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noleaf
10-21-2006, 06:06 PM
It seems every other Ubisoft game has Southpaw controls missing, and us left handers CANNOT PLAY them without Southpaw.

Please put Southpaw into this game or my head will explode.

RetiredHatch
10-21-2006, 06:22 PM
what's Southpaw? is that where the right thumbstick moves and the left thumstick looks? x.x how does that work? and how you get to the buttons XD sorry i seem biased i need to play it like that i'm a lil curious now i've never looked at it before

Fates.Dark.Hand
10-22-2006, 05:35 AM
Whats Southpaw? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

...And can't you just change the control options? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TraceurX
10-22-2006, 05:44 AM
the hell? im a lefty. what choo talkin bout? I have no problem with games because of that.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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princeofyo
10-22-2006, 07:21 AM
I'm left-handed too, and I have no idea what he is talking about...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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entropy777
10-22-2006, 10:33 AM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">A southpaw is what you call someone who is left handed.</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 10:35 AM
yea but southpaw controls? I just thought everyone played the same x.x left or right handed kinda gotta use both hands no matter whatcha doin

entropy777
10-22-2006, 11:13 AM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">Left handed people generally use the left hand for the mouse and the right hand for the keyboard.</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 11:15 AM
That makes sense I think he's talking about controller wise with a 360 or a ps3 or something I figured that was the same for both left and right handed people

Fates.Dark.Hand
10-22-2006, 11:28 AM
Shouldnt it be called West Paw? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 12:03 PM
Sure.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

entropy777
10-22-2006, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
That makes sense I think he's talking about controller wise with a 360 or a ps3 or something I figured that was the same for both left and right handed people

<span class="ev_code_GREY">Same thing, complete opposite controls from the regular ones.</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 08:16 PM
I guess i just figure left-handed people played with the same control options that right-hanged people do

noleaf
10-23-2006, 01:25 AM
Southpaw is where you Aim with the Left Stick and Move with the Right Stick. Usually it's the preferred configuration for left handers because our left hand is more accurate than the right. And when you think about it, traditionally on console game pads the left thumb has always been the one that does the majority of the precision work - it is totally unnatural for me to aim with the right stick... It's like trying to write right handed - it just doesn't work.

Southpaw controls have been in games for years... Most noticable Halo 1 on the Xbox (a 5 year old game) came with Standard, Southpaw, Legacy, and Legacy-Southpaw configurations.

For some (stupid) reason Ubisoft have been leaving it out of recent games and it renders the game unplayable to those of us that need Southpaw controls.

It's probably the biggest acessibility issue on the Xbox 360 at the moment, yet it is getting absolutely no press.

Apparently the new Splinter Cell game doesn't even have Southpaw controls. Ubisoft are going backwards... That's why I'm posting here and pleading for it to stop: we NEED Southpaw controls in games!!!

katz_bg
10-23-2006, 01:44 AM
why didn't you just say "make the controls fully configurable" ?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-23-2006, 03:26 PM
oh..... well huh... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

noleaf
10-23-2006, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by katz_bg:
why didn't you just say "make the controls fully configurable" ?

Well, because Southpaw is the right term for what I was asking? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fully configurable controls would be damn nice though. I much prefer being able to map each button, rather than sticking to just 2 or 3 default layouts which is what most games do. Button and stick mappings can't be that hard to add to a game - PC games manage it with ease!

RetiredHatch
10-23-2006, 04:24 PM
I remember reading that on the halo thing i THINK http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif if that's not there that forget it i was lying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
10-24-2006, 07:43 AM
I'm lefthanded, but I still don't see what's the fuss about southpaw is all about, I mean I've been playing games the normal "right handed" since always, and never had a problem with that, just get used to the regular way and you wouldn't need to worry about southpaw anymore http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 03:11 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Yea i figured that's how it worked http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

jesus-toast
10-24-2006, 03:17 PM
im a lefty, and personnally, the best way to not get into using southpaw is to just play it normally...infact southpaw for me is extermley uncomfortable and i just switched back to the regular configuration

noleaf
10-24-2006, 06:45 PM
You guys don't get it :P

It's like writing left handed. You do it because it feels more natural. You do it because your physically cannot write as fast or as accurately or neatly with your right hand. It's exactly the same when using the thumbsticks on a controller.

