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SonOfTheBeach69
10-27-2004, 03:45 AM
Currently there is no dynamic campaign for the P-38 in FP+AEP+PF. I think there is a way to alter some text file to get it in. Would someone be kind enough to tell me how?

Thanks!

WOLFMondo
10-27-2004, 04:01 AM
Theres a P47 campaign, why no '38 campaign? The mind boggles given its importance in the theatre.

SonOfTheBeach69
10-27-2004, 06:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Theres a P47 campaign, why no '38 campaign? The mind boggles given its importance in the theatre. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The reason must be, that there is no P-38 in stand alone PF (wonder why's that anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ).

So, can anyone help us on this? Maybe fiddling with some dynamic generator files?

A.K.Davis
10-27-2004, 07:28 AM
no appropiate map for late-model P-38s

WOLFMondo
10-27-2004, 07:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SonOfTheBeach69:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Theres a P47 campaign, why no '38 campaign? The mind boggles given its importance in the theatre. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The reason must be, that there is no P-38 in stand alone PF (wonder why's that anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ).

So, can anyone help us on this? Maybe fiddling with some dynamic generator files? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Theres no P47 either in standalonehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

GT182
10-27-2004, 10:56 AM
I do know that a/c could be changed in the Dymnamic Campaign for FB/AEP. Missions/Campaign/Country, then the dgen for it. Just go in and open the dgen folder with Notepad and change the name to what you want. Make sure it's typed the same way so it will show. ie. FW_190A4 changed to FW_190A6, now the A6 would replace the A4.

Make an install of FB/AEP with PF. Then you will have the P47. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

You should be able to change the a/c in PF the same way as above. Back up the folder you're changing just in case you make a mistake. Good luck.

Hartford688
10-28-2004, 01:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SonOfTheBeach69:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Theres a P47 campaign, why no '38 campaign? The mind boggles given its importance in the theatre. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The reason must be, that there is no P-38 in stand alone PF (wonder why's that anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ).

So, can anyone help us on this? Maybe fiddling with some dynamic generator files? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Theres no P47 either in standalonehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have either of you got it? I have both in my standalone....

BuzzU
10-28-2004, 01:57 PM
The P-38 gets no respect.

MK2aw
10-28-2004, 02:08 PM
Guys there have been extensive conversations with the developer of the DGEN campaign generator at simhq.

According to his post ,his latest patch will include a P-38L campaign for the USAAF over Japan in 1945 (air start). It's gonna be a lot of fun actually.
The reason more can not be included at this time are the following and discussed in detail in the threads I mentioned:

There are currently no other maps that would work with a P-38 campaign.(perhaps Guadacanal and Iwo discussed below)
the New Guniea map is remotely possible as it can show P-38s out of Moresby and going over to Buna to fight but the P-38H does not exsist.

As soon as more maps are available there will be more P-38 campaigns.

The possibility exsist for a campaign for the P-38 over Iwo Jima but that is not guaranteed.

It is also possible to get a Guadacanal campaign going but that is not confirmed.(all the fights would be defensive, not completely historically accurate).


mk2aw

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2004, 02:43 PM
So would the air-raids on Rabaul be part of the New Guinea map? I'm a little vague on the geography...

WOLFMondo
10-28-2004, 02:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MK2aw:
Guys there have been extensive conversations with the developer of the DGEN campaign generator at simhq.

According to his post ,his latest patch will include a P-38L campaign for the USAAF over Japan in 1945 (air start). It's gonna be a lot of fun actually. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Link? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

A.K.Davis
10-28-2004, 02:48 PM
link (http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=114;t=000627)

New Guinea map does not include Rabaul. Look in Maps sticky topic at top of this forum.

Fliegeroffizier
10-28-2004, 03:33 PM
Is there any plan to produce models of the P38 earlier than the curently available J and L? The J did not apear til august of 1943 or later, whereas the earlier model(s) were in active use in Solomons and New Guinea from at least Decemeber 1942 onwards. Much of the Pacific air war took place in 1943 and the best USAAF Pacific pilots(seven of the top eight aces)flew the P38. Sixteen of the top ace's kills were made while flying versions of the P38 pre-J model, like the H.

Meanwhile, just for the record, with regard to P38's(J's OR L's) over Japan, although I may have overlooked some things, I've tried awfully hard and can find only ONE reference in the USAAF chronology/history...it is to the use of P-38's only once over the home islands, on August 10, 1945. That's all. P38 units/acft had only just begun to redeploy from the Phillipines up to Ie Shima(near Okinawa) in early August. USAAF Chronology August 1945 (http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/wwii/usaf/html/Aug.45.html)
The P38's WERE used extensively in CBI against targets in China and also against targets in Indochina and Phillipines right up until the end of the war, but NOT against Japan home island targets. That was the operating area for P51's and P47's based at Okinawa and/or Iwo Jima, as well as bombers(A26's, B24's, B25's,B29's), of course.

I did find this little known "fact":
On August 25, 1945, a pair of P-38s were the first American aircraft to land in Japan after the surrender on August 15. They later claimed that this unauthorized landing was due to "engine difficulties", a somewhat suspect explanation.

MK2aw
10-28-2004, 05:30 PM
Fliegeroffizier,

I refer you to page 60 of the book :49th fighter group: by Ernest R. McDowell.

George Laven Jr, a P-38 Ace I quote:

He was also the group adavnced man and was the first to land on Okinawa. Then he got in some solo missions or flew with just one wingman. He has been credited with sinking some 60,000 tons of enemy shipping with the destruction of 69 locomotives on Formosa and Japan itself"

That was the first book I pulled. i can probably find alot more.

The chronology does not list every misison flown, not even remotely close.

Starshoy
10-28-2004, 07:25 PM
It is pretty easy to add P-38J to New Guinea or any other map you want. Currently, however, there are no maps where it's presence will be strictly historical (BTW P-47 does exist in standalone version and is one of choices for 1945 USAAF campaign). In the beta patch I added P-38L to Japan '45 campaign, which is also not 100% historically correct, but at least some missions were flown in that period).

I hope that we will have more maps where P-38 will be in place.

A.K.Davis
10-29-2004, 12:25 AM
Starshoy, please revisit simhq thread. P-38 airstart at Iwo Jima would be historical.

SonOfTheBeach69
10-29-2004, 05:31 AM
Thanks a lot all!

@GT182:
I'll try that as soon as 'll get home. Thanks!

So, the Japan '45 campaingn, that's currently available for P-47, would be quite historical for P-38 too, i guess.