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AirForceOne_
03-20-2004, 05:15 PM
what joystick do u guys recommend that is not too cheap and not too espensive that is popular and great!

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AirForceOne_
03-20-2004, 05:15 PM
what joystick do u guys recommend that is not too cheap and not too espensive that is popular and great!

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CO_Eagle_31stFG
03-20-2004, 05:32 PM
Look into Saitek sticks
Cyborg 3D Gold
Cyborg Evo
X45

all good sticks I prefer the 3D Gold and the Evo

Tully__
03-20-2004, 05:37 PM
Also check out CH Products and Thrustmaster (and Microsoft if you can still find any). While the Saiteks are good sticks (I use one), joysticks are a very personal choice so it pays to make sure you get one that suits you.

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HellToupee
03-20-2004, 05:40 PM
i got myself a logitech extreme 3d pro to replace my $ precision 2 that refused to work anymore.

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crazyivan1970
03-20-2004, 05:45 PM
X45 Hands down.

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Huxley_S
03-20-2004, 05:51 PM
The Saitek Rumble Force is a good stick and quite cheap.

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JG7_Rall
03-20-2004, 06:00 PM
Stay away from logitech. Great feel and great button layout but the pots wear out so fast that in only a few months (or even less) you're plane will start moving without any imput from you-mostly snapping left or right. Saiteks, CH, and Thrustmaster are all supposed to be great but I'm getting a M$ stick to replace my 3D pro..can't wait either!

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HellToupee
03-20-2004, 06:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
Stay away from logitech. Great feel and great button layout but the pots wear out so fast that in only a few months (or even less) you're plane will start moving without any imput from you-mostly snapping left or right. Saiteks, CH, and Thrustmaster are all supposed to be great but I'm getting a M$ stick to replace my 3D pro..can't wait either!

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no dont say that! just got one, only decent thing i could find in nearby retail shops.

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Bearcat99
03-20-2004, 07:55 PM
I would say the best bang for the buck is the Saitek X45. It is a very programmable stick.... it it's comfortable..at least for me.

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Mitlov47
03-20-2004, 08:37 PM
I had a very bad experience with a Logitech wearing out quickly and sending random inputs to the computer. It made IL-2 absolutely unplayable.

Now I'm flying with a Saitek Cyborg Evo, which runs $40. It doesn't have massive gadgets or force-feedback, but the build quality is very good, the ergonomics are adjustible, and it is fully ambidextrous. I highly recommend it.

Also, buy your joystick from somewhere like Circuit City where you can get a store warranty (the warranty for my Saitek lasts two years, covers all problems, and cost $4.99).

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MO_JOJO
03-20-2004, 10:13 PM
I found a great deal on an X45, but there is some risk, which I don't mind for the price. Saitek website store occasionally has refurbished equipment, which sells for half price. My X45 is brand new (probably an impulse shopper who returned the thing) and I only paid $40 plus 7 in shipping. It's not a deal for everyone, but it was for me.

RedDeth
03-21-2004, 01:46 AM
i bought a logitech and 3 weeks after i bought it the dang thing started my planes snap rolling every other plane i flew. it was so bad i threw it away. brand new. i found a new ms precision pro for 65 bucks which was 25 over retail. i paid it .

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RevvinUK
03-21-2004, 01:56 AM
You might want to consider CH Products, if you were to price up a complete HOTAS then it would work out a few hundred dollars but the good thing about CH sticks is that you don't have to buy the stick and throttle right away. For instance you could buy the Fighterstick, Combatstick or Flightstick and get the Pro rudders pedals and use the throttle wheel on the base of the stick or get one of the joysticks and the Pro Throttle and use the mouse stick on the Pro Throttle for rudder input or just get one of the sticks and buy the other devices as you can afford them if your budget is an issue. Even with just a stick you benefit from the great programmability and durability that the CH sticks offer. If you buy them one at a time you know that you're buying quality kit that will build into IMO the best HOTAS available. I might add you'll also find support from CH Products and a selection of profiles for IL-2 at the site in my signature below.

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oFZo
03-21-2004, 04:06 AM
A friend spilled his beer over my joystick (and wireless keyboard, and wireless optical mouse http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif).
I've been looking in all the 15 computer shops in my area (20 km radius) and couldn't find one decent FF stick http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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Bull_Pup
03-21-2004, 06:41 AM
imo there isnt a worthwhile ffb stick on the market, but I'm very particular.

