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Enforcer572005
09-05-2005, 09:06 PM
Greetings comrades, I am Major Ivanov Enforcerski, a retired marshall in the people's air arm, inviting you to join in the valiant fight against the fascist hordes who have invaded the Rodino in a blatant act of agression (not to mention burning bridges with supposed friends-sheeesh). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

This is the first 21 misn cmpn in a series of 3 planned cmpns that constist of the Soviet fighter cmpn (70 misns overall) in the original issue of IL-2 Sturmovik as it was released 4 yrs ago. These were not the bland auto generated misns we have now, but static cmpns that went into a great deal of detail from the historical perspective. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

We have rewritten them to portray my role as executive officer of the illustrious 120th fighter regiment fighting at Smolensk from the first day of the war in summer of 41, to the defense of Moscow, to the miserable siege at Stalingrad in early 43, named after that maniac we were saddled with as a leader back then. I can say such things now, but you will see what happened to my poor regimental commander when he badmouthed comrade Joe.

You will fly various marks of the I-16 at Smolensk, advancing to some of the first Lagg-3s in the Moscow defense, then later models over Stalingrad. The historical timeline is preserved, but the aircraft and other weapons are a bit more appropriate and accurate for the time.

I would show you some gun camera footage, but we were not as rich as the Americans or the British, so we did not have gun cameras. As usual, we will improvise and make do, in this case with some screenies (as you spoiled capitalists call them). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You start out at Smolensk on the second day of Operation Barbarrosa, facing impossible odds in obsolete crates against better trained pilots in more modern planes. (dont get impatient, im getting the images).

Well, as comrade Euro-Snoopski so eloquently points out, you can find this great piece of propaganda at airwarfare.....this is why we have beta testers, to tell us when we overlook obvious stuff.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

anyway, you will start out having to escort many of our obsolete bombers, like these TB-3 refugees from the Jurasic period.....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/escortingTB3.jpg

Enforcer572005
09-05-2005, 09:06 PM
Greetings comrades, I am Major Ivanov Enforcerski, a retired marshall in the people's air arm, inviting you to join in the valiant fight against the fascist hordes who have invaded the Rodino in a blatant act of agression (not to mention burning bridges with supposed friends-sheeesh). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

This is the first 21 misn cmpn in a series of 3 planned cmpns that constist of the Soviet fighter cmpn (70 misns overall) in the original issue of IL-2 Sturmovik as it was released 4 yrs ago. These were not the bland auto generated misns we have now, but static cmpns that went into a great deal of detail from the historical perspective. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

We have rewritten them to portray my role as executive officer of the illustrious 120th fighter regiment fighting at Smolensk from the first day of the war in summer of 41, to the defense of Moscow, to the miserable siege at Stalingrad in early 43, named after that maniac we were saddled with as a leader back then. I can say such things now, but you will see what happened to my poor regimental commander when he badmouthed comrade Joe.

You will fly various marks of the I-16 at Smolensk, advancing to some of the first Lagg-3s in the Moscow defense, then later models over Stalingrad. The historical timeline is preserved, but the aircraft and other weapons are a bit more appropriate and accurate for the time.

I would show you some gun camera footage, but we were not as rich as the Americans or the British, so we did not have gun cameras. As usual, we will improvise and make do, in this case with some screenies (as you spoiled capitalists call them). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You start out at Smolensk on the second day of Operation Barbarrosa, facing impossible odds in obsolete crates against better trained pilots in more modern planes. (dont get impatient, im getting the images).

Well, as comrade Euro-Snoopski so eloquently points out, you can find this great piece of propaganda at airwarfare.....this is why we have beta testers, to tell us when we overlook obvious stuff.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

anyway, you will start out having to escort many of our obsolete bombers, like these TB-3 refugees from the Jurasic period.....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/escortingTB3.jpg

EURO_Snoopy
09-05-2005, 09:15 PM
Comrade Major how may our brothers and sisters fight for the motherland without the tools?
Here is da linki (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns.htm#035) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Enforcer572005
09-05-2005, 09:26 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gifAnyway Comrades, most of our bombers have no escorts and must make massed daylight attacks with predictable results....you must learn to ignore the cries of your countrymen while defending your charges; thier sacrifice will be in vain if you go to thier aid, as really happened in the early days. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/SB2breakoff109ebehind.jpg

You will sometimes have help in various forms, including the brave heroes from the 3rd squadron of your mixed regiment, though they are in even more obsolete mounts than you....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/I153109breakingoff.jpg

If you use proper tactics and shoot well, you can overcome the fascist's advantages....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/I16flamed109.jpg

though the unexpected seems to happen often....such are the dangers of close in combat at low level, especially if you tarry in breaking off. Fortunately, Comrade Poliparkov designed some very rugged machines.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/I16wingdamageblowingupkill.jpg

And though thier planes are outclassed and they suffer horrible losses, do not underestimate the courage of the heroes flying them in the 3rd squadron, as this Aryan invader did.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/109bailout.jpg

No matter your efforts and sacrifices, it is often impossible to protect the bombers when you are so outnumbered by skilled, determined opponents. You must buy time with your lives....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/TB3engineblastedoff.jpg

But don't whine Comrades, as our boys on the ground are dying by entire armies at a time, as they are even more outgunned and outclassed. It's hard to take on German high velocity 50s, 75s and 88s with lousy 37 and 45mm popguns.....
every thing you do is in support of these brave heroes.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/7tpba10burningbehind.jpg

But take heart comrades, as you will get new mounts upon your retreat to the Moscow defense line, if you can take heart at flying machines that are referred to as "varnished flying coffins". You will, as always, fly a variety of missions, but the most important will be bomber intercepts against endless waves of Heinkels and Junkers.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/LaggHeattack.jpg

The siege of Moscow lasts into the winter, as the new Napoleon tries to change history, but winds up repeating it, since those who fail to remember the past are condemned to repeat it.http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Laggbreakoffburninghe111belowstgd.jpg

XyZspineZyX
09-05-2005, 10:26 PM
Looks awesome, do you need combined 4.01 to run it or will FB-AEP 2.04 do the job?

