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Riper-Snifle
03-12-2005, 09:14 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050312/ennew_afp/afplifestylefilm_050312192920

Peter Jackson did an unbelievable job on bringing the Lord of the Rings trilogy to the big screen. But, as the article shows he is being held up on doing The Hobbit to complete the series by everyone's favorite----- LAWYERS!!! Yes the lawyers are greedy and screw over audiences and gamers for their own profit instead of allowing the world to keep turning!!! Hang in there Oleg!!! WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LAWYER AND AN ONION??? EVERYONE CRIES WHEN THEY CUT UP AN ONION!!!!

p1ngu666
03-12-2005, 09:35 PM
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keep thinkin of simpsons sketch where someone says "imagine the world without lawyers"

sunshine, flowers, everyone happy...

LEXX_Luthor
03-13-2005, 12:26 AM
Lawyers across the land in BoB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Blackdog5555
03-13-2005, 11:33 AM
Welly, Rip-Snifle. All the teenage and/or redneck pin heads in the red states love to applaud Bill O'Riley when he blames lawyers for everything from high insurance to mad cow disease. Who did he hire when he was caught sexually harrassing one of his workers. Certainly didn't hire a teenage redneck who watches movies instead of going to school. I can tell you that attorneys could give 2 skirts about ownership of something as stupid as a Movie. MGM and New Line Cinema, two massive corporations care, not the lawyers. Attorneys are hired by Greedy Corp. to represent greedy corporations like Lockheed or Sony or pin heads who get busted for smoking pot. And Rip Im not calling you a teenage redneck from a red state. You just sound like one. LOL. Cheers BD

murewa
03-13-2005, 11:54 AM
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DEATH TO GREEDY CORP! VIVE LA REVOLUTION

Latico
03-13-2005, 12:49 PM
Get a life, people!!

How many of you are willing to give away your labor to someone else that stands to make a fortune on that labor? The answer to that is NONE OF US. And why? Are we GREEDY HORDES? No. Our labor has value to someone else and we're going to milk it for all it's worth.

If we have something that someone else wants, are we just going to hand it over? No, because what we have has value to the other person so we are going to milk it for all it's worth. Are we GREEDY SOB's for doing so? I think not.

Copyright ownership is here to stay. Get use to it, learn to live with it.

Step back from the PC and get a life!!!

Riper-Snifle
03-13-2005, 03:51 PM
Dear Blackdog5555,
I live in New York, it doesn't get more blue state than that. I also do not identify with either conservatives or liberals, I have varying opinions on different issues which fall on both sides of the fence. When Peter Jackson first pitched the idea of the Lord of the Rings movies the movie corporations wanted him to do the three books in ONE movie. Anyone who has read the books or seen the movies can tell how much would have been left out as a result. Peter Jackson stuck to his guns and risked not having a movie project at all but in the end got the RIGHT movie done. I have no problem with Grumman protecting its copyrights, but lets face it, the U.S. NAvy isn't buying anymore TBF Avengers for the fleet. This entire problem is not about the use of the plane in the game it is about the name being used in advertissement. This is an easy fix of removing the name, paying a settlement and moving on, but the LAWYERS have gone further than that and THAT is what I take issue with. My brother is a lawyer and I understand the need for them but I also understand why there are so many jokes written about them. Cheers.

cpirrmann
03-13-2005, 04:09 PM
Blackdog, your eloquence is only excelled by your ignorance. I'll give your opinion the same condescention you gave others'. You have my pity and disdain. Howeve, it is true, that lawyers wouldn't sue if they didn't have clients who wanted them too. Also, drug dealers wouldn't sell if they didn't have clients who wanted them too. Supplying a demand doesn't always make it right.BTW, I live in a red state and I think Bill O'Reilly is a hippocrate but not for the reason you mentioned. This is really a complex issue that only exists because the interested parties are taking the issue to logical extremes whereas it could be resolved easily with a little commmon sense and fairness.

xrvjorn
03-13-2005, 05:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Latico:
How many of you are willing to give away your labor to someone else that stands to make a fortune on that labor? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thus you prevent Oleg and the simming community from flying Avengers on their PCs. Is that going to increase your wealth? No, it's just going to prevent people from doing interesting and fun stuff. And, of course, add to the perception of lawyers as bullies and parasites.