How many of you that consider yourself lefties do EVERYTHING with your left hand? Write, use scissors, use a spoon and knife with your left hand, brush your teeth, use your PC mouse, play guitar... do you do some of those things right handed? Some of you obviously play games using a right handed configuration!

It's not about learning the other way because some people can't.

Southpaw controls are necessary for many left handers (and some right handers) to feel confortable with the control pad, or to enjoy any kind of accuracy. When developers leave out the Southpaw configuration we simply cannot enjoy the game.

This site usually posts news about upcoming games that do or don't support alternative controller configs:
http://www.altcntrlgmr.com/

See this thread for info about the lengths some people have had to go to, to get left handed support:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=554324&st=30

Because of bad support from developers people have resorted to physically modifying the controllers (by way of cutting traces and resoldering the electronics) to swap the thumb sticks, and even more. In that thread above the guy has physically SWAPPED the d-pad and face buttons on the controller. People now sell modded controllers... But WHY? All because developers don't include a simple software option in the games.

Go into your gamer profile in the Xbox 360 dashboard and go to Game Defaults. Then go to Action, and then look at the settings you have. You can choose to move with the left stick OR right stick. This option is provided to the games by the dashboard. The problem we have is that developers are IGNORING the settings!!! So when I set up my controller to move with the right stick, I go into a game like GRAW and push the right stick and it AIMS... WTF!

Every time a game is announced now I will have to go into the forums to ask for Southpaw support, because some developers have just proved to be untrustworthy.

The best news I've heard lately is that Gears of War will support Southpaw. AWESOME! Other games like Call of Duty support it, and like I already said Halo 1 on the Xbox supported it 5 YEARS ago! It's inexcusable for developers not to include it in games these days, especially when Microsoft has already laid the foundation for allowing us, the gamers, to choose how we want to play games.

Big rant I know, but I just wanted to explain some of the issues so that you guys are aware that not everybody is the same, and that this IS a real accessibility issue for some people.

Cheers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

katz_bg
10-24-2006, 11:49 PM
Why don't you suggest Sony to make a symmetric controller for left handed people http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
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jesus-toast
10-25-2006, 01:17 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif this guys gotta point

RetiredHatch
10-25-2006, 01:49 PM
Sony's controllers are symmetrical... x.x I think the problem is if you notice we right handers aim with our right hand our more accurate hand a left handed person's left hand is more accurate then their right hand sooo it'd only make more sense to use that hand to aim and the right one to move

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif atleast that's what i picked up from what he said http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

But what I don't get is so many lefties just now said they have no problems playing with the regular config why do you have problems? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

katz_bg
10-25-2006, 01:59 PM
RetiredHatch you didn't understand what i meant.
http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/g/gu/gugacurado/272723_ps2_gamepad__2.jpg
turned into something like
http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=272723ps2gamepadis7.jpg
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RetiredHatch
10-25-2006, 02:02 PM
Oh basically a mirror image symmetrical means it's the same on both sides if you split it in half... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif Well than i like that idea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Maximus1170
10-25-2006, 02:53 PM
Thats something that i would buy.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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noleaf
10-26-2006, 06:25 AM
I'm actually perfectly happy with the shape of the Xbox 360 controller... I just want to Aim with the Left stick (using my left hand, my accurate hand!) and Move with the Right stick. That is all. You can configure this in the dashboard, but some games (like GRAW) ignore the settings. I am sick of games that don't cater for left handers.

RetiredHatch
10-26-2006, 08:39 AM
I am sick of games that don't cater for left handers.

They figure left-handers play the same as right-handers because most of them do.... why should they make that option if nobodies going to use it? How many games even have a southpaw option? besides Halo just get used to the other way around and you won't have a problem and you won't get mad and besides in this game there aint going to be much aiming anyways if any at all so you can play the normal way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

SpiderFreak
10-28-2006, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by noleaf:
You guys don't get it :P

It's like writing left handed. You do it because it feels more natural. You do it because your physically cannot write as fast or as accurately or neatly with your right hand. It's exactly the same when using the thumbsticks on a controller.

How many of you that consider yourself lefties do EVERYTHING with your left hand? Write, use scissors, use a spoon and knife with your left hand, brush your teeth, use your PC mouse, play guitar... do you do some of those things right handed? Some of you obviously play games using a right handed configuration!