Enforcer572005
09-05-2005, 10:33 PM
You will need the combined install of all 3 patched to 4.01, since I decided to make use of as much stuff as possible.....there was just some neat toys that I had to employ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

And comrades, you will wind up fighting the enemy over the gates of Stalingrad, in an improved version of your wooden wonder Lagg. If the Luftwaffe doesn't kill you, the heat and the cold probably willhttp://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/109insitepilotbailing1.jpg .

You will even get the opportunity to fly the experimental IT Lagg, equipped with an anti-tank gun. This comes in handy when you are trying to cut the airborne artery that supplies the German 6th army.....can you make a liar out of ***** Hermann?
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/La3itbagsgigants.jpg

But you must avoid the escorts comrade, as this machine flies like the tank that it is.....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/la.jpg

At least the 3rd squdrn has new mounts also over Stalingrad, thier new Migs being equipped with rockets, if they can get close enough to hit anything with them.....
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Migmassiveexplosioninheformation.jpg

And you must beware of getting TOO close, as midairs will result; however, you can always do what I did and claim that you were using the ramming tactic, if you get out quick enough.....Pravda will print that everytime and keep you out of trouble with the brass. Amazing the power those zampolis (political officers) had. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/spectacularmidair.jpg

papotex
09-06-2005, 12:33 AM
so where do i get it?

FlatSpinMan
09-06-2005, 12:54 AM
@papotex, see the link in the second or third post.
@Enforcer, just tried the first mission. Nice work on the base environment, I liked the rag-tag feel of all the different planes. the ambulances were a good touch and tied in with your briefing well. The briefing itself made me laugh too. I got one heinkel, hit another but as usual got too aggressive and took on the five 109s with predictable results. have to do it again but it was enjoyable. I liked the camera over the base as well, showed the bombing effects perfectly.

Monson74
09-06-2005, 12:56 AM
LMAO http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dunkelgrun
09-06-2005, 01:07 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Thanks Enforcer, I'll go and get it, always liked the original IL-2 campaigns.

One question - what did you do to reduce the size of the on-screen text? It appears mightily reduced, and that's not a bad thing!

Cheers!

FlatSpinMan
09-06-2005, 09:23 AM
About three missions in. I like it. I think the camera positions are a good idea. It is pretty tough going though (which is the whole idea, I know) as there are always more Blue than Red. I like how they appear at different points on the map so you're always unsure what is coming, especially on the homeward leg.

-HH-Dubbo
09-06-2005, 12:41 PM
Finally.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Achilles_NZ
09-06-2005, 02:35 PM
Kewl screenies mate!
Awesome job breathing new life into this campaign. Far better than the original. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

fabianfred
09-06-2005, 06:41 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/109bailout.jpg

I always thought it was a German who invented Windsurfing...

huggy87
09-06-2005, 06:49 PM
Looks Great. I can't wait to play it. I think I'll wait till I get my new machine next month.

Enforcer572005
09-06-2005, 06:54 PM
Comrade Dunkelgren, I have no idea why the text is small, It has just always been this way.....I have no idea how to change this.

Fabian Fred, yes, this is rather inspirational, as the 109 pilot appears to be about to make a swan dive in the olympics or something. Apparently the Germans faint dead away at the sight of the VVS......and if you believe that, I want to sell you some prime realestate in siberia. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ok, back to the briefing....and to some war stories from yours truly. The hairiest sortie I ever flew was late in the Smolensk cmpn, when we were evacuating the field under heavy artillery bombardment and were suddenly overun by an armored recon unit, while being attacked by the Luftwaffe at the same moment; what youv'e heard about German timing is true, they are nothing if not punctual.

The Panzers broke through the perimeter quickly despite a spirited defense by the red guardsmen. T-38s and Mark-4s came rumbling towards the flight line shooting up the escaping collums while 109s and 110s straffed everything in sight.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/T38sadvanceoneburning.jpg

I was the lead plane, and I struggled to get into the air as the world exploded around me.....I felt helpless as I saw many comrades die horribly out of the corner of my eye. We had to protect the transports carrying the rest of the staff, keep the fighters off the escaping convoys with the support people, then fly to a field behind the forming Moscow defense line to the north.

