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MB_Avro_UK
05-30-2007, 04:20 PM
Hi all,

Vid of a replica of the prototype Spitfire that first flew in 1936.

Landings are not always easy in a narrow undercarriage Spit...similar to the Me 109 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

The owner is of course not too happy but the pilot did his best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWSvKT6h3ro&mode=related&search=


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Jasko76
05-30-2007, 05:09 PM
Thankfully, the damage seems to be very minor. One can clearly see the right leg bend on the first contact with the ground - I suggest they use stronger bolts next time. Beautiful aircraft, by the way!

Xiolablu3
05-30-2007, 05:15 PM
Hehe uses a Jaguar car engine!!

Quite amazing really.

Even Real SPitfire Mk1's had over 1000hp.

What will the Jaguar car engine have? Around 300hp at the most? Must feel very underpowered compared to a real Spitfire..

ARCHIE_CALVERT
05-30-2007, 05:25 PM
That's Bruce Hockin... He 's not been on HTV for... God knows how many years... Ha!

Didn't look to bad though, wonder what happened to it?

Nice... MB!

Philipscdrw
05-30-2007, 05:59 PM
The dialogue was funny with the pilot, Pete Thorne :

Presenter: "Obviously the undercarriage gave way."
Pete: "Yup."
Presenter: "You then took a decision to come onto the grass?"
Pete: "*laughs* there was no decision at all, I was taken!"
Presenter: "When were you aware there was trouble?"
Pete: "When the undercarriage collapsed?"
Presenter: "Just as it collapsed."
Pete: "Yes."

Off-camera, presenter: "The owner, who was following in another plane, refused to talk about the incident."
I'm not suprised, with such quality questioning...

The pilot was clearly more interested in what had happened to his lovely aeroplane than in talking to the cameraman...

Sergio_101
05-30-2007, 06:46 PM
A better choice for 7/8 scale replicas like that Spit.

The "Falconer V-12"

http://www.thundermustang.com/falconer.htm

Based on the 400cid small block Chevy it's
a 90 degree V-12.

A cut in compression and a pair of turbo superchargers
sould easily push the power into the 1,000hp range.

It's rated at 640 hp @ 4500 rpm.

I doubt more than 300 reliable hp could be
developed by a Jaguar V-12.
More for the short term perhaps.
Remember most aircraft run at nearly 100% BMEP
at all times, roughly 75% power at well under
max RPM.

Sergio

ElAurens
05-30-2007, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Hehe uses a Jaguar car engine!!



That would be the V-12 engine from the pre Ford days. As used in the Lister Storm (for example) it displaces 7 litres (427 cubic inches) and makes in excess of 600 BHP.

ElAurens
05-30-2007, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Sergio_101:
I doubt more than 300 reliable hp could be
developed by a Jaguar V-12.
Sergio

Sergio, that engine has won the 24 Hours of LeMans, and I assure you it made far more than 300 bhp.

Sergio_101
05-31-2007, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sergio_101:
I doubt more than 300 reliable hp could be
developed by a Jaguar V-12.
Sergio

Sergio, that engine has won the 24 Hours of LeMans, and I assure you it made far more than 300 bhp. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No one in their right mind turns an aircraft engine that hard.
At LeMans you can pit if your engine tosses a rod.
In stock form the Jag V-12 is not a good motor.
Pretty lame in stock form, but at least
it's unreliable.
I have a friend that made himself a good living
transplanting small block Chevys into pre Ford
Jaguars to replace both the 6 and 12.
Yuppies with their Jags in need of an engine
found it cheaper to toss a Chevy V8
in, and found that it made their rides
reliable, performed better and got
better fuel economy.

Pre Ford Jags were classy but un reliable.
Lucas electrical systems did not help.

My buddy had a 15' high mountain of old Jaguar
engines up till last year.
He sold them by the LB for scrap.

Time has taken it's toll and there are few
Jags left worth the work.
But after seeing so many spun bearings
blown rods, dropped valves and other mayhem
in Jaguar V-12s I would NEVER have
one in my car, let alone a airplane!

sergio