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LeadSpitter_
01-13-2004, 05:29 AM
In the previous version machine gun fired the 4 inner .50 cals and cannon fired the outer 2 which allowed us to use staggered convergence.

Also the removal of the 100-120mix which really made a difference in low alt performance needs to be brought back, its in all the aircraft manuals so i dont know why its been removed but remains on soviet ac and the p40 fieldmod only?

The p47d27 full loaded goes off the runways to take off now without 120 mix

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LeadSpitter_
01-13-2004, 05:29 AM
In the previous version machine gun fired the 4 inner .50 cals and cannon fired the outer 2 which allowed us to use staggered convergence.

Also the removal of the 100-120mix which really made a difference in low alt performance needs to be brought back, its in all the aircraft manuals so i dont know why its been removed but remains on soviet ac and the p40 fieldmod only?

The p47d27 full loaded goes off the runways to take off now without 120 mix

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p1ngu666
01-13-2004, 07:20 AM
there wasnt 2 triggers in the 51/40 ?
think it was outside 2 and the inner ones where your sniper guns http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-13-2004, 07:39 AM
BumP!

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01-13-2004, 09:33 AM
Good point. I always harmonize my .50s all together at point point and thus hadn't noticed the change.

It's a documented fact that many pilots staggered their .50 cal convergence and the cannon/mg settings was a dirt-simple way to set that using features already built into the sim.

As for mixture controls... well, mixture never really did much of anything that was realistic in this sim--

1. You can run over-rich at high altitude all day long, blowing brown smoke, and your plugs never foul. The only effects are reduced power and smoke.

2. You can run lean at high power settings without wrecking the motor.

3. Descending for long periods of time at low power settings does not foul the plugs. No need to "clear the plugs" after a long cruise descent, before entering the landing pattern.

While I'd love to have more realistic CEM effects, it is probably not going to happen in this sim. That doesn't make FB bad... just limited.

Can you imagine what kind of cool things might be in The Next Sim? Suppose they simulated different grades of fuel... German aircraft in late '44 that need C3 to run, but due to shortages they only have B2..... pilots have to baby the engines or risk damaging them. Boy that would sure cause an uproar ;-)

Or (at risk of reigniting that old thread) imagine P-47s with the documented "hot rod" treatment.... also a modification that requires high test fuel to run safely.

Wolf_Fangs1381
01-13-2004, 11:09 AM
Hello Guys,

I wasn't aware that in the previous version you could fire the inner four .50 cals and fire the outer two .50 cals seperately. I personally like the way it is set up on the Mustang. All six .50 cals firing at once. I do believe the machine convergence sets the inner four guns and the cannon convergence set the outer two guns (could be the same for the Warhawk). Although it could be the other way around. I am not sure but I will check it out later. I know on the Thunderbolt I can fire the inner two and the outer two seperately. Or all at once if I want too. The thing I don't like is how the .50 cals fire. They do not oscillate like they did in real life. I forget the firing order for the Mustang,but I am sure I can find it somewhere online. I would like to see the .50 cals oscillate when they are being fired. It would add a little bit more to the realistic factor. =S=

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LEXX_Luthor
01-13-2004, 11:11 PM
cosmokart:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Can you imagine what kind of cool things might be in The Next Sim? Suppose they simulated different grades of fuel... German aircraft in late '44 that need C3 to run, but due to shortages they only have B2.....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
A bad BAD idea unless New Feature can be turned off because Next Sim with good (http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) dynamic campaign may allow Germany to win the WAR, or at least not suffer the shortages in 1944 but say 1942 or 1946.

http://www.boardy.de/images/smilies/kopfpatsch.gif Think simmers/simerettes, think for a change.

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