First I had to get airborne and protect my 2 wingmen and the 3rd squdrn flight of Chaikas as they lifted off. I nearly hit some panicking soldiers as they ran across the runway in front of me to escape the flames of thier burning fuel trucks.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/I16takeoffsmol7explodingburningvehs.jpg

A 110 made a run on me as I lifted off, but I turned the tables on him as he overshot and blew him to blazes from beneath. I couldn't believe how low these guys were flying at speed. They were truly a gallant enemy in combat.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/reallylow110.jpg

I clawed for altitude as I cranked on the gear retract handle with all I had. Apparently the resulting unstable path I flew kept me alive long enough to get some speed up. I looked over my shoulder and saw everything exploding.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/I16escapingburningfieldsmol7.jpg

We fought like madmen to protect our friends from these merciless marauders, but we could only do so much as we were totally overwhelmed. One of the transports was hit and crashed on the runway. It had the entire nursing staff from the field hospital. Before the night was out, they were put to work in a Berlin officer's brothel or used for medical experiments in those god-awful camps. After this the war became personal and very bitter to me. The rest of the transports made it, but were immiediately set upon by those Luftwaffe buzzards. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Li2gearcollapsingontakeoffsmol7.jpg

We knew what we had to do, and coordinated our efforts to good effect, as we became as hard as our tanks. The People's Air Force emphasises what you decadant westerners call teamwork, as if it were some sort of sports collective. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/i-153help.jpg

The escaping ground collumns make for the nearby crossroads at the village close to the base. Here our troops have set up a defense, and cameras are placed where you can actually look down the sights of machine guns and anti-tank guns. Some are set to defend the RR crossing, while the 76mm guns are set up to engage panzers as they top the crest of the hill and fire into thier underbellies, like that scene in the movie "battle of the Bulge".
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/maximatrdblock.jpg

The collumns managed to escape, but many died on the way to the village, with Panzers in hot pursuit. The Germans were finally halted long enough as our boys sacrificed themselves to delay them. At least we finally got something from that backwater besides the clap.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/airbaseevac.jpg

Run for it Fritz! Those are Soviet bullets you are trying to avoid! They die as quickly as we do.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/FritzhaulingA.jpg

-HH-Dubbo
09-07-2005, 11:31 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Bump

Enforcer572005
09-07-2005, 08:33 PM
Thank you comrade Dubboski....now the briefing will continue.

YURI! Stop messing with the projector! Your sense of humor has confounded me since Smolensk!
Yuri was my wingman through most of the Great Patriotic War, but he now seeks revenge for me ordering him into those hordes of 109s while I went after bombers. You will note his appearance is quite horrid since his misadventure with a burning Cobra over the Kuban. Perhaps he is trying to get your mind off it.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Scan534.jpg

For what it is worth, this is one of my original photos, and 8x10 prints can be had for modest cost if anyone wants to really irritate thier wife.

Now, your misns over moscow start with defending the retreating peoples' army as it regroups south of the capital. Here, a BT-7 battalion retreats across a river as guardsmen cover them from pursuing Germans. You must protect bombers as they disrupt the Nazi advance.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/rdblockbt7retreating75mmblocked-sdb.jpg

Once the perimeter is established, you will fight into the winter, flying all types of misns, going from escort to intercept. These Luftwaffe guys just keep coming. And our guys keep on meeting them, but at great cost.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/he111closesitepictailgonestalngd.jpg

Kuna15
09-07-2005, 08:45 PM
He he nice comrade Enforcerski. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I will czech it out asap.

In the meantime one quick logo from leader to boost morale
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Kuna15/Funny/supercomrades.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Enforcer572005
09-07-2005, 08:59 PM
Thank you Comrade Kuna....leave it to you guys to appreciate such decadence.....I only took 2 rolls of film; lots of interesting things at American airshows.

Anyway, our opponents have captured many of our best bases, which you will have to escort attack planes to. But don't be discouraged by the skill of your opponents, as even the master race must occaisionally poop.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/krautouthouse.jpg

FlatSpinMan
09-07-2005, 09:09 PM
Love the mission reports! That one where you have to take off from a base under attack looks great but I'm not up to that yet. I'm surprised more campaigns don't feature something like that. Good stuff.

Enforcer572005
09-07-2005, 09:32 PM
Thanks Comrade Flatspinmanski, I wanted a little excitement, and my adventures during the Great Patriotic War are based upon reality, albeit somewhat generalized.

Keep in mind comrades that you will suffer damage to your aircraft, as will many of your fellow pilots, especially the attack guys. If you crash, it is best to unass your mount as quickly as possible, especially if you crash on the runway and more damaged planes are coming in. This is how the commander of the 2cd squadron met his demise, thinking he could keep his Lagg intact and not be penalized in the reports for losing a plane.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/crashedlaggSU2careeningoffrnwayfrf2.jpg

Instead, He met his fate as a damaged SU-2 went out of control and hit the ambulance parked next to his plane.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/careengSU2aftermathevry1diesbigblas.jpg

Our brave bomber crews continue to sacrifice themselves in defence of the capitol, made all the more tragic by the use of outmoded equipment. Casualties are in the 60% range within a week, and even the vaunted 120th must at times operate at 33% strength. The American General Sherman was correct; war is truly all h#ll.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/propoffTB3closeup.jpg

Enforcer572005
09-08-2005, 05:30 PM
Now for the final section of the slide show comrades. Your third adventure is at the h@llhole known as stalingrad. You will start flying in unbearable heat as the weather goes to blazes. Our troops were ferried across the river Volga and came under constant artillery and air attack; the Stukas come in an unending stream it seemed at the time, often coming in low in the foulest of weather. Our AA crew were limited in thier effect, so it was up to our fighters to stop them-no matter how bad the weather.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Stukadivingonvolga.jpg

