor or better. The machine must have at lease 640K of RAM."

I should build a 486 computer so I can play it again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif What was your first flight sim? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Maybe you can still play it, Tailspin. Found these url's that might get it up and running on your xp platform:

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
http://nimbus.dcsc.tudelft.nl/users/xtc/games_i_k/kots.zip

leitmotiv
07-19-2006, 07:57 PM
Around 1960 received a large unit which looked like a jet instument panel. It projected moving silhouettes of aircraft against a wall and you could fire a battery of suction cup-tipped, spring-fired missiles at the images. Had a stick, I think, and you tried to "fly" following an image on the "radar screen." Loved it. Had to wait 'til 2004 (IL-2 etc) to have as much fun. Unfortunately, real life air warfare isn't much fun. I was a bombardier---in 1970 I chucked toilet paper rolls out the open door of a Cessna in a tight bank, looking straight down at my high school, kept from annihilation by a straining lap strap---terrified and elated all at once. Flew two "missions" and retired.

Crash_Moses
07-19-2006, 08:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Around 1960 received a large unit which looked like a jet instument panel. It projected moving silhouettes of aircraft against a wall and you could fire a battery of suction cup-tipped, spring-fired missiles at the images. Had a stick, I think, and you tried to "fly" following an image on the "radar screen." Loved it. Had to wait 'til 2004 (IL-2 etc) to have as much fun. Unfortunately, real life air warfare isn't much fun. I was a bombardier---in 1970 I chucked toilet paper rolls out the open door of a Cessna in a tight bank, looking straight down at my high school, kept from annihilation by a straining lap strap---terrified and elated all at once. Flew two "missions" and retired. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROFLMAO! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Didja set 'em on fire first?

Treetop64
07-19-2006, 08:20 PM
My social downward spiral started with LucasArts "Their Finest Hour", and I've played virtually every flight sim on the market ever since...

One of my all-time favorites was DiD's "Total Air War" Absolutely LOVED that game to death! Please, if anyone knows how to attain a (legal) copy playable on an XP platform I would be eternally grateful! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

CUJO_1970
07-19-2006, 08:26 PM
Jane's WWII Fighters.

leitmotiv
07-19-2006, 08:58 PM
No, but I got a very tight pattern!

DHC2Pilot
07-19-2006, 09:57 PM
First Civil flight sim was Sublogic Flight Simulator 1 (wireframe graphics), and the first combat flight sim was Microprose F-15 Eagle III. I can remember when I first started playing F-15 and thinking how awesome the graphics were and how cool it was to have all the weapons, etc. to play around with. Now, think of how far we've come in the last 15 years, and then think ahead another 10 years or so....what will flight sims be like then? Hmmmmm.

VF-51-Dart
07-19-2006, 10:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by triad773:
UGH. Makes me feel old to think about it.
On a Apple II+, circa 1983; Flight Simulator 1.0 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! Ditto! Flew it on my Cousin's old Apple. Drove him nuts cause he just never "got it" and I'd take over his computer for hours! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Look familiar? LOL!
http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_civil/FSI/pics/screen.gif

WWMaxGunz
07-19-2006, 10:23 PM
Computer flight sim as opposed to simulation board game?

I forget the name but in 1981 I played one on the Univ of Delaware plasma terminals run
by a Cyber-770 across town. You had to hold the Enter key down to make it move but for
the year it was very cool except the only ones who would play had a lot of experience
and as I found out they also cheated. Yes, my first computer flight sim was MP.

More often after work a bunch of us played an MUD RPG named Moria that does not look like
the later Rogue-Moria versions I've had on PC's. And that got interesting in deeper ways
due to the interaction of players in different buildings.

WWMaxGunz
07-19-2006, 10:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nickdanger3:
For comabt it would be Intelivison: </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Had a buddy who had that and the speech unit. So when any of us would show up for a party
the standard greeting was "Watch - Out --- for - Flak!".

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But my first flight sim was, well, the first flight sim: </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only the first you know of. Universities had such before then. The one I played in 81 was
not exactly new. Keep it straight, M$ never marketed anything original that I know of. Why
they don't make vaccuum cleaners... no wait, that'd be redundant.

tagTaken2
07-19-2006, 11:33 PM
F-29 Retaliator.

Boop... boop.

LStarosta
07-20-2006, 12:04 AM
I remember downloading a Battle of Britain mod for the original Dungeons and Dragons back in the 6th grade.

