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DKoor
03-06-2007, 02:01 PM
You know health and all that... so do you work out in the gym or at least regularly work on yer physical strength (running, weight training etc. etc. you name it)?
After some time I finally started again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
03-06-2007, 02:06 PM
Weight training 5 days a week.

faustnik
03-06-2007, 02:38 PM
Here's a little warning, <span class="ev_code_RED">protect your feet</span>.

I normally work out regularly, weight lifting, hiking and stationary bike riding. Thanks to playing too much softball, I have developed a severe case of plantar fasciitis.

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic429.htm

Now, walking from one room to the next is an adventure in pain. I have gained 10 pounds in the last 6 months too. I can still do some weightlifting but, any CV is difficult.

So, I guess the moral is, watch for any kind of over-exercise.

StellarRat
03-06-2007, 02:42 PM
Racquetball four or five nights a week. About five or six game per session.

MEGILE
03-06-2007, 02:44 PM
My last year's resolution was to not look like a bean pole any more.

Weight-lifting, 3 days a week.

I squat heavy and deep so I cry and go tell mommy i did a booboo.
One day I will have guns like Havok

pwengland
03-06-2007, 02:54 PM
12 oz. curls. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

DKoor
03-06-2007, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
Here's a little warning, <span class="ev_code_RED">protect your feet</span>.
So, I guess the moral is, watch for any kind of over-exercise. Can't point this enough. Once I had one nasty Achilles tendon injury... gotta tell you, not only I couldn't run anymore, I couldn't even walk like a normal person.
All because I neglect light injury which quickly became demonic one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

That is valid for any type of over-exercise and "light injuries". It is thin line from that to bad injury. Better to 100% recover first then to risk continuing with full training...

BillyTheKid_22
03-06-2007, 03:48 PM
EveryDay and Mountain Bike!!!! Lots of Fun!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif



http://www.cyprusholidayguide.com/details/biketrek/Troodos_Photo.jpg

LStarosta
03-06-2007, 03:55 PM
I do lots of push ups because I mess up a lot.

BuzzU
03-06-2007, 04:46 PM
I'm a Greek God.

MB_Avro_UK
03-06-2007, 04:48 PM
hi all,

Brisk walking for 30 minutes each day is the best exercise. No physical stresses or injuries and no Gym costs.

And the scenery is better than a gym mirror... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

VW-IceFire
03-06-2007, 04:51 PM
Typically...although I'm still feeling some winter hibernation...I'll run 2-3 times a week for 30 minutes or so. During the winter its on an elliptical which is far more boring and not nearly as strenuous.

I really want to get back to playing (real) football/soccer (however you want to slice that) but finding teams is hard once you get into your 20s it seems. Too young for the old timers and too old for the wee little ones.

I also used to referee which was a 3 hour workout every night chasing kids and yelling at coaches but that was a little wearing on the nerves.

Warrington_Wolf
03-06-2007, 04:52 PM
What a coincidence, I cancelled my gym membership this evening because I finally had enough with the place. I got fed of the waiting to use equipment (my record is 20 minutes for a treadmill, then I gave up and buggered off home). Then when you were on equipment the "sted-heads" would keep bugging people (including me) constantly asking "how many more sets?" or "how long have you got left to run"? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. What really pissed me off that there was not enough equipment to go around and yet the staff were STILL showing people around and signing them up.
I wouldn't mind the wait if the equipment was in decent shape but it wasn't, it was often not working as it should or not working at all.
Just before Christmas 9 out of 12 treadmills were out of action and they didn't get fixed until mid January and even then 4 of them had restrictions, you couldn't go faster than 4 mph because in their words it "has a tendency to stop suddenly" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif.
The music that they played was also a major headache (I literally had a headache when I left), because all they would play was all this techno trance bollocks at maximum volume. I even took my iPOD with me and tried to listen to Metallica or Iron Maiden (perfect for running) and I couldn't hear it because the music was that loud.
I tried to complain but the management is non existent and the "trainers" (I use that term very loosely) couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif.
I have now decided to take up Karate again, it is 8 years since I last did it so there is a lot of rust that I will need to shake off. I cannot wait to start doing it again and I have really missed it since my last club went bust.

P.S. The so called gym that I went to was owned by JJB, I am naming and shaming them because I don't want others to waste their money on this poor quality excuse for a gym.

P.P.S. if anyone asks "wasn't there anything good about it?", there was one, the bird on the desk was gorgeous but that was about it.

DKoor
03-06-2007, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
I really want to get back to playing (real) football/soccer (however you want to slice that) but finding teams is hard once you get into your 20s it seems. Too young for the old timers and too old for the wee little ones. LoL my problem exactly. We used to play small soccer EVERY day. Nowadays I don't play at all, everyone is preoccupied with other things in life, it seems. So Gym is the only "solution" I can work out for now...