You chose your own image. Now, you must live with it.

ploughman
03-13-2005, 05:23 PM
Allied Lawyers are over-modelled. Axis lawyers are porked. By the way, about my .50 cal lawsuit. It doesn't seem to have made the impact I'd hoped.

Eraser_tr
03-13-2005, 05:28 PM
It's not the lawyer, it is who they represent.

With all the irritating legal **** that goes on these days, I'm thinking of going into law with a goal to protect people from such ****.

It is one thing to protect copyrights and intellectual property, everyone needs to do that. but with the way things are going these days, its out of hand. Nobody has built WW2 era planes since WW2, very few of them saw any service afterwards. none of them are in service now. nobody loses any money for a plane being in a game. What will be next? I have to pay bell for watching a movie that their helicopter is used in?

Cess-SGTRoc
03-13-2005, 05:28 PM
(Howeve, it is true, that lawyers wouldn't sue if they didn't have clients who wanted them too).

Not quite true, endless trolling for people to come foward to let them help get money for them. Endless class suites where the Lawyers get thousands or millions, and the people in the Class suit get 15-25 dollars each.
No,we may need lawyers, but we do not need as many as we have. And we do not need about 3/4 of the laws that they get passed.

My family owns a law firm lol. And I don't even like what is going on. And most of them do not eather, but as I was told at a family get together , we got what we have because people set around and let it become what it is.
But it is changing.

Latico
03-13-2005, 05:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xrvjorn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Latico:
How many of you are willing to give away your labor to someone else that stands to make a fortune on that labor? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thus you prevent Oleg and the simming community from flying Avengers on their PCs. Is that going to increase your wealth? No, it's just going to prevent people from doing interesting and fun stuff. And, of course, add to the perception of lawyers as bullies and parasites.

You chose your own image. Now, you must live with it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really.

If I know the value of my labor and request to be paid that value and the one who wants my labor aggrees to pay my request, then we both get what we want.

If the aircraft company requires a licnesing fee to be paid and the one wanting the licnese aggrees to pay it, there won't be any denial of useage. Therefore, if the dev decides to pay the fee, WE get the Avenger (or whatever). All the Dev has to do is pass the cost of the license to the consumer, just like they do all the other expenses of producing the sim. If the dev doesn't want to pay the fee, then who is denying the consumer something?

Is that so hard to figure out.

EnGaurde
03-13-2005, 05:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> teenage redneck <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i always smile when i see this, i understand redneck originated from an insult aimed at early americans, literally calling him/her a british soldier.

apparently the redneck-ness comes from the lilly white brit soldiers getting sunburnt on the backs of their necks.

i still laugh thinking this is supposed to be a put down, it seems kinda obvious to me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

im mean, how bizarre would it be if everyone simply used sunburnt british soldier instead...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Welly, Rip-Snifle. All the teenage and/or sunburnt british soldier pin heads in the red states love to applaud Bill O'Riley when he blames lawyers for everything from high insurance to mad cow disease. Who did he hire when he was caught sexually harrassing one of his workers. Certainly didn't hire a teenage sunburnt british soldier who watches movies instead of going to school. I can tell you that attorneys could give 2 skirts about ownership of something as stupid as a Movie. MGM and New Line Cinema, two massive corporations care, not the lawyers. Attorneys are hired by Greedy Corp. to represent greedy corporations like Lockheed or Sony or pin heads who get busted for smoking pot. And Rip Im not calling you a teenage sunburnt british soldier from a sunburnt british soldier state. You just sound like one. LOL. Cheers BD <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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badaboom.1
03-13-2005, 06:16 PM
Latico,I agree with your comments 100%BTW If the Avenger is already in the sim[whitch it is]What laws would 1C be breaking by making it flyable?

GT182
03-13-2005, 06:34 PM
Badaboom.1, all to true, but.... what about the maker of the instruments, seats, knobby things, and gunsights in all the cockpits? Wouldn't they want their cut too???

