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Pat_Pattle
12-01-2004, 11:53 PM
Hi all,
I love the Gladiator/J8 but there is no artificial horizon. Is this a deliberate ommision or a mistake, and Is there anyway to fix this?

Cheers, Pat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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JR_Greenhorn
12-02-2004, 12:14 AM
Welcome to the forums! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


I kind of doubt you'll find any mistakes in that particular cockpit.

Its an early plane, so maybe it just didn't have one?

The J8A was reinstrumented by the Swedish, so it would depend on what they put in, not how British Glads were equipped.

F19_Orheim
12-02-2004, 03:16 AM
No there are no mistakes in the J8A Cockpit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The J8A is such an old airplane that not artificial horisont was fitted. The instruments you have to rely on in i.e clouds are the Bankindicator and Anlgle of attack indicator.

You will find tips how to fly the J8A and a map over the cockpit at our homepage http://www.f19vs.se under "HANGAR"

Pat_Pattle
12-02-2004, 05:32 AM
Thanks for the info. Excellent site Orheim, I've learned something today http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. The photos of the J8 in the museum are great. Shame some of the links aren't in English but I shall do some more digging and find out more about this theatre of the war.

S~ Clive

Breeze147
12-02-2004, 06:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
No there are no mistakes in the J8A Cockpit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The J8A is such an old airplane that not artificial horisont was fitted. The instruments you have to rely on in i.e clouds are the Bankindicator and Anlgle of attack indicator.

You will find tips how to fly the J8A and a map over the cockpit at our homepage http://www.f19vs.se under "HANGAR" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That looks like an interesting site, but I can't scroll through it or anything. what am I doing wrong?

F19_Orheim
12-02-2004, 03:50 PM
no scrolling needed as long as u has at least resolution 1024,

gates123
12-02-2004, 05:06 PM
yaks dont have artificial horizons either

F19_Orheim
12-02-2004, 05:26 PM
me neither... Hard to walk straight in fog....

bird_brain
12-02-2004, 05:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pat_Pattle:
...but I shall do some more digging and find out more about this theatre of the war.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Welcome to the forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Judging from your nickname, you might be interested in flying "The Blue". It was based on a book called "Ace of Aces" by ECR Baker & it is a little paperback published just after WWII about Pat Pattle. I included some of his missions in North Africa and although it is not 100% true to history, it is pretty close. The end of the campaign corresponds to Pattle's move to Greece where he met his ultimate demise. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
Reading that book is what got me interested in doing a Gladiator/Hurricane campaign. I used the J8a to substitute for the Gladiator so don't be surprised when your instruments are not in English. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

You can find it in the missions section on the front page, or @ the link in my sig. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Pat_Pattle
12-03-2004, 01:00 AM
Sounds good Bird, I'll get the mission later (at work at present http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)..thanks, saves me some work, lol There was also a set of missions done for cfs2 which used a lot of ISO4 aircraft and a superb Gladiator that's still up at Simviation.

Yep I'm a 'fan' of Pat Pattle and have ECR Bakers book, excellent read. Bit of a shame that he's not that widely known about. That whole Balkans campaign and the courage of all those who participated could do with more coverage, IMO.

If you're interested in that theatre, try Roald Dahls books, he was a hurricane Pilot in Greece and had met Pattle. I can't think of the book titles off-hand but well worth a look.

Cheers

Clive