It's not about learning the other way because some people can't.

Southpaw controls are necessary for many left handers (and some right handers) to feel confortable with the control pad, or to enjoy any kind of accuracy. When developers leave out the Southpaw configuration we simply cannot enjoy the game.

This site usually posts news about upcoming games that do or don't support alternative controller configs:
http://www.altcntrlgmr.com/

See this thread for info about the lengths some people have had to go to, to get left handed support:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=554324&st=30

Because of bad support from developers people have resorted to physically modifying the controllers (by way of cutting traces and resoldering the electronics) to swap the thumb sticks, and even more. In that thread above the guy has physically SWAPPED the d-pad and face buttons on the controller. People now sell modded controllers... But WHY? All because developers don't include a simple software option in the games.

Go into your gamer profile in the Xbox 360 dashboard and go to Game Defaults. Then go to Action, and then look at the settings you have. You can choose to move with the left stick OR right stick. This option is provided to the games by the dashboard. The problem we have is that developers are IGNORING the settings!!! So when I set up my controller to move with the right stick, I go into a game like GRAW and push the right stick and it AIMS... WTF!

Every time a game is announced now I will have to go into the forums to ask for Southpaw support, because some developers have just proved to be untrustworthy.

The best news I've heard lately is that Gears of War will support Southpaw. AWESOME! Other games like Call of Duty support it, and like I already said Halo 1 on the Xbox supported it 5 YEARS ago! It's inexcusable for developers not to include it in games these days, especially when Microsoft has already laid the foundation for allowing us, the gamers, to choose how we want to play games.

Big rant I know, but I just wanted to explain some of the issues so that you guys are aware that not everybody is the same, and that this IS a real accessibility issue for some people.

Cheers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The thing is, most left-handed gamers have just gotten used to playing with normal controls. Similarly, I play with normal Y-axis settings for aiming. It's just unnatural for me to move a thumbstick or mouse down and have my view go up. However, a long time ago I played Jedi Knight (I think, might have been a different game) almost exclusively for around a week. Because that game doesn't have an option for normal Y-axis settings, I ended up just having to get used to playing it like that. Then, after a while, I was playing Halo again, and I was just too used to the reversed Y-axis controls that I actually ended up changing my settings on Halo to reverse the Y-axis. I ended up "learning" how to play with normal settings again, but it took a while.

My point is that most left-handed players, either because they just didn't want to play Southpaw or because their games didn't support it, have gotten used to playing with normal settings. Because of this, the demand for Southpaw is very little, and as such most developers just don't care to add it. Would it be nice for the lefties in the gaming community? Sure. Would it take them a bit more time (not much, but a bit), serve a very small percentage of their consumers, and be a minor detail easy to look over? Yes.

Honestly, I wish that every single console game had completely customizable controls. But it's just not realistic to expect every developer to do that.

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wailer1986
10-28-2006, 08:38 PM
I know people who are left handed and they play GRAW (Gost Recon: Advanced Warfighter) fine... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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entropy777
10-29-2006, 12:51 AM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">I'm surprised to see theres still posting in this topic, apparently the person who started this thread is NOT used to regular controls... Why is this so hard to comprehend?
That other left handed people play with regular controls is utterly irrelevant to the subject.</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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katz_bg
10-29-2006, 05:29 AM
1 thing I don't understand here.
Why do you need this southpaw for use of you precise thumb when this isn't a shooter game?
My right hand is more precise and yet in the PoP series the only precision I needed was for walking slowly some times. And I handled it no problem with my insensitive left thumb.

I believe that the case will be the same with AC. When it's not a FPS or 3rd PS you shouldn't need these special controls<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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nahguam2
10-29-2006, 09:52 AM
That other left handed people play with regular controls is utterly irrelevant to the subject.


If you read the OP:



us left handers CANNOT PLAY them without Southpaw


...All left-handers were pigeon-holed by this statement. I find it perfectly relevant for other left-handers to comment on their own experience to add to the discussion.

I am also left handed and left to my own devices I will do things left-handed. But if I am taught right-handed or action requires a device that is only right-handed then that is how I will learn to do it. Some examples:

write LH - natural
bowl in cricket LH - natural
bat in cricket RH - taught
knife & fork RH - taught
field hockey RH - sticks are only RH

If i pick up a knife and fork left-handed it feels wrong and I'm pretty sure it would feel very strange holding a left-handed field hockey stick.

