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NadeSpam2.0
12-20-2007, 10:53 PM
I currently play wwiionline.com, not sure if any of you have played this. I love flight sim type of games, but I'm growing made at the game and it's stupid bugs.

I want to know is Il2 way better than this game? If so, that will make my day and I'll start playing it tonight.

Also what's the learning curve like for il2? Is it something you master in a few minutes and take off to the skys, or a few weeks?

joejoemonkey
12-20-2007, 11:25 PM
im a wwiionliner myself, judging distance is alot easier, graphics are brighter, youll notice the engine torque.... generally alot more visually stimulating although there is nearly no ground detail in comparison. its a good diversion from wwiiol and i generally switch back and forth.

Nesher
12-21-2007, 05:44 AM
Personally I haven't been playing WWII flight sims since microsoft's CFS 3 came out, and is now considering buying Il-2.

Now I wonder how the 1946 box works, are the earlier parts included, is it a stand alone, or do I need some of the earlier parts to be able to fly?

Living in Finland, the possibilty of flying for Ilmavoimat is of course something I would like to have, and therefore the Forgotten War seems to be the right choice for me (although it is a few years old, I still think I can find it in some stores).

Klemm.co
12-21-2007, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by Nesher:
Personally I haven't been playing WWII flight sims since microsoft's CFS 3 came out, and is now considering buying Il-2.

Now I wonder how the 1946 box works, are the earlier parts included, is it a stand alone, or do I need some of the earlier parts to be able to fly?

Living in Finland, the possibilty of flying for Ilmavoimat is of course something I would like to have, and therefore the Forgotten War seems to be the right choice for me (although it is a few years old, I still think I can find it in some stores).
Il-2 1946 is all the games in one box and one install. Its Forgotten Battles, Ace Expansion Pack, Pacific Fighters, Pe-2, Manchuria and the 46 Addon all in one box. Buy it, install the 4.08 patch (the game out of the box is 4.07) and you're good to go. Everything is included, so get it if you can.
Oh, and Il-2 is very much better than CFS 3.

Bremspropeller
12-21-2007, 05:52 AM
IL-2'46 is an "all in one" package http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Nesher
12-21-2007, 06:01 AM
Thanks for the extremly quick replies! I certainly will as soon as my "economic situation" allows http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bearcat99
12-21-2007, 06:17 AM
Well if you are in the US I believe 46 can be found for $20... it is hands down the best WWII sims on the market.. ever.

BrotherVoodoo
12-21-2007, 01:55 PM
the best WWII sims on the market.. ever
I would dare to say the IL2 series is the best flight sim ever made. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

crucislancer
12-21-2007, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by NadeSpam2.0:
I currently play wwiionline.com, not sure if any of you have played this. I love flight sim type of games, but I'm growing made at the game and it's stupid bugs.

I want to know is Il2 way better than this game? If so, that will make my day and I'll start playing it tonight.

Also what's the learning curve like for il2? Is it something you master in a few minutes and take off to the skys, or a few weeks?

Having never played WWIIOnline, I can't compare the two games, other then to say that IL-2 is purely a flight sim, while the other has all the other elements associated with it. Also, IL-2 has offline and online elements, there are a boatload and more of offline campaigns, not to mention what the game comes with as well. While online play isn't quite in the MMO scale, there are a slew of options from simple dogfights to co-ops.

Mastering the game on full difficulty will take some time, but having prior knowledge of flight sims in general and WWII aircraft in particular will be helpful.

I highly recommend IL-2 1946. The amount of planes, maps, and options will keep you busy for a long time to come.

NadeSpam2.0
12-22-2007, 02:10 PM
Thank you guys for the fast replies. I think i'm going to try il2 out. I love how large the community is and how customizable everything in the game seems to be.

One more question if I might ask. Is this a game where you get a dedicated server and can build you own clan, or is this like subcription based?

ElAurens
12-22-2007, 02:32 PM
Not subscription based. Most online activity is on Hyperlobby. download the lobby
here. (http://hyperfighter.sk/)

They are called squads or squadrons here, not clans.

Setting up a dedicated server is all up to you. You must provide your own computer and internet access. There is a dedicated server patch as well that you will need.

Zeus-cat
12-22-2007, 02:36 PM
There is a free server where many people play called Hyperlobby. Go up to Bearcat99's post and click on the link to The Nugget's Giude. You will find a lot of useful inforation in there on Hyperlobby, Teamspeak and other good stuff.

My training campaign (Straight From the Farm) can be found by following the link below. This is not a game you will learn in a few minutes; expect to spend a lot of time to get good at it, but you will enjoy it from the start.

K_Freddie
12-22-2007, 02:43 PM
Yes!, up here we have squadrons, old boy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
There is a free dedicated server software for download, if you want to run this type of server. Its quite a few downloads as it requires patching from day-1.
Or you can just run the in-game server from the same PC you play on - this is nifty for LAN games.

From my experiences and FPS, this game youll find a better bunch of players, with a lot more patience and helpfullness.
There are some dedicated servers on Hyperlobby, All-Seeing-Eye (gamespy type proggys) that require passwords (you can set this up), but playing these type of servers can get boring, as its nice to have a rotation of players passing through the servers. the more you 'fly' against the more you learn. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zardozid
12-22-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by BrotherVoodoo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the best WWII sims on the market.. ever
I would dare to say the IL2 series is the best flight sim ever made. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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fabianfred
12-22-2007, 03:08 PM
and it is certainly not learned in just a matter of days...or even weeks....many of us have been flying il2 for five years or more....and still learn something new each day...

welcome...and what a lovely christmas present for yourselves

Choctaw111
12-22-2007, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by fabianfred:


welcome...and what a lovely christmas present for yourselves

I'll second that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99
12-22-2007, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by NadeSpam2.0:
Thank you guys for the fast replies. I think i'm going to try il2 out. I love how large the community is and how customizable everything in the game seems to be.

One more question if I might ask. Is this a game where you get a dedicated server and can build you own clan, or is this like subcription based?

\If I were you I would just get the sim first and then check out HL... If you intend to bring buddies from WW2OL over it is better if you are versed in the way things are done here.. That's what I did.

fabianfred
12-22-2007, 03:32 PM
a couple of months flying off-line wouldn't hurt ...before throwing yourself to the wolves http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Xiolablu3
12-23-2007, 04:57 PM
Just buy the IL2 1946 box, thats all you need.

IL2 is really incredible, particluarly the online play. You get the real feeling of an air battle, and the flight models are the most realistic in any WW2 sim by far.

|You get whiners who are biased from both sides, but I think most reasonable and balanced people realise that the sim is very realistic.

For example you get Russian pilots claiming Oleg has 'sold out' to the fascits.

German fans claiming Oleg is Russian biased and the big whine about the FW190 forward view (I've seen real pics and it looks just right to me) ALso constant moans that the Bf109 has poor elevator control at higher speeds (as it did in history)

Amercian pilots claiming that IL2 has nerfed all US aircraft becasue hes a 'commie'. (Forgetting the physics and the fact that most US fighters are much heavier than other countries light dogfighters). ALso endless moans about the 50 cals not having the power of 20mm cannon.

British pilots claiming they dont have any late war aircraft like the late Spitfire's or later Tempests. And that the Hurricane cant outturn the Bf109, and the moans that .303 mg's are weak. (as they should be)


Its a sign that he has it just about right!!


Get the game, you will love it. Make sure you have a good joystick, and be prepared for a learning curve. Flying real planes is not something you can learn in 5 minutes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ElAurens
12-23-2007, 05:47 PM
Excellent post Xio.

Really.

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Loco-S
12-23-2007, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Nesher:
Personally I haven't been playing WWII flight sims since microsoft's CFS 3 came out, and is now considering buying Il-2.

Now I wonder how the 1946 box works, are the earlier parts included, is it a stand alone, or do I need some of the earlier parts to be able to fly?


Living in Finland, the possibilty of flying for Ilmavoimat is of course something I would like to have, and therefore the Forgotten War seems to be the right choice for me (although it is a few years old, I still think I can find it in some stores).

here is the best match for you, this guys are awesome and they have meetings with old pilots and such...give them a visit

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/

NadeSpam2.0
12-24-2007, 03:44 AM
Thanks guys for being so helpful. Since I own my own gaming/voice server company, I'd like to start my own server, but that will be later.

You guys are really helpful. And if you guys need any assistance from me, please don't hesitate to contact me.

x6BL_Brando
12-24-2007, 06:19 AM
Posted Sun December 23 2007 16:47
Excellent post Xio.

Really.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'll second that! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xiolablu3
12-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Posted Sun December 23 2007 16:47
Excellent post Xio.

Really.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'll second that! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glad you feel the same guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99
12-24-2007, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by NadeSpam2.0:
Thanks guys for being so helpful. Since I own my own gaming/voice server company, I'd like to start my own server, but that will be later.

You guys are really helpful. And if you guys need any assistance from me, please don't hesitate to contact me.

If that is the case then you can run a dedicated server.. there is a dedicated server program... and you really dont need the sim to run it... just to fly it..LOL.. Plus ist is strictly a head to head dogfight server.. no AI in there.

SeaFireLIV
12-24-2007, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by NadeSpam2.0:
Thanks guys for being so helpful. Since I own my own gaming/voice server company, I'd like to start my own server, but that will be later.

You guys are really helpful. And if you guys need any assistance from me, please don't hesitate to contact me.

It`s an excellent flight sim and the best out there, especially for online, but offline is very good too.

Chris0382
12-25-2007, 07:53 AM
Im remanicing about that first IL-2 mission from the original. A long flight and 15 mins and Im shot out of the sky by yellow and silver things in the air, never saw what really what hit me.

After purchasing a ch-prod combatstick and lots of learning of the game and stick programming I got better.

It took 2 months to get fairly good; and 100's of missions later can say Ive enjoyed the ride and I never master the skies as the missions are so varied.

PF_Coastie
12-25-2007, 08:10 AM
I have never flown Aces High. But I did fly RB3D. I was fortunate enough to get into flight sims with a good squad right from the start (Phantom Fighters). My learning curve was greatly reduced for this alone.

When IL2 came out, RB3D was on its last legs so we were ready for a switch. We migrated over and never looked back. Sure we missed some things about RB like its incredible online campaign mode. But, IL2 has so much to offer that you just can't stop playing it. That is the beauty of flight sims, every single mission is different in some way. There are never any 2 missions alike.

You will do just fine switching over with a good squad and the help of this great community. We will be here for you and your "squad".

Good Luck!