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sireatsalot91
07-09-2007, 12:30 AM
I read in an interview with Jade Raymond that their will be a "believability meter" or something of the likes. She did not go into detail about it and I was wondering what it could be for. My guess is that it is something that keeps the person in the hospital bed thinking that he is still that person and not actually Altair or vice versa. I have also heard that it might prevent from doing things that are too crazy like the leap of faith. What do you guys think?

Thumper1980
07-09-2007, 02:50 AM
Got some linkage?
Sounds like a plausible theory

chicko1983
07-09-2007, 03:04 AM
In the x06 onstage demo when Altair gets in the sword fight at the end of the demo there is a meter of some sort in the top left hand of the screen. Ive watched the demo a fair few times to see exactly what it is because it flashes red at some stages. Im pretty sure it isnt health because the red flashes even when altair is not hit. It also has computer-like information scrolling underneath it. Now hearing about this believability meter I think this may be it...

Thumper1980
07-09-2007, 03:33 AM
Would explain why that girl says "Are you okay, we thought we lost you for a second" when Altair is killed in the X06 demo.

The host must be directly effected by what Altair does.

ScytheOfGrim
07-09-2007, 05:10 AM
i was wondering what that meter thing was...thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

i hope it doesnt really ruin the flow of the game. im afraid it might be kinda like the grinding meter in tony hawk's. you know, if you push too much you fall. so if you do too many "believable" things then its game over, cuz you wake up in the hospital...or something like that...

Bartek_14
07-09-2007, 05:54 AM
That meter you were talking about is his "stamina" meter. See- when he blocks this bar just flashes red, and it has been said that you can't block too many times because Altair can't block forever and he gets tired. And this bar is kindof his "block' meter, but I like 'stamina bar' better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

chicko1983
07-09-2007, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Bartek_14:
That meter you were talking about is his "stamina" meter. See- when he blocks this bar just flashes red, and it has been said that you can't block too many times because Altair can't block forever and he gets tired. And this bar is kindof his "block' meter, but I like 'stamina bar' better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Nah sorry mate but I dont agree with you. Ive got a 5.33min demo from gametrailers.com and just after the assassination the meter is at its biggest. It then gets smaller as Altair runs away which would suggest a sort of "stamina meter" but at 4.46min the meter is flickering and flashing red when Altair is not blocking anything or running. Then at 4.51min the length of the meter increases so it cannot be a "stamina" or "block" meter because why would it increase?
I think the bar/meter has something to do with the "strength" of the memory. For example, at assassination the memory is strongest and then memory bar flickers and goes red like the memory is "failing" when there is danger close by, cause Altair cannot/should not die at that particular point in the game/story. Hence, when Altair dies in the demo the memory had failed and the person wakes up in the future

Thumper1980
07-09-2007, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by chicko1983:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bartek_14:
That meter you were talking about is his "stamina" meter. See- when he blocks this bar just flashes red, and it has been said that you can't block too many times because Altair can't block forever and he gets tired. And this bar is kindof his "block' meter, but I like 'stamina bar' better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Nah sorry mate but I dont agree with you. Ive got a 5.33min demo from gametrailers.com and just after the assassination the meter is at its biggest. It then gets smaller as Altair runs away which would suggest a sort of "stamina meter" but at 4.46min the meter is flickering and flashing red when Altair is not blocking anything or running. Then at 4.51min the length of the meter increases so it cannot be a "stamina" or "block" meter because why would it increase?
I think the bar/meter has something to do with the "strength" of the memory. For example, at assassination the memory is strongest and then memory bar flickers and goes red like the memory is "failing" when there is danger close by, cause Altair cannot/should not die at that particular point in the game/story. Hence, when Altair dies in the demo the memory had failed and the person wakes up in the future </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Props chicko, thats a good theory mate.

x_101_
07-09-2007, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by sireatsalot91:
I read in an interview with Jade Raymond that their will be a "believability meter" or something of the likes. She did not go into detail about it and I was wondering what it could be for. My guess is that it is something that keeps the person in the hospital bed thinking that he is still that person and not actually Altair or vice versa. I have also heard that it might prevent from doing things that are too crazy like the leap of faith. What do you guys think?

I remember hearing this somewhere but i thought they said it was how much the guy in the hospital believes he is altair, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif not sure though.

or maybe a confidence meter: http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=136500

SmokehtheFirst
07-09-2007, 10:24 AM
Yeah I'mma agree with above poster, I think it's just the confidence meter you guys are seeing.

MrMoo333
07-09-2007, 11:06 AM
What if its a Social Stealth meter, and you are doing things that arent believable to be normal, it goes up (e.g. Assassinating someone, getting into a sword fight, pushing people out of the way) and when the bar get red it means you have alerted the guards for some odd reason or another, and when its normal, everyones jus chillin'! But your guys' theorys are great!

sireatsalot91
07-09-2007, 11:12 AM
Sorry guys, but i cant find a link on the internet anywherehttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif! I think it was in an old issue of Xbox 360 World, they did a four or six page coverage on the story and gameplay mechanics. How much the host thinks he was Altair seems more like what she said, x_101_

x_101_
07-09-2007, 12:12 PM
yeah im pretty sure thats what i remeber hearing i'll look for the link.

chewie1890
07-09-2007, 03:32 PM
It's called his confidence meter, it's taking the place of the traditional hit point system.


Much remains to be revealed about Assassin's Creed. We saw a brief bit of combat featuring automatic block, parry and dodge moves as well as a confidence meter that takes the place of a traditional hit point system

Source. (http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=34233)

Further proof:


Altair has a confidence and energy meter that is used to determine how many blocks and counters he can perform. As he blocks, dives out of the way and counters each enemy, the meter depletes and his actions become less effective.

Source. (http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/assassins_creed/preview-198.html)

Sorry guys.

noobfun
07-09-2007, 03:33 PM
didnt we already have this conversation a lonnnnnngggg time ago and conclude it was more likley to be a believability that your an everyday person

kinda like sam fishers darkness meter thingy-m-bob

i think it even had the same topic name lol

chewie1890
07-09-2007, 03:46 PM
I'm not surprised you remember that thread, you did a fair bit of owning in that thread. You fully explained the confidence/energy bar too. The link is here. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/7861038845?r=1701023155#1701023155) Damn so close to having the exact same title...

I believe the actual conclusion was that there was a confidence meter which dictated how confident you thought your escape was, and how confident you were affected how fast the energy bar would go down.

noobfun
07-09-2007, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by chewie1890:
I'm not surprised you remember that thread, you did a fair bit of owning in that thread. You fully explained the confidence/energy bar too. The link is here. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/7861038845?r=1701023155#1701023155) Damn so close to having the exact same title...

I believe the actual conclusion was that there was a confidence meter which dictated how confident you thought your escape was, and how confident you were affected how fast the energy bar would go down.

danke ^_^

i knew we'd done it already just couldnt remember the conclusions

sireatsalot91
07-09-2007, 10:50 PM
sorry for doin the same thread. i used the search feature but it didn't come up with anything. Thanks for the info, though!

TogaLive
07-10-2007, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by sireatsalot91:
I read in an interview with Jade Raymond that their will be a "believability meter" or something of the likes. She did not go into detail about it and I was wondering what it could be for. My guess is that it is something that keeps the person in the hospital bed thinking that he is still that person and not actually Altair or vice versa. I have also heard that it might prevent from doing things that are too crazy like the leap of faith. What do you guys think?
Possible I think, mabey other uses though.

Seed1989
07-11-2007, 02:12 AM
yeah