BTW, this was just a dumb*ssed thought. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Lawyers and who they represent need not reply. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Riper-Snifle
03-13-2005, 09:55 PM
Hey GT182,
You ever hear about the Terrorists that hijacked a plane full of lawyers??? They threatened to release one every hour that their demands were not met!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

xrvjorn
03-14-2005, 06:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Latico:
If the dev doesn't want to pay the fee, then who is denying the consumer something?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We all know that only an idiot would pay license for an airplane that they don't even build, but only model. It would be just as stupid as paying the Australian government license money because you took pictures on your trip to the outback.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Latico:
Is that so hard to figure out.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it's hard to figure out the extreme extent of some peoples unfathomable greed. That is because most people don't have much experience of such people in social life. We avoid their company, consciously or by instinct, because they are downright unpleasant and create a bad atmosphere.

On the other hand, it is even harder for those who are blinded by short sighted greed, to figure why other people loathe and despise them.

Tobus75
03-14-2005, 06:52 AM
What?? Lawyers in the next patch???
GREAT!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I can see it now: Me flying my favourite 109G2 doing a solo sweep. Suddenly I see something glinting below in the sun. I circle down and make an id: a flight of lawyers!! I like these, because I know they have a sucky damagemodel, though can twist themselves in all kinds of knots just so they can turn their heavy guns on you. I dive down to do a pass. They can't see me because I'm coming out of the sun. A long burst of all guns sends this jammering whimp of a lawyer to his fiery grave, his aircraft trailing legal documents as it spirals to the ground. His partner is onto me now though and turns on me. I outclimb him and through a series of manouvers manage to get on his tail. I close for the kill, but suddenly his tail erupts in muzzleflashes, spitting out legal objections and precedents towards my 109. "****, he must have a legal-aid trainee in the back", I think. Oh well, a present lawyer or a future lawyer in one stroke is a bonus!! I let my guns rip into his aircraft, skewering his briefcase full of legal documents in the process. After a steep dive he slams into the ground. Satisfied I see no shutes as I head for home.

The next day I got sued by the enemy for shooting down 2 of their lawyers. Although they were flying in enemy territory in armed aircraft in a warsituation, they claim not to have instigated the battle and now their next-of-kin (all lawyers offcourse) are sueing for damages. No biggie, I'll just show up in court with my 2nd favourite aircraft, the A20...
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xrvjorn
03-14-2005, 07:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tobus75:
... his aircraft trailing legal documents as it spirals to the ground. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds a lot like SCO...

If you see Darl McBride hanging in a chute, let him have it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Da_Godfatha
03-14-2005, 01:20 PM
A little known fact is that in the early days of America (till about 1800 I think) there was a Law against Lawyers!!! It was one of the forbidden trades, what happened after that, no one knows!

"And that`s the rest of the story!"

darkhorizon11
03-14-2005, 06:14 PM
"Rights to the J. R. R. Tolkien novel are split between MGM and New Line Cinema."

Okay, on a more serious note as much as this is ******ed its still not as bad as what 1c is dealing with. They're dealing with companies trying to hold onto a piece of history for menial profit. Thats pathetic.

This on the other hand is a little different just because here you have two movie producing corporations. The BIG DEAL here is that going by the success of LOTR whoever is granted rights to the Hobbit stands to make millions, maybe billions if you include merchandicing etc...

However, once again, greed takes over... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Philipscdrw
03-14-2005, 06:38 PM
When I'm Minister of Defense in Whitehall, I will remember Northrop Grumman and their specific instances of pettiness. And then buy from BAe, IAI and EADS instead.

Philipscdrw
03-14-2005, 06:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eraser_tr:
Nobody has built WW2 era planes since WW2, very few of them saw any service afterwards. none of them are in service now. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not true, the Greek Air Force has 2 C-47s still in service. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

xrvjorn
03-15-2005, 06:31 AM
Just learned this from a photo forum: If you want to publish night photos of Paris, you have to erase the Eiffel tower from the pictures. Otherwise you'll get sued by the company that provides the illumination. IMHO, if you want to prevent people from looking at a building, you shouldn't be allowed to place that building in public view. Stash it in your basement if it's so bl**dy secret!

Another funny case: if you buy "Alice in Wonderland" as an Adobe ebook, you're a criminal if you read it for your kids, since you're not permitted to read it aloud. So, get the paper version instead and you wont get a swarm of Adobe lawyers following you around.

Texas LongHorn
03-15-2005, 10:28 AM
Hey Philip, are you serious about the old C-47 in Greek service? I wouldn't doubt it though, nothing like a plane over twice the age of the pilot! All the the best, LongHorn