The barges and trawlers that carry the Red Army suffered terribly at the hands of the Stukas, many hundreds of our men meeting thier watery end on the Volga. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/nearmissesonbargesvolga.jpg

And of course, you will assist the many Sturmoviks as they bleed our Nazi enemy severely, and are themselves bled by determined, if less numerous, Luftwaffe pilots.
Here a 1941 field mod recovers at whats left of one of our bases we've just retaken from the enemy. Amazing how hardy the gunners were exposed to the cold with just a canvas strap to sit on in those early IL-2s. You must keep as many of those crews alive as possible, as they are vital to our effort. Your base is also shared with a green PVO regiment equipped with RAF handme-downs;they flew often with us in support, and I even flew a mission with them once to show them how it was done, as you will see.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/IL2onapproachlastmisn.jpg

So ends our presentation comrades. I hope that those of you with the courage to fight against great odds will flock to the steppes of my motherland, which you will recall, gave us this sim in the first place. We hope to have part 2 availible in a more reasonable time (before Christmas hopefullY)as this has been a learning experience for us. In it, you will fight over the Kuban in that long battle of attrition, and at Kursk, where the new Napoleon lost his gamble.
Also, if you re-enlist, you may have the priveledge of flying alongside one of our more successful women pilots. NO, this is not Yuri playing games again....she is too well dressed for his questionable tastes. However, this photo was taken a few years later, after she defected across the Bearing Straights to the Americans. Didn't you see that stupid John Wayne movie called "Jet Pilot"? I bet you thought Janet Leigh's character was fictional, didn't you?
At least she appears to have built in flotation devices....there is a reason they call those things Mae Wests you know.(the flotation devices that is) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Scan383.jpg

We hope we are able to give you a taste of service in the greatest air war in history, fought on a vast scale. Your fellow capitalist Comrades HH Dubbo and Achilles NZ tested these efforts and made heroic contributions to the cause. Comrade HH Zeuse helped with a major tech problem, and Comrade Bird Brain gave much help in the form of advice logistics. Many of our distinguished collective provided much assistance on the mission builders forum. Now get moving, there is a war to fight, and may you die well.

Old_Canuck
09-09-2005, 12:54 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Looks like fun, Enforcer, and it's getting good reviews already so how can anyone resist. Looking forward to this one. Thanks for all the hard work.

gorillasika
09-09-2005, 04:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
Comrade Dunkelgren, I have no idea why the text is small, It has just always been this way.....I have no idea how to change this.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bigger resolution -&gt; smaller (finer) text
Lower resolution -&gt; bigger text

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You will sometimes have help in various forms, including the brave heroes from the 3rd squadron of your mixed regiment, though they are in even more obsolete mounts than you.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In fact I-16 was earlier design than I-153

Back to topic: nice looking campaign, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Enforcer572005
09-09-2005, 06:20 PM
Thanks for the response guys. That explains the odd fact that the I-153 has retracts while the I-16 has manual gear, but the 153 was based on the earlier I-15 series of biplanes with fixed gear, and was an attempt to modernize the design. It was probably the most advanced biplane fighter in history, and in the sim, the performance in close combat isnt bad, just slow, which seems to be realistic from what Ive read.

Using bi-planes against monoplanes, even wiht retracts, is kinda like using revolvers against automatics (handguns that is). You may very well win, but you are outgunned, as they just cant compete in matches wiht them. It was an amazing design though, and i was gonna use it but there were take off issues that I didnt have time to fool wiht. If I redo the original sturmovik cmpn, i may start wiht the 153.

Theres at least one I-15 fighter on the airshow circuit, and several I-153 and I-16s restored by a rusn company from a shot up hulk I think.Most of them may be in New Zealand, or at least the photos of them ive seen were taken there-maybe Achilles NZ would know about that. the original I-15 Would be a neat plane to have in the sim. I would have preferred it myself to the avia design we are getting, but that's no big deal. Those poliparkov designs were fascinating.

Enforcer572005
09-12-2005, 05:34 PM
Ok, for what its worth, Im starting Pt.2, which will see you flying various P-39 versions and La-5 versions over the Kuban and at Kursk among other places. Little has been written about the massive Kuban air cpmn, but it was almost all air wiht little movement on the ground, so not as much ground stuff, but huge air battles, sorto of like the BoB.

Kursk of course will have alot of ground combat, as it was the biggest armored battle of WW2.

Im kinda curious, have any of you guys finished the cmpn or gotten a bit farther afield than 3 misns? Im curious as to the what was liked and what was a pain, as i think computer speed may have alot to do with that. Ive not seen any elaboration in a few days. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

FlatSpinMan
09-12-2005, 07:52 PM
Wife is away for a few days so I'll be able to do a few more missions and let you know. the prospect of having a decent plane to fly sounds tempting. I like the odd planes we get in this sim but a bit of speed and climb-ability never hurt anyone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Any thoughts on using custom skins in Pt2 (hint, hint?

Enforcer572005
09-12-2005, 10:10 PM
Thanks there Flatspinman, and yes, there will be several custom skins im collecting, as there were alot of paint jobs in use over the Kuban etc, and the stock P400 and P-39D skins are not appropriate for this theatre-the stock D model skin is way too dark, even for american planes. that od faded pretty fast. And the Ruskies ( i love that term http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) were the first to utilize the P-400 version to any extent. Lots of aircraft types in this next one,wiht many of the famous aces on both sides in combat there, as the Kuban had everybody using everything-that would make a great cmpn by itself.