Applying that to game controls, I don't actually recall ever feeling uncomfortable with a game pad. Mind you, I do use a mouse in my right hand, and looking at left-handed keyboards (num-pad on left) just confuse me. I generally use things in the way that they are presented to me.

entropy777
10-29-2006, 11:57 AM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">No, it's not relevant to the subject... The left handers who can play with regular controls already have them, this topic is about the people who can not play with regular controls.

What did you expect? If enough left handed people say they can play without soutpaw controls he will change his mind and go:


"Well damn, I guess I really can play without soutpaw controls, who knew!?"


No, that some people can play without soutpaw controls even though they're left handed has no relevance to the topic.</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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noleaf
10-29-2006, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by entropy777:
<span class="ev_code_GREY">No, it's not relevant to the subject... The left handers who can play with regular controls already have them, this topic is about the people who can not play with regular controls.</span>

Exactly.

If you're left handed and you aren't using Southpaw then you AREN'T PLAYING left handed, you're playing right handed.

If this game requires no precise aiming at all, anywhere in the game, then simply ignore this request, whatever.

nahguam2
10-30-2006, 01:48 PM
"Well damn, I guess I really can play without soutpaw controls, who knew!?"

You know it's funny because I actually I think that's right. My own personal opinion is that, yes, people may have a natural tendancy to go for things one particular way, but given practice can learn to do it perfectly well another way.

This adds weight to the argument of investment required by either a console maker or game maker to develop 'southpaw' controls when A) they are a minority and B) most (from comparing the other replying left-handers) of the minority can play right-handed just fine.

I'll leave you with this thought. If I'd said "can't" as a child my Mother would reply: "can't or won't?"...

PS there's no need to shout.

RetiredHatch
10-30-2006, 02:23 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif I can shoot pool with both my right and left hand mwahahahaha XD sorry just thought i needed to say that but i had to teach myself to play left handed -_- still kinda suck at it though but the balls go in soo yay

katz_bg
10-30-2006, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif I can shoot pool with both my right and left hand mwahahahaha XD
I know a math teacher who writes on the board with both hands, two different things simultaneously http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
His hands being about 1.2 meters apart when writing it.
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RetiredHatch
10-30-2006, 04:43 PM
Wow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

lpcrispo
10-31-2006, 08:12 AM
well, anyway, I dont think there will be a lot of precision aiming in this game as the game is more around exploring and melee atack...
the eagle vision dont need to be ultra precise to identify your target...

maybe with the crossbow.. but then again.. i'm sure if they go for realism you will not be able to move while shooting it... so maybe it will be the left stick that control aiming... well, we will see...

TraceurX
10-31-2006, 02:44 PM
I think that if I needed to, I could adapt to using southpaw, like the guy a few posts up said. Basically, you can learn to do anything left or right handed. In parkour, you cant jst say "i always do this valt going over left", because you may find a situation where you need to do that vault going over right. sure, you'll always have a more natural side, but you can become almost, if not as good, with things the other way round if you simply apply yourself. basically, if you care that much, just learn to not use southpaw.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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entropy777
10-31-2006, 03:51 PM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">So what you're saying is that instead of taking an hour and a half to make a southpaw set of controls you'd confine them to playing with right handed controls even though it never will be as easy?

That sounds a bit facist to me..</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
11-06-2006, 03:55 PM
Well if the developers aren't going to make the controls he should learn to play the other way instead of going onto a forum and complaining that he can't do it just a thought http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

katz_bg
11-06-2006, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
Well if the developers aren't going to make the controls he should learn to play the other way instead of going onto a forum and complaining that he can't do it just a thought http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
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noleaf
11-07-2006, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
Well if the developers aren't going to make the controls he should learn to play the other way instead of going onto a forum and complaining that he can't do it just a thought http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Your logic is backwards. The point is that I came here to ask for the inclusion of Southpaw controls, if applicable, before the game is finished and released. If there is no aiming then I can play just fine (because I prefer the left stick anyway), but if there is aiming in this game I want it to be with the left stick since thats how my controls are set up in the Dashboard. Games should obey the settings from the Game Defaults in the Dashboard, that's why the settings are there, end of story.