It isn't bad, but it can get a bit sterile over the time... I know I already worked out there for years. But TBH man get used to that, and what seems to be really hard physical effort to other people who do not work out regularly (or at all) is laughable to a guy who work out in the gym regularly.
be it running on the track, bicycle, weight training, rowing or else... Every day... but today, I'm in pathetic shape and it'll took several months before I retain my old fitness level. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Also I feel that many of us share @Warrington_Wolf's Gym problem. Too many people at the same time... can be major p@in in the arse. So I decided to avoid "rush-hour", people seem to either directly go to a gym from work, or they have a snack and then go for it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
So now I avoid that time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

BillyTheKid_22
03-06-2007, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Typically...although I'm still feeling some winter hibernation...I'll run 2-3 times a week for 30 minutes or so. During the winter its on an elliptical which is far more boring and not nearly as strenuous.

I really want to get back to playing (real) football/soccer (however you want to slice that) but finding teams is hard once you get into your 20s it seems. Too young for the old timers and too old for the wee little ones.

I also used to referee which was a 3 hour workout every night chasing kids and yelling at coaches but that was a little wearing on the nerves.


I love Soccer!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Altocirrus
03-06-2007, 05:17 PM
I'm a student, so there's no way I can afford gym membership. I try to get in ample walking and a little running, as well as a few press-ups, pull-ups and sit-ups. By far the most fun is flying my powerkite in a gale, boy does that give you a workout http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

The annoying thing is, after all that I still have the biceps of a 12 year old http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Ares_336sqn
03-06-2007, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by BuzzU:
I'm a Greek God.

daddy? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

M2morris
03-06-2007, 05:32 PM
I lift wieghts 3 or 4 times a week, running; not much anymore. I ran the US West marathon in Seatle in 87, one in Salem Oregon in 88, then the Frankfurt marathon in 90, and the Shamrock sportsfest marathon in VA beach in 95. In the shamrock marathon I didnt very good, it took me 4 hours and after I was passed at the 21 mile mark by a guy wearing a kirmit the frog suit,(yes) and a 72 year old man, I decided to let the marathon thing go and just do 10 ks or ten milers. My best marathon time was 3 hrs and 35 min. I have gained 25 pounds since retiring from the Army, but I have still been lifting wieghts so at least I am still doing somthing.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I can lift my wife and do whats needed there(118 pounds) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

skarden
03-06-2007, 05:49 PM
To echo what everyboby else is sayin you really cant go wrong with some sort of physical exercise,Not only is it good for your body(duh) it also does great things for your mind,teach's disipline,dedication and most of all(i think)it gives you confidence in your self. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But as the others say as well MAKE SURE you have the right gear,if your jogging get some jogging shoes,and ease into it,if your doing some weight training do some reasearch on it(there's heaps of sites and books to check out) as doing it wrong can really do damage to a body that isn't used to it(or even if it is).

Oh yeah your inceased stamina through sport and exercise will also increase your stamihna in ah.........other area's of your life http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Good luck and remember like most things worth doing in life,it's not easy but easly worth doing.

ImpStarDuece
03-06-2007, 06:55 PM
I'm training for a triathlon in July and a martial arts trip to Brazil in June, so at the moment I train about 10-12 times a week:

Capoeira: 4-5 times a week (Wed, Thurs evenings, twice Saturday and once on Sunday)

Gymnastics/acrobatics: 1-2 times a week (Every Tues evening and occasionally Friday, if I'm not to busy)

Weights: 1-2 times a week (Every Monday evening and sometimes a light session on Wed evening before Capoeria training)

Running/Swimming: Mon, Wed, Thurs, Fri lunchtimes at work. Variety of stuff, including fartlek and interval training, as well as longer 40-50 minute runs.

Cycling: Friday and (sometimes) Sunday morning, between one and two hours, depending on who I train with (I hang out with some guys who cycle up to 5000 km a year).

Normally I'd do about 75% of the above, cutting out a running session, a capoeria session, a bike session and a weights session, but I like to keep busy...

Brain32
03-06-2007, 07:19 PM
Weight training 3-4days a week, and basketball whenever I have time and weather conditions are suitable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

horseback
03-06-2007, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
hi all,

Brisk walking for 30 minutes each day is the best exercise. No physical stresses or injuries and no Gym costs.

And the scenery is better than a gym mirror... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro. You must not live in MY neighborhood. I ride a stationary bike while watching the news or "That Seventies Show" reruns. Like Faustnik, I've had a few bouts of plantar fasciitis myself; the natural result of trying to run 'laps' on the deck of a fast frigate while at sea (I did my sea time before this Golden Age of properly cushioned running shoes).

cheers

horseback

Lucius_Esox
03-07-2007, 07:29 AM
Regular excercise is a good recipe for a happy life.