I think you may see a couple of combos you havent seen before in a cmpn (not the ones ive flown anyway). Like Chuck Older showed us wiht WTCF, you can improvise alot in this sim, as hollywood often does when the right equipment isnt around. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

FlatSpinMan
09-13-2005, 12:36 AM
Hey, Enforcer,I just did up until no 6 or 7. I really liked the evacuation mission, especially the beginning with shells exploding all around. If I make a campaign I'm going to steal that idea. In the prior mission the bomber needing to land urgently was cool, too. The environment in this campaign really is more alive than in almost every other campaign I have played.i'm off to baseball tonight but will update you again soon. I'm enjoying it, man.


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FlatSpinMan
09-13-2005, 10:48 AM
This is a really fun campaign. I can definitely recommend it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.
I just got my hands on the LaGG-3 and that makes things easier. I haven't flown it much but after a a couple of QMBs to see its armament and stall characteristics i fired up the campaign and wreaked havoc on the 110s and 111s. Not that many kills(okay, 2, if you must know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) but forced them away from the target and messed them up pretty good. I have had a couple of great low level, racing above the roof tops fights in this campaign so far, as well as getting some beautiful(in my opinion)diving deflection shots in. Got to love the hitting power of these planes.The LaGG does all you need it to, without the unfortunate loss of engine power when the nose dips as in the I-16.bedtime now but definitely back in teh seat tomorrow.

Kuna15
09-13-2005, 02:48 PM
LaGG is an awesome improvement over I-16... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LaGG is sturdy fighter capable of enduring great deal of battle damage, and that makes it a good fighter ground pounder; I've in fact taken many damage during such missions and managed to rtb most of the times.

Aircraft is very agile, just must be taken care when in dive; especially in bad weather (when aircraft is shaking), if speed increases rapidly there can be structural damage to aircraft. Generally when I look at speed gauge I try to limit it on maybe a bit over 600kph, if it isn't absolutely neccesary to go faster.

Sometimes during scissors manoeuver when throttle is set to 0% and then in turn firewall it (without much pressure on stick), it can get into nasty stall.

major_setback
09-13-2005, 03:23 PM
How do I install it? Do I unzip it straight into the FB/PF folder, or into a campaign folder??
Answers very much appreciated. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks in advance.

major-setback.

Enforcer572005
09-13-2005, 09:38 PM
it doesnt have an installer, so just unzip it into a folder somewhere first, then go into that folder and you will see the VVS folder....

take the folder named VVS and place it in your RU cmpn folder...

this will be in the missions folder. find missns/cmpn/RU and place it in the RU folder. then you assign it a new pilot and go into the career mode to start it up. In the VVS folder you will see the read me file, and it gives detailed instructions on such, including how to set your controls and difficulty etc. remember, you have to assign manual landing gear controls, as outlined in the readme file. if yo hve any trouble, let me know here.

and yes guys, the Lagg is an improvement, though the engine kinda overheats easily. And if you start approaching 580 kph or mmore you will start losing control surfaces around 600. After blasting an He in a misn i got bounced by those d@mn aces in 109s and dove for it. finally got away but lost both my ailerons doiong it and didnt realize it until i glanced out the canopy. landing that way was kinda hairy.

Wait till you get to stalingrad and fly the 35 series where you sometimes get a 23mm. wow...

i like the last smolensk misn to...ive flown it a million times and it never goes the same way twice. wait till you hit one of those little runnin guys. i had to move the fuel truck convoy a bit further away to get off the ground. if you record a track and wathch the ground action you may be surprised at waht you see, especially if you check the two cameras at the village the convoys are escaping through. theres an epic fight at the RR crossing.

Glad you guys are liking it. im trying to figure out what works and what the most popular features are, as im working on Pt2 now.

oh and i forgot....you can put them in the single misns folder and there you can see the actual misn name and the preamble...dunno why thats not visible in career mode. i meant to add those to the briefing screen but i forgot.

plus in single misns, you can play the ones you like over as much as you like. thats how i do smolensk-7 when i need a bit of excitement.

and feel freee to steal anything you like...God knows i sure did. I know bird brains pockets are a bit lighter.

major_setback
09-14-2005, 04:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
it doesnt have an installer, so just unzip it into a folder somewhere first, then go into that folder and you will see the VVS folder....

take the folder named VVS and place it in your RU cmpn folder...

this will be in the missions folder. find missns/cmpn/RU and place it in the RU folder. then you assign it a new pilot and go into the career mode to start it up. In the VVS folder you will see the read me file.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you, this saves me using the 'trial and error' method and ending up getting things in the wrong place. Nice to know that there's a readme too.
The single missions option is very welcome...I usually stop in the middle of a campaign if I really like a mission--just to be able to refly it at my leisure!--then I have to start all over again from scratch.

Enforcer572005
09-14-2005, 06:32 PM
very good...let me know if you have any more questions.

I hope you guys are recording some of these misns and checking out the tracks...i put cameras all over the place so you can see if your efforts have any effect (sometimes they dont even if you succeed, but usually they do) and so you can watch the ground cmbat. turns out from what ive read (and experienced) that objects dont slow it as much as i thought. you can see alot of our new toys if you pan a do a bit of zooming. you can even look dn the sights of some weapons as they engage.

msalama
09-15-2005, 06:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Major Ivanov Enforcerski </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif LMAO great name... and great stuff too it seems! Downloading as we speak http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thank you for the campaign. Hard-working & dedicated guys like you are the ones who REALLY make this sim shine!!!