Werre_Fsck
07-20-2006, 03:10 AM
Gunship on C64.
Tape version. Took some 30 mins to load a mission...
http://www.lemon64.com/games/screenshots/full/gunship_01.gif
http://www.lemon64.com/games/screenshots/full/gunship_06.gif

http://bop.agria.hu/muzeum/m_gunship_03.jpg
http://www.lemon64.com/games/screenshots/full/gunship_04.gif
http://www.lemon64.com/games/screenshots/full/gunship_03.gif

woofiedog
07-20-2006, 03:49 AM
Spitfire... A Fairchild's Channel F video game.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Fairchild_channel-f.gif

http://www.vgmuseum.com/images/channelf/Spitfire.png

Still runs Mint after all these years. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Deedsundone
07-20-2006, 05:16 AM
My first flight games was on a C 64.Don´t really remember if it was Spitfire (40?),Thomahawk, or Ace of aces.
I remember that I was amazed that you actually could see the stick move in Spitfire but from what I recall the FPS in that game was something like 1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Nick_Toznost
07-20-2006, 06:14 AM
Anyone remember Cinemaware's "Wings" from 1990?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/Nick_Toznost/1-1.jpg

It was hardly an accurate flight sim but it was sooo immersive. Something that most combat flight sims lack these days. Really detailed missions.
I played wings for days on end. Certainly the game I was most addicted to until il2 came along 11 years later.

NS38th_Aristaus
07-20-2006, 06:18 AM
First flight sim was CFS1, then moved to CFS2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Ironman69
07-20-2006, 06:39 AM
My first flight sim was the Super Nintendo's
PILOTWINGS. This game really gave me the "basics"...and I mean very basics of flight. Interestingly enough..I learned the basics of parachuting too!

The second Flight Sim I played that really expanded my knowledge was Lucasart's Space Sim:
X-WING. This game really introduced me to situational awareness and target prioritizing and acquisiton.

The game that really got me into dogfighting school was..as Bearcat99 played..:
WARBIRDS II ...by iEN. This game really introduced me to combat tactics and maneuvering.

After Warbirds II..i went straight to IL2...and have never looked back.

ojcar1971
07-20-2006, 07:50 AM
I started with X-wing, Secret weapons of the Luftwaffe and Their finest hour. Next I moved to Red Baron, Aces of the Pacific and Aces over Europe and Red Baron became my all time favourite sim (until Il-2 arrived)
I also flied Chuck Yeager air combat, Red Baron II, Red Baron 3D, Air warrior III, Tie Fighter...
Next I discovered the original IL-2 and now I fly exclusively FB and SFP1/WoV

LeOs.K_Walstein
07-20-2006, 08:39 AM
My first one was the "Mighty Eight, B-17". Then Rowan´s "Battle of Britain", then FS2002.

Ever so happy,
Wallstein

AVGWarhawk
07-20-2006, 09:16 AM
I believe I had some crappy Sega flight sim. I talked the wife into a computer and got Jane's WWII flight sim (excellent game). Fooled around with the other Jane's sims, CFS1 and 2, IL series. I have MS sim. By the way, ever since I asked the wife for a computer I have not seen her since. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Crash_Moses
07-20-2006, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Werre_Fsck:
Gunship on C64.
Tape version. Took some 30 mins to load a mission...
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol...that reminds me of another called B1 Bomber. Also came on a cassette tape. It was all text and came with some maps of Russia. You had to plot your course using the map and avoid incoming missiles using chaff and flares, then bomb your target and get the heck out of dodge before the nuclear blast wave hit ya.

Viper2005_
07-20-2006, 09:33 AM
Harrier attack on the Amstrad CPC464. Awesome!

widdershins
07-20-2006, 09:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nickdanger3:
For comabt it would be Intelivison:

http://www.hotcom.com/intellivision/b17title.jpg
How are these controls?
http://www.hotcom.com/intellivision/b17bomberovly.jpg
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uh oh! That was not a target!

Besides Intellevision, the first sim I owned was Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer, followed by F-16 Fighting Falcon, Thier Finest Hour, 1942 Pacific Air War and finaly the Il-2 series.


p.s.
Look out for flak!

Treetop64
07-20-2006, 04:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Werre_Fsck:
Gunship on C64.
Tape version. Took some 30 mins to load a mission...
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol...that reminds me of another called B1 Bomber. Also came on a cassette tape. It was all text and came with some maps of Russia. You had to plot your course using the map and avoid incoming missiles using chaff and flares, then bomb your target and get the heck out of dodge before the nuclear blast wave hit ya. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Boy... I don't miss the Cold War years at all.