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karost
05-08-2005, 12:11 AM
Hi, I like to know what you thinks about this movies http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

but for me STAR WARS make me feel like a boy when first time seen ( yes that over 30 years ago ) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S~

Dolemite-
05-08-2005, 02:20 AM
I thinks it isnt out yet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

But it does it look better than the last 2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

F19_Olli72
05-08-2005, 02:47 AM
I dont understand what mr Lucas was thinking:

EP1 was a kids movie. Sort of 'the Goonies goes to space', we all hated that annoying brat in the lead role. We hated Anakins mom's acting performance too.

EP2 was for sentimental fools with a nack for cheesy love stories and very fake looking golden cyborg arms. Though with some hints of what couldve been done better.

EP3, supposedly the darkest episode since Empire strikes back. Vader is back, and so is the wookies. Must be cool then. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

R_Mutt
05-08-2005, 03:10 AM
Lucas is brilliant, he made the first movie really crappy, he made the next movie middle of the road crappy, which means when the final is a little crappy we will think it's brilliant because it has vader and it would be impossible to make one worse than what came before with vader in it. Bottom line, Lucas gets to go out on a high note.

HotelBushranger
05-08-2005, 03:15 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I hate these new ones. They should have just left the first 3 to be, instead of trying to milk it even more. All the new ones are cr@p.

Ankanor
05-08-2005, 03:50 AM
A Priori I feel the movie will be very good. While the first was IMO baaad! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif it's idea was to introduce characters. also, back then there were no 3.2 GHz Pentiums. Sadly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif The second part... well it wasn't that bad, and keep in mind it's "the bridge" to the culmination. And here.. much Jedi blood shed will be http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif I expect to see people coming out of the theater with tears in their eyes. Anakin turning into Darth VAder will shake people, if it is acted as it should be. Just my 2 eurocents

Cajun76
05-08-2005, 03:57 AM
Based on EP II, I hope they found an actor to play Anakin. I play a scene better than that when I tell my wife "I'm only going to fly for an hour."

F19_Olli72
05-08-2005, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by Cajun76:
Based on EP II, I hope they found an actor to play Anakin. I play a scene better than that when I tell my wife "I'm only going to fly for an hour."

Its the same guy as in EP2, Hayden Christensen.

F19_Ob
05-08-2005, 04:46 AM
Now and then I get an occasional starwarsmania and need some sci-fi.....

I loved the early filming tecniques of starwars and and found the storytelling and camera exellent in many situations.
Lukas is a genius, not perfect in all but the good parts count.
Lucas would be a total goner though without his artists and staff that made up and designed all those creatures and vehicles and the worlds . Many seem to forget that.

The newest films also seems to complete the experiment of an agemixed audience. That way they reached a broader crowd and gained new fans wich enabled them to breath life in the old films.
The hardcore starwarers still would buy a ticket and the videos but in addition they reached new consumers and a new base for sales of toys and the other stuff.
Perhaps not very artistic but **** good business.

My two ├┬Âres worth http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

skabbe
05-08-2005, 05:24 AM
well, i think you like the new ones if you know the whole story. its so much more then you think. the story goes back 20 000 years. but i dont like the computer effects. dont know whats worse, photorealistisc things with real lightening and real objects that moves a bit funny or non photorealistic things without real objects, but moves quite good... movies like Alien 1 would suck with new digital cameras that leves no personality to the picture.. thats mt thoughts

Monson74
05-08-2005, 05:26 AM
I just wish he had made them more gothic - maybe there is hope for the 3rd one. He should have let David Fincher do them...

Hristos
05-08-2005, 05:56 AM
If Darth Vader flew FB, he'd fly a Fw 190.

'nuff said http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

F19_Ob
05-08-2005, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Hristos:
If Darth Vader flew FB, he'd fly a Fw 190.

'nuff said http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


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I'm pretty convinced he would go out in the p11 to attract bugs and then snap the opponents necks when within the force-distance.

JamesBlonde888
05-08-2005, 06:15 AM
A black Me-262 with red pin-stripes for Darth I think. Look like being the first watchable film in this cruddy new series though. I might get along to watch it.

F19_Olli72
05-08-2005, 06:16 AM
Yup, FW 190 is more for ppl like this:
http://theboxset.com/images/reviewcaptures/298cap010.jpg

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SeaNorris
05-08-2005, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by Hristos:
If Darth Vader flew FB, he'd fly a Fw 190.

'nuff said http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Ankanor
05-08-2005, 06:37 AM
in that context the P-47 is for guys like
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/ankanor-jabbah.jpg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Let's don't start on the P-51
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/ankanor-JARJAR.jpg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
and The IL-2 http://server2.uploadit.org/files/ankanor-lkdroid.jpg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

ForkTailedDevil
05-08-2005, 09:08 AM
I love Star Wars always will. The last two films were lacking a little. Sure Hayden (Anakin) is probably not the best actor but neither were Luke or Leia.

LStarosta
05-08-2005, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Ankanor:
also, back then there were no 3.2 GHz Pentiums.

They were made on Macs anyway...