FlatSpinMan
09-15-2005, 09:45 AM
Yeah, i have watched a couple of the missions again through the cameras, particularly the base attack one. Those russian guns laid waste to the panzers.

Enforcer572005
09-16-2005, 02:45 AM
yeah, but the Germans still overun the place. Its always interesting to see just how many of the transports i can get off the ground and to the northern base. Only once have i seen all 3 get airborne. one usually gets it on the ground, but not always.

I really wish we had skill level and aggresivness levels for anything that shoots. the only way you can determine who wins on the ground is just by overwhelming numbers. Panzers were usually alot better crewed than their opposition. THos 76mm and 88mm guns are also a bit too effective, like on max capability. thats why we need skill levels on such, like they have on ships.

In the Kuban section of Pt2, im gonna have some base attacks, but nobody got overrun there, as it was nearly all air combat. Trying to perfect some sneakyness.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Gathering a few skins for this one to. Lots of aces on both sides there, and the default skins are a bit bland at times. I just didnt have time to fool wiht it in Pt1, trying to keep in simple.

FlatSpinMan
09-16-2005, 04:38 AM
well you got the mission balance right. Quite different from other campaigns I've flown though maybe that's just down to the plane choice. By the way, the two times I did the base attack mission all the transports crashed on the runway. I think an I-153 bought it, then transport after transport rolled through the wreckage. Tantalizingly two of them lost their undercarriage and skidded gently to a halt. Unfortunately the one behind did not. All hands lost, I'm afraid. Quite amazing that it plays out differently though, eh?

Enforcer572005
09-17-2005, 12:45 AM
Yeah, ive flown it countless times, and it never goes the same way twice. The same is true of the ground battle, as the panzers always handily overun the place with varied casualties.

in this shot, the crew of an Li=2 decides to bail under fire. I think the left wing just got blown off by artillery or air attack.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/crewescapingLi2underfire.jpg

As you can see, i got wasted before i got off the ground when a little runnin guy ran into me and knocked my wing off.

here one of the transports actually makes it. i have gotten all 3 to safety before. most are pretty badly shot up, sometimes by artillery.
I have to attack the nearest swarm taht is attacking the base as soon as i take off. I can usually help all the 153s get up.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Li2makesitoffburningfld.jpg

FlatSpinMan
09-20-2005, 08:40 PM
Stillplugging away at the campaign Enforcer. I really like it. Maybe cos I'm actually getting some kills, I don't know. Fighters with rockets against bombers was a lot of fun. Currently we are on the offensive, just about to bust up a LW airfield. the Lagg is a bit of a beast, isn't it? Takes some punishment and has decent hitting power too. Definitely one of the more enjoyable campaigns out there.

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Enforcer572005
09-21-2005, 03:22 AM
very good.....i liked those rockets to, very effective if you get close enough to hit anything wiht'em. I did get one kill from range due to the proximity fusing though.

The lagg is a bit of a monster. I think the performance is a bit....optomistic. Most pilots didnt like it too much, and the engines in the early ones were terrible at overheating; I THINK this was modeled correctly in the first issue of IL-2, but it seems to have been changed since.....any1 else notice that? I used to have overheating in just a few seconds, but it is alot more durable now it seems.

I also cant help but notice that hardly any of youse guys have made any 'appropriate' comments on my photos of the 2 lasses wiht aircraft....those are original photos taken by moi over the yrs, posted for the edification and general enjoyment of the local "collective" here. The one in the flight suit actually wound up in the middle of a war a couple of yrs later, in the 24th inf div charging into Iraq in the 91 gulf war. I thought that was kinda ironic.

Im working on misn 3 of pt2.....collecting a few appropriate skins. Ill post a couple of screenies soon. Taking on FWs in a P-400 is kinda interesting at treetop level over the Kuban. Some really interesting history in this one.

FlatSpinMan
09-21-2005, 08:09 AM
"The performance is a bit....optimistic"
Very nicely put http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gifIt does seem to be rather formidable, cough, cough. I ike flying it though.

I was just checking through your previous posts - so that chick in the flightsuit was actually a pilot or something?

Amusing to read about the running man taking you out on the runway, too.

Keep up the good work on Pt2. I do enjoy a good treetop chase - keeps you sharp, not like those wussy hi-alt fights http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

If you don't have enough campaigns to fly( as if) then I can recommend one coming out soon. It's a Spanish Civil War campaign based around the I-16. It was released a few years agao in French by Gaston/DjTeD but he is just putting the finishing touches on an updated, English language version. I've been translating the briefings and the missions certainly sound interesting. Heaps of really interesting skins included,too.

As for the Lagg overheating, maybe it's just the winter setting but even if it does overheat after 20 mins blatting around at full throttle, just knock it down to 80% for a few seconds and it is all better instantly. My kind of plane. Having done quite a lot of German and recently, VVS flying, I find I prefer the nose mounted heavier armament, even though the loadout is quite small. What do you think?

-HH- Beebop
09-21-2005, 06:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fabianfred:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/109bailout.jpg

I always thought it was a German who invented Windsurfing... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes but THAT sufboard is WAAAY overmodeled! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Enforcer572005
09-21-2005, 07:24 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif yup, thats one super surfboard.(dont tell the 109 guys that, since they will claim they were actually used for that...heh heh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

Yes FSM, I think its a bit too good, but it is still outperformed by 109s quite regularly. I like the 35 model you can mount a 23mm in...that thing is pretty awsome.

I think the loadout on the Lagg may actually be a little overdone....the squadron/signal book i hvae on Laggs shows them with 6 of those little rockets, not 8. but thats ok , since they are so much fun. Just wait till you have to use them on Stukas.

The chick in the photo wiht the flitghtsuit is not a pilot, but she had just joined the Army the day after her 18th b-day before graduating. She is just wearing my old airshow flightsuit (my dads old army nomex one with usaf patches i applied when i belonged to a little air museum in Calhoun GA) at said museum, which can be seen from I-75 if you come thru N. Ga.

I have a large amount of those things, and some are very good. Ill post some more sometime, as im about to run out of band width. She wound up in the 24th Inf division and spent about 9 mos in the desert, including 4 rather exciting ones charging thru the saudi/iraqi desert in the hail mary manuver when they outflanked Saddams army, and then slaughtered it. she has all sorts of stories, but the best one is when the pick up truck she was driving had 2 flats at once and the rest of the div kept on going while she waited with the company sissy for a repair veh.
She saw some soldiers on a nearby hill she knew werent american, and since she didnt wnat to be affectionate wiht any Iraqis, she assembled the 50 cal they had in teh back, and instead of digging it in (which would have been of limited use), they mounted that thing on the hood of the truck-pure bluff just to discourage any1 from coming around. I thnk the soldiers she saw were Syrian, but they wanted nothing to do with the crazy Americans with the MG on teh hood of the truck.

In a glaring example of military unprepardness, the army ran out of Bras in her size (36D for those keeping notes). So she calls me from Saudi and wants me to get her some undies....a matching set. Preferably the black lacey kind, like we had done some pics in after she got out of basic(I AINT gonna post those).

So i did my part to help the war effort and to......"support" our troops. I felt like i had a small role in winning the war.

She's a doctor now in an ER last i heard. Neat broad.

Oh, and i won second place in a local photo contest with a shot of her on the F-86D wiht her hair blowing in the wind. It looked like she was riding the thing in the air. heh heh.

anyway, here are a couple of new screenies from VVS Fighters, Pt2. This starts out with you rejoining the 120th after ferry duty in alaska. you become the exec again of course, and you also get the extra duty of commanding the 2cd squadron of the regiment. 1st squdrn has P-39Ns, but 2cd has P-400 RAF handmedowns, and you must take on 109Gs and FWs in this thing at low level.

The first shot is at the backwater base.....the conditions were terrible because there was no road system supporting them in the Kuban. The HQ shack is in the background,
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/P400HQshack.jpg
prepped for the expected luftwaffe attacks, and a detachment of nightwitches is billeted in the background; they are the only ones besides the command staff who get tents under shade trees, and they have thier own outhouse.

There are many Luftwaffe units in the area, as the bridgehead they are establishing in the Kuban controls the only major port, and a battle of attrition developes wiht many different squadrons involved in all sorts of markings and colors on both sides. Surprisingly, the P-400 does Ok at low level as long as you keep you speed up.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/P400onFWfromfront.jpg

As always, your trusty wingy Yuri comes to your rescue in the nick of time. And as always, this thing winds up at low level. And to make it more interesting, the Kuban is extremely mountanous-truly treacherous terrain. The luftwaffe operates from well equipped bases close to the front lines, but the VVS must push the range of thier planes. You dont wanna bail out over these woods.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Yuriafter190low.jpg

So the VVS embarks on a misn of disrupting airfields, and of course the IL-2 in assorted marks excels at this. Its amazing how low those guys get to avoid the AA over the well equipped and built up German bases (as actually was the case).
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/IL-2ultralowrunoverJu88sonbase.jpg

And of course the Luftwaffe goes just as low to attack our bombers. This will keep you busy, though the odds, while difficult at first, improve to the point that the VVS is on the offensive and changes the tide of the war; this is little known in the west-the Kuban was thier Midway.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/110ultralow.jpg

and as usual, you will get an assortment of juryrigged help....including Baltic Fleet reserves flying I-16s; this is that planes swansong in teh spring of 43, but they are still able to deal wiht the luftwaffes destroyers.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/I-16blasting110brass.jpg

THis time there will also be a greater VVS/PVO presence, and you can ask control to send assistance knowing some will probably come, including 3rd sqdrons hurricanes.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/3rdsqdrnhurrisfieldmods.jpg

Enforcer572005
09-21-2005, 09:26 PM
Oh yeah FSM, i will definitely get the SCW cmpn you mention, but i dunno when i can fly it. Im so busy with 2 partime jobs and promoting/soliciting my photography bsness that time is short. I barely can do my own projects, but i do manage to fly some other stuff some. I wanna try Dubbos castaway campn and finish the others i have in progress....i have the career screen totally full right now. sheeesh.

And im determined to finnish up the other 2 parts of VVS ftrs as soon as i can, but ive worked on msn 2 for a week now, so...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

FlatSpinMan
09-22-2005, 08:45 AM
Whoa! A week on a mission? You'll kill yourself. I appreciate the results but man, you'll end up in the loony bin. Just make sure you get the second part done before they commit you though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jpet311
09-25-2005, 01:47 PM
Enforcer,

I just finished the 2nd mission today, and I'm lovin' it so far. This is the fanboy at RadioShack in Rome. Thanks for letting me know about this thing!