It is not a matter of learning to do it a different way. If it was, then there should be no reason that other people can't stop writing with their right hand and start writing with their left hand? It'll just take a few hours to relearn? Yeah right, didn't think so! Stop pretending that handedness doesn't exist, because it does http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DarkDeath_470
11-11-2006, 10:56 AM
If a left handed person is using a right handed control, they use a control right handed. i play sports with my left hand and write with my right hand and play with my right hand. But a person who plays video games left handed...needs a left handed controler.

Frozen-Arrow
11-11-2006, 05:28 PM
I was in gamestop today and was playing gears of war-sweet game/graphic wise from what I see- and when I first stepped up it was southpaw config and then I went into options to change ti and there was all those legacy settings and lefthanded stuff..don't remember the exact names.

noleaf
11-12-2006, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Frozen-Arrow:
I was in gamestop today and was playing gears of war-sweet game/graphic wise from what I see- and when I first stepped up it was southpaw config and then I went into options to change ti and there was all those legacy settings and lefthanded stuff..don't remember the exact names.

Yeah Gears of War is awesome, it has Standard, Southpaw, Legacy, and Legacy-Southpaw. The way games should be made with a good selection of controller options http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif In contrast, games like GRAW have standard control scheme and that's it, it just totally ignores any settings from the Dashboard and provides no options of it's own!

RetiredHatch
11-16-2006, 04:18 PM
I think writing is a bit different cause it takes quite a while to learn how to write right with your dominate hand in the first place but in the case of playing a game that's pretty simple to pick up and teach your hand how to do I learned how to play pool with my left hand and I'm sure you can pick up a controller with and play with your right hand perty easily too

Kryce
11-17-2006, 08:32 AM
wtf???

i am left handed and i use always the standard controls (right handed?)

i don't see it, how can you use the buttons X,Y,A,B(on xbox)
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RetiredHatch
11-18-2006, 05:25 PM
don't see it, how can you use the buttons X,Y,A,B(on xbox)
if you need your right hand for walking?

that's exactly what i'm wondering

noleaf
11-19-2006, 05:20 AM
depending on the game, A/B/X/Y are usually less critical things that you don't have to use while walking (that's what the triggers and bumpers are for), but whe you do need to use them then you can either stretch your thumb to A/B/X or use the 'claw' technique that us lefties sometimes use, where you can use your index and/or middle finger to operate the face buttons. the more preferred solution is to have the face buttons remapped to the d-pad (left/right/up/down). but believe me, using those buttons is the least of our worries - aiming with our preferred hand is far more important, because without aiming accuracy you have nothing at all.

Slythar
11-19-2007, 04:51 PM
So does this game have southpaw settings? I don't want to waste my money.

ivtec213
12-25-2007, 09:35 PM
Has there been an answer to this question yet. I have just received a PS3 from my wife for xmas and an Assasins Creed game along with this. I know UBI Soft has herd these complaints before. I know they fixed the problem with GRAW. I don't understand why they would ever come out with a game that is expected to be so popular and not include better control options.The only reason they wouldn't add these controls opt's. is if they thought it wasn't cost effective. But after seeing so many forums on southpaw controls there has to be a huge market they aren't getting when they put out these games. I think there aren't enough of us being more vocal about it to these console companies or the game companies like UBI soft. With my 360 I had no problem finding someone to reconfigure the controls. I have searched today and haven't been able to find anyone that can do the same for a ps3 controller. Does anyone know of someone or a site that is taking these type of orders?

Royal.Mist
12-25-2007, 10:39 PM
7-10% of all people are left handed.

How many of them buy video games?

I would personally not waste time including a south paw configuration so the extreme minority of people playing my game won't have to spend time becoming ambi-dextrous.

Besides, it's a fact that left handed people die on average 5 years earlier than everyone else.

dirtybird21
12-25-2007, 10:41 PM
Left handed people are the devil!

ivtec213
12-26-2007, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Royal.Mist:
7-10% of all people are left handed.

How many of them buy video games?

I would personally not waste time including a south paw configuration so the extreme minority of people playing my game won't have to spend time becoming ambi-dextrous.

Besides, it's a fact that left handed people die on average 5 years earlier than everyone else.
I'm not left handed. I was asking about southpaw controls. If you had read the prior posts you would know what I was talking about, genius. If your using society as a sample you have to apply that same percentage on gamers (you really are brilliant). Since when has 7 to 10 percent of anything become extreme minority ? There seriously needs to be more moderators to weed out 12 year olds from posting in these forums.

zgubilici
12-26-2007, 10:30 AM
Royal.Mist, you've been warned before about the manner of your posting.
This is your final warning. If you have something constructive/useful to add to a thread then do so - otherwise, refrain from offending comments and the like that you've been displaying around the forums.

dirtybird21, please post constructively from now on.
Thanks.

ivtec213
12-26-2007, 11:54 AM
I take back the comment about the moderators. Apparently there is a quick response. I don't think anyone can really tell how many people this is actually affecting because there are many gamers who originally started playing these first person shooter console games with the southpaw controls. N64 games like Turok, and Golden Eye had them as one of the default controls. I just don't think companies should automatically assume they are not loosing a significant number of sales, because this has nothing to do with being left or right handed.

luke100
12-26-2007, 02:10 PM
im lefted handed
dont be so dumb

AldirTheKnight
12-26-2007, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
I guess i just figure left-handed people played with the same control options that right-hanged people do


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif


i'm left-handed and I've never had any problems with game controls

I even play guitars like a righty (real ones)

spazzoo1025
12-26-2007, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by TraceurX:
I think that if I needed to, I could adapt to using southpaw, like the guy a few posts up said. Basically, you can learn to do anything left or right handed. In parkour, you cant jst say "i always do this valt going over left", because you may find a situation where you need to do that vault going over right. sure, you'll always have a more natural side, but you can become almost, if not as good, with things the other way round if you simply apply yourself. basically, if you care that much, just learn to not use southpaw.<div class="ev_tpc_signature"><br/><br/>When a man fights for his heart, he cares not about the size of his opponent. If he is in love, he will find a way.

ur just showing off bc u do parkour n i land on my face when i try to go off a home-made ramp on my skates http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

AirRon_2K7
12-26-2007, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by entropy777:
<span class="ev_code_GREY">So what you're saying is that instead of taking an hour and a half to make a southpaw set of controls you'd confine them to playing with right handed controls even though it never will be as easy?

That sounds a bit facist to me..</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature"><br/><br/>The enthusiasm of a woman's love is even beyond the biographer's. -Jane Austen, Mansfield Park.

It definately wouldn't take an hour and a half to configure, code and distribute southpaw controls >_>

But to get to the point, it should be added, but it isn't necesary really. There is no precision aiming in Assassin's Creed, so the main issue with the lack of Southpaw is demolished. Yes, I agree with the majority of the posters in the fact that it is reasonably easy to get used to normal controls, yet I think a southpaw option would be cool.

And to Royal's "fact", if you read your 'interesting facts' page correctly, you'd notice that it isn't just "fact", there are contributing factors that affect the life expectancy of Southpaws... it isn't just set in stone...

Can I say moron on a forum?

AldirTheKnight
12-26-2007, 03:12 PM
yeah

ivtec213
12-26-2007, 04:00 PM
To ask someone to simply re-learn a control style is a hell of a lot easier said than done. It would be like learning to walk again, and that is not what I usually look for in a game. Here is an intesting blog I found while searching for southpaw controllers. http://lawofthegame.blogspot.com/2007/08/southpaw-manifesto.html
I apologize in advance if I might be breaking any rules of this forum.
I hope posting links are allowed.

spazzoo1025
12-26-2007, 04:12 PM
I apologize in advance if I might be braking any rules of this forum.


u just broke rule #1: Spelling stuff not good!

lol grammar doesn't fall under that category

Faylinks
12-26-2007, 04:48 PM
i dont understand... al you can switch is the thumsticks and trigger, and there in the same position for each finger, left handed or right handed, there the same bottons.

the only way i can see somone left handed wanting the A B X Y bottons on the other side.

take the violin for an example, there are no left violins in the orchestra, you would be facing the rong way from everyone else. but lefthanded people play violin, and have no trouble. its just getting used to it. your left and right hand are olmost exactly the same, the only reason people are "right" or "left" handed is because they use them more.

and btw left-handed people die sooner then righthanded people overall.