Chuck_Older
05-08-2005, 09:37 AM
Folks who say they like Star Wars and who also don't like Episodes I and II probably dislike them because they aren't the continuing adventures of Han Luke and Leia

Lucas had the back story of all the initial episodes (IV V and VI) made up a long time ago. He isn't 'milking' anything. Ever notice that the first star Wars movie was Episode IV, when it came out in 1977?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Christensen himself has stated that he couldn't understand why his character was two dimensional in Episode II. He says that now since they have made Episode II, he understands why his character was like that

I *think* he may have more insight into this than the average fan that has never even been on a soundstage http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

This is George Lucas' vision of his Universe. The trouble is, his fans populated that Universe in their own minds almost 30 years ago and they expect to see what *they* envision on the movie screen. When it doesn't happen "the movie sucked"

I've done a bit of looking into Episode III. I and II weren't perfect movies but I enjoyed them. Episode I was a kids movie in a lot of ways, but then again...you fell in love with the films when you were kids, right?

Episode III is going to be a little different. It's going to fill in a lot of things that you haven't considered, like what was going on between vader and Obi-Wan in their fight on the Death Star. The movie is also going to show Anakin/vader kicking butt- and still not being as good as Obi-Wan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Incidentally, Ewan Macgregor's uncle played Wedge Antilles in the original three films, did you know? I saw some footage of Macgregor and Christensen practicing their fight choreography- wow. It will knock your socks off when you see their fight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

smatchimo
05-08-2005, 09:37 AM
Not meant to be a flame but, "lacking a little"?, those were two of the worst movies ever made. Again just my opinion for the fun of it, I just cant sit by when people give those two movies ANY credit.

-Cheers!

Chuck_Older
05-08-2005, 09:42 AM
Could you be bothered to do more than say they were no good, or is your opinion that unshakeably the truth? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

'Plan 9 from outer space' is one of the worst movies ever made. but it's till enjoyable. It's just not a good example of film making

Ep. I and II were indeed good films, you just didn't like them, which is not the same thing. There is a WHOLE lot more to good film making than your personal regard for the story, you know

if you could begin to relate what you felt were the movies weak points, you might see that your personal dislike for the stories were the sole reason you say they have no good points. Cinematography, score, acting (ALL actors not just the ones you dislike), pacing, editting, choreography of action scenes...there's more to movies than you think, I think

Ankanor
05-08-2005, 10:42 AM
chuck, do you mind sharing the source of the choreography of The Duel?


I simply loved Star Wars. I watched it first in 1996 I guess, at the time when Lucas made the extended editions. I was so in the story... during the scene with the pilots being briefed before the Death Star Run, The General says something of the "man you planes" sort. Well, me and the 2 friends of mine, we did. We stood up... And then we discovered we were in a movie theater... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Chuck_Older
05-08-2005, 11:08 AM
Not at all would I mind.

I saw the footage on the Boxed set of Star Wars DVDs, in the extra features section, or whatever they called it, bonus material, special features, I forget.

BigKahuna_GS
05-08-2005, 11:47 AM
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Chuck---Folks who say they like Star Wars and who also don't like Episodes I and II probably dislike them because they aren't the continuing adventures of Han Luke and Leia


I disagree Chuck. That little kid was annoying as hell and that Jar-Jar Binks charecter--well I was hoping Obi Wan would shut him up permanetly with a light saber--me thinks. The next film was much better, but needed more editing of some scenes, also some of the special blue screen effects looked bad for a modern film. Look at the scene where Anakin tries to ride the space cow on Padme's home planet and falls off--terrible looking.

The Lord of Rings series was outstanding from beginning to end and the special CGI effects were excellent. I hope this last Star Wars movie can match up to Lord of the Rings quality.

Hristos I agree with you !
Darth vader would of flown the biggest baddest 190 out there with hyper drive, 30mm proton plasma guns and he would of been doing warp 10 all day long with his hair on fire http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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ploughman
05-08-2005, 11:58 AM
posted Sun May 08 2005 05:15
A black Me-262 with red pin-stripes for Darth I think. Look like being the first watchable film in this cruddy new series though. I might get along to watch it.
http://aeroflt.users.netlink.co.uk/mus/israel/idf11.jpg

Sort of like this elliptically winged terror?

Chuck_Older
05-08-2005, 11:58 AM
Sure, Anikin was annoying. And Jar Jar...well, you're right, I wanted him to die elaborately

But, your personal dislike of those characters do not spoil the film as a film- they spoil the film for you.

Jar Jar is actually a very good chracter development tool for Obi-Wan, if you pay attention in the first film. Obi-Wan is xenophobic (dislikes aliens). Obi-Wan is a flawed hero- it makes him more human and you identify with him more. Without that flaw, he's a plain vanilla good guy who has a bad student. With the flaw he's even guilty of too much pride in trying to teach Anakin, and the galaxy pays for his arrogance.

It's actually a very intelligent twist to Obi-Wan's character that few folks seem to have picked up on

Ankanor
05-08-2005, 12:45 PM
Besides JarJar being the "humanizator" of OB-1 Kenobi (kinda sounds like a android name, doesn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ) I have been told he is the personification of the "american dream" - even the dumbest could speak in front of the world and be heard. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Sorry, couldn't resist it...