Enforcer572005
09-25-2005, 09:33 PM
cool, great to see you on here. would get out to W.Rome more, but im on a bicycle most of the time, and thats a way to travel from n.rome. There's alot more than 7 hills in that dmn town to.

remember that the I-16 has gravity fed fuel feed and you have to keep positive g on that thing. i just love having to restart (takes two hits on I key) at 100m with a pair of 109s on my Bolshevik tail.

I think you will enjoy misn number 7 at the end of the smolensk mini cmpn.....several others here have.

i finally noticed the PMs.....sorry it took a while to answer them.

Welcome to the ubi zoo....neat place here....good guys with lots of cool stuff. check out olegs ready room and the other forums to. This place really kicks..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jpet311
09-27-2005, 05:17 AM
Just finished seven! WOW!!! That was awesome! I'm gonna have to store that one away in my single missions and have another go at it! I got 10 kills in that one! Don't ask how; I'm as befuddled as you are, lol! That one really added the immersion (did i spell that correctly?) factor! Well, gotta go for now. Mother Russia needs me!

Enforcer572005
09-27-2005, 08:41 PM
10 kills?!?! holy cr@p! you must be an incredible shot. the best i ever did was four kills, while i got all 3 transports off the ground and somehow minimized the straffing of the ground collums escaping to the village. 3 of the 4 were 110s. I had to belly in at the village and hop a ride on a truck in one of the collumns.

I was at the store today talking to James when you called. when it rains it pours man.

if you make a trak of that and look around the cameras near the village, you can look down the barrels and literally through the sites of several guns. kinda neat watching the 76mm guns to the far rt corner take on teh panzers as they top the ridge.

FlatSpinMan
09-27-2005, 09:12 PM
Yeah, I was thinking 10 kills was pretty impressive, too. Nice work.
Hey, Enforcer, this campaign just got really hard! I was flying around happily in the early missions (lost, a few planes, got killed maybe twice in the first 15 missions or so - sniper gunner PK plus once I flew into the ground while looking at ground action on other cameras) but then Stalingrad started. That thunderstorm mission, I clipped ground objects that were next to the runway about 6 times due to the annoying ground handling, only got up in the air once and then a Stuka gunner PKed me! Next mission, which I really liked BTW, was the one in the snow with the 2 Storches,heaps of Ju-52s and the Experten. This was also tough as the visibilty is poor but what I liked about it was that nothing happnes for ages once the Storches have been dispatched so the tension mounts. Then you see the transports and your eyes light up (as do the transports http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif). But again, in that visibilty you can't tell what's what and next thing you know the old Experten have PKed your sorry a$$! So my record has gone down the toilet(even more- 2 deaths wasn't so great anyway)

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FlatSpinMan
09-28-2005, 08:42 AM
Comrade Commissar!!!
Comrade FlatSpinisky reporting in as ordered!
Mission completed.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/FlatSpinMan/pk000005.jpg
22 Fascist Invaders were confirmed dead in all, for the loss of 8 machines of the Red Army Aviation Forces. Pilot casualties were surprisingly low initially despite the Fascist onslaught but, I regret to inform you that they mounted steadily towards the final stages of the campaign. The deaths can be put down to fatigue from the constant grinding down of combat missions, particularly in trying conditions such as on the Stalingrad front. One or two unhelpful incidents involving careless wingmen also played a factor. Again, this was doubtless due to sheer fatigue.
Kills peaked in the late stages of the defense of Moscow. Once the enemy drove on to Stalingrad a combination of pilot overconfidence, bad weather, crowded runways and increased enemy escorts combined to drive the number of kills down while at the same time increasing the number of deaths on our side. Surely a four-times decorated member of the great VVS, a holder of the Order of Lenin, a hero of the Soviet Union, has done enough to merit a place in the next campaign to rid the Rodina of the enemies of the great Russian people!!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/FlatSpinMan/180px-1988-09.jpg

sokil
09-28-2005, 06:43 PM
Flatspinman, nice Soviet posters, would you mind sharing where you found them?

Enforcer572005
09-28-2005, 09:45 PM
Yes Comrade Flatspininski, those posters add color to your report, which will be forwarded to Stavka in Moscow. You will be mentioned in despatches preparing our comrades for what appears to be a massive air campaign over the Kuban.

The best ive done on it (after testing it a billion times, so no surprises) is 40 kills, and the same number of losses...8.

I tried to keep it from getting too easy, as teh VVS's losses were pretty severe in those cmpns, despite their overall vicory. I just finished misn 3 in pt 2, so i have a long way to go. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FlatSpinMan
09-29-2005, 07:33 AM
@ Enforcer, I found my kills really levelled off around no 16/17. The thing is, you get a successful mission or two under your belt and then it's very easy to get carried away with kills rather than getting home intact. That is what led to the explosion in player deaths near the end I think. Especially when you throw all those transports and bombers at me - it's like porn for pilots - how can you not try to knock down as many as you can??? they're so tempting, all huge and slow and unarmoured....

@sokil - just go to Google, select Image Search and then type in whatever you are looking for. Got some great stuff on the Spanish Civil War which will be appearing shortly. Once you find a picture you like, just right click and select Save Picture As.. it's that easy! Probably illegal but let's not split hairs...

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