I'm praying CH produces a ffb stick.

Please take a moment to stop by CH and vote in their new product poll. They are considering manufacturing a ffb stick.

there are two poll's, one on the main page and a sticky thread in the forums.

http://www.ch-hangar.com/news.php

Im a huge FFB fan, but Im holding out for either a CH or X45 with ffb.

Lav69
03-21-2004, 06:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AirForceOne_:
what joystick do u guys recommend that is not too cheap and not too espensive that is popular and great!

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Saitek X45 (stick and throttle) for $80 bucks is a great deal.

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RevvinUK
03-21-2004, 06:56 AM
If you want to vote in that poll just vote in the one on the front page of the site as it does'nt require you to sign up or log in. It's a copy of the poll posted by CH Products in the forums, they are monitoring the feedback to that poll so you have the chance to show CH Products that you're favourite controller type in that list is worth considering for future release.

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Kampfmeister
03-21-2004, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by oFZo:
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A friend spilled his beer over my joystick (and wireless keyboard, and wireless optical mouse http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif).
I've been looking in all the 15 computer shops in my area (20 km radius) and couldn't find one decent FF stick http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

-oFZo

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I've always heard from people on this forum that the MS FF2 is or was the best FF stick on the market. I'd like to get one to replace my MS Precision Pro 2. Too bad they don't make them anymore, but lately I have been seeing more and more of them on Ebay. Unfortunately the new and used ones are going for $100 or more by the time the bidding is complete. For that price you might as well get a CH stick. I've been looking at getting a Saitek 3D Force stick now. Depending on where you buy it from, the prices range from $40 to $60.

pterodactyl77
03-21-2004, 12:11 PM
i have the ThrustMaster Top Gun Fox 2 Pro, USB, and that is a pretty decent stick. It cost about $30 (US dollars) and while I had some intiial problems, their customer service was great to replace it and it works awesome now. Great programability and price.

Vortex_uk
03-21-2004, 01:43 PM
I got a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro and havn't had any problems with it. The one that i don't recommend buying is the Logitech Freedom 2.4 Cordless... its always losing its signal no matter how close the the remote it is. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

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clover4
03-21-2004, 02:20 PM
I dont see much here about microsoft sticks.I used the precision 2 and paid around $29 .
I couldnt fault the stick and it seemed to be able to take abuse.They do a force feedback for a few more dollars if thats what you want.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/sidewinder/Joysticks.asp (Microsoft sticks)

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Teufel_Eldritch
03-21-2004, 03:44 PM
I use the MS Precision 2 as well. I do not like it. The original MS Precision had a SHIFT button which turned your 8 button jstick into a 16 button jstick. I used to have an original but it died. Since I liked the first one so much I went to the store & purchased the 'New & Improved!' MS Precision 2. Yea right.... improved my butt! They removed the SHIFT button! I dont like how MS 'improves' things. Now Im looking foward to getting a X45.

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RedDeth
03-21-2004, 07:31 PM
MICROSOFT DOES NOT MAKE OR SELL ANY JOYSTICKS ANYMORE ANYWHERE. you cant buy them or find them . they are no more.

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Kampfmeister
03-21-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by RedDeth:
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MICROSOFT DOES NOT MAKE OR SELL ANY JOYSTICKS ANYMORE ANYWHERE. you cant buy them or find them . they are no more.
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I didn't know they stopped making joysticks all together, I thought they just discontinued the force feedback line? Anyway, you can still find MS sticks on the internet. Like I said before, the MS FFB2 will probably run you around $100 or more depending on it's condition and who you buy it from.

Teufel_Eldritch
03-22-2004, 01:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedDeth:
MICROSOFT DOES NOT MAKE OR SELL ANY JOYSTICKS ANYMORE ANYWHERE. you cant buy them or find them . they are no more.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Good! Serves them right! Im so angry with MS for 'improving' my stick that the fact that they no longer make jsticks makes me chuckle. MS must not have impressed many ppl with its jstick line or else they would still be milking them for all they are worth. You dont kick a cash cow to the curb.

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9th Trespa
03-22-2004, 05:02 AM
try x45 hotas , so with throttle controll, you wont have any hands left to use mouseview, so when u dont mind looking in game with hat try it , or buy track ir too, i got that all and it rocks, real 3d inviro awareness

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