Or like Quai-Gon Jin said "The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Looking at what I just produced, it's true... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

BigKahuna_GS
05-08-2005, 12:54 PM
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Chuck--But, your personal dislike of those characters do not spoil the film as a film- they spoil the film for you.



No Chuck it just didnt spoil the film for me. It spoiled the film for about 85%+ of the people that viewed it. There was a link, I cant find it now and a huge percentage of people disliked the film because of those charectors.

I am a fan of the Star Wars series. I have the boxed DVD collection with portions of the new Episode III fight scene. I think Lucas is a brilliant filmaker, but the quality and content of his work slipped in Episode I & II.

Lucas could take note of the proper way to make epic serial films in the Lord of the Rings trilogy.


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F19_Olli72
05-08-2005, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older: And Jar Jar...well, you're right, I wanted him to die elaborately

Lets hope, if theres any justice in this world he'll buy the farm in EP3. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

han freak solo
05-08-2005, 01:42 PM
http://www.lssdigital.com/DarkHelmutHuckebein.jpg

Seriously, go see "Kung Fu Hustle".

JuHa-
05-08-2005, 01:47 PM
Ep. I

I really hoped that Anakin would have pressed 'Ignition on' when JarJar's hand was stuck into
the engine. He didn't and I end up with tearing my jeans into shreads out of sheer disguist.

Ep. II

Enjoyable film after I realized to turn off the sound in the love scenes. Improved the acting
to bearable level.

Ep III

The trend seems good, so this should be better than I & II - I expect a good one out of this!

VFA-195 Snacky
05-08-2005, 04:09 PM
I just went back and watched return of the Jedi. Amazing the little things you pick up on after the fact.

fabianfred
05-08-2005, 07:35 PM
why does evryone hate the kid Anakin in episode 1...?

he's supposed to be extra special in many ways, but I don't see him as being all that precocious...

kid stars in many other movies are a real pain

fordfan25
05-08-2005, 08:57 PM
EP1 was lame to me. it started off strong but realy went down hill fast. EP2 was ok sept for the corny lines. even still it had more flavor than the first. iv read the book for EP3 and it seems like its going to be a bit better. i think thay have been to raped up in effects and not enough in the script and or acting skills.

karost
05-08-2005, 09:27 PM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050411/050411_darthVader_hmed2_3p.hmedium.jpg

Ok before we will see EPIII, I found one good read here

STARWARS TECHNICAL COMMENTARIES (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/injuries.html)

after you read then please share your farvor idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S ~

-HH-Quazi
05-08-2005, 10:41 PM
Well, I was one of the many thousands that stood outside and nearly two blocks away from the theatre doors just to see the first one. At the tender age of 13, I was mezmorized. And you younger m8's need to remember that in 1977 there was no such thing as a personal PC. The only PC's that were around actually filled up rooms the size of my 2000sq. ft. home. We were still using 8-track tape players and vinyl records to listen to our favorite artists. Cable? What was cable. I stood outside turning the TV antenna until my dad would holler to "stop it right there", trying to tune in one of the three channels we were able to pick up. So, seeing the effects that are in the first Star Wars movie had a dramatic effect on everyone that saw it. It blew me away. Oddly enough, the introduction at the beginning of the movie where the words looked like they were actually traveling further away from me really freaked me out. HEHE.

I won't knock the other movies. They were alright I guess. I do look forward to the new one.

fordfan25
05-08-2005, 11:36 PM
i know whatcha mean HH. i was born in 77 so i saw the first in the early/mid 80s even then it was wow. but i have to say ewok adventer was uber. that blaster rifle the kid had reminds me of my m1 30cal carbine. "dang it baby just one more shot. dont jam, dont jam, dont jam " as the hog gets closer and closer with those razor teeth lol. one time i had to actully use my frickn knife grrrrr.

GAU-8
05-09-2005, 12:32 AM
i prefer the first 3 movies compared to the last 2 and upcomming one..my personal reasons.

1.computer graphics SUCK when it comes to backgrounds, space battles scenes, characters its too "slick" i prefer the older model ability.
the SR-71 knock off in chrome was total cheese.amomng many other things

2. i dislike how everything ties in is sooo close knit. like a neighborhood full of incest families.
. the droid built by anakin..which serves luke later.
. bobba fetts pops is master of clone process, then son later in life dons a suit resembling clones,father..not the way id go about doin it.

3....bah, ill stop complainin.

i like the series for the most part, but get rid of the CG, and loosen up the plot a little it. feels like "6 degrees of obiwan kenobi"

ploughman
05-09-2005, 04:45 AM
Yeah, it's a small galaxy. Next you'll be telling me Chewbaca's going to show up in Return of the Sith.

HotelBushranger
05-09-2005, 05:32 AM
The old series' characters had real chemistry. They worked well so incredibly well, I'd watch the old ones just for the talking scenes. The new ones rely waaay to heavily on CG to make it look good, and rely less on the actors acting. I remember then X-Wings in the first one, when they're forming up for the attack on the Death Star, were actually tiny models smaller than your hand. Now that's hardcore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif