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Celeon999
02-15-2006, 08:17 AM
I just saw a new short docu about U-31 in german TV. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It had some really cool features like the switching from diesel to hydrogen fuel cells.

A cameramen was allowed to make some shots in the machineroom as they switched off the diesels at snorkel depth.

It was really loud and suddenly you could hear the diesels switching off and then...... nothing... absolute silence. They were standing next to the stainless steel case in which the fuel cells and electric motors are located.

The cameraman asked one of the officers when the fuel cells and motors would be started and he smiled back at him and said "they are already running" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

cameraman :"I cant hear anything but a quiet humm"

officer : "Thats the idea" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif "The humm is unhearable outside, impossible ,even with the most modern sonar systems you wouldnt hear anything but the propellor which is also designed for extremely quiet running"

"Thats the same in other diesel electric u-boats but the advancement is that we are even more silent and the hydrogen fuel cells produce enough electric power for staying submerged for approximately 4 weeks while most of other non-nuclear u-boats only have 48 hours with conventional batterys."

"The anti-magnetic steel of our hull makes eletromagnetic location systems useless, we produce no magnetic field and no exhaust heat"

"Ahh yes and we dont trigger magnetic mines anymore, enemy divers would also have no luck in trying to attach magnetic demolition charges on our hull http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"

Reporter : "Wasnt it boring to be out on the sea for so many months and repeating the same tests over and over again" "Many people have those scenes from "Das Boot" in mind when they think of u-boats"

Officer : "*Laughs* Yes its boring sometimes but we also had some interesting encounters in the atlantic that kept us busy"

Reporter : "Encounters?"

Officer : "We had an british helicopter dropping sonar buoys around us on our first trail voyage and and an u.s merchantship that didnt had much trading in mind but stalking us a little bit in the atlanctic , propably making photos and trying to collect some intel for their archives http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"



Sadly i had no TV card to copy it. There were a lot of new video footages and interesting interviews with the crew. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jose.MaC
02-15-2006, 08:28 AM
XDDD Hey, I'm beggining to love the german humour! Is really dry!

Sometimes, you even cannot be confident of your own NATO allies!

Thks for the info!

Celeon999
02-15-2006, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Jose.MaC:
XDDD Hey, I'm beggining to love the german humour! Is really dry!

Sometimes, you even cannot be confident of your own NATO allies!

Thks for the info!


Well , nobody sees you out on the ocean , its an own world for itself. And so i think every navy keeps an close eye on what others do there and what their new toys are like. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I heard the improved fuel cells of the type 214 will have capacity for about 8 weeks of staying underwater. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I guess the days of the conventional diesel electric subs are finally over with that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

blue_76
02-15-2006, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
u.s merchantship that didnt had much trading in mind but stalking us a little bit in the atlanctic , propably making photos and trying to collect some intel for their archives http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif"

wow, i guess there's no hope of seeing that documentary in the US http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
never heard of a merchant stalking a sub. good story, thanks.

Celeon999
02-15-2006, 09:41 AM
Well i guess there is a connection with that event and the attempted hostile takeover of the Howaldswerke Deutschland company (manufacturer of the type 212) by an u.s shipyard consortium in 2005. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I dont think that this was in the u.s channels news too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The consortium tried to buy the major part of HDW´s stocks for an amount that was three times higher as its actual worth per stock. Thats called a "hostile takeover attempt" in the stockmarket language. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

So you can take control of a company that doesnt want to be buyed by you.

The british mobile phone company Vodafone did this with its german counterpart D-2 Mannesmann.

Anyway....

It didnt worked in the case of HDW. An law was enacted in germany that prevented the hostile takeover of military supplier companys by foreign companys or trade consortiums.

Shortly after that the same consortium and the us navy contacted HDW and asked them about an possible joint venture in military naval research. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It looks like someone is really impressed by this new u-boat and its technology. Especially when you think of the dabate going on in the u.s military about not having paid enough attention on diesel-electric submarine advancements and new naval weapons (super cavitation) in the last 60 years. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Jose.MaC
02-15-2006, 03:08 PM
They've been developing subs against USSR nuclear thread. So diesel development wasn't a priority. Now that USSR is out of business, and that Rusia is far from being the same thread, they need to adapt to the new enemies. Is just as simple as that.

Hoatee
02-15-2006, 03:33 PM
We still need the Russians though. And they, too, face the same danger as we do (Beslan?).

wessenhammer
02-15-2006, 06:13 PM
thats one ugly little sub
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:U_Boot_212_HDW_1.jpg

Jose.MaC
02-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Hey, is smaller than I thought! And not very nice, indeed! Oh, this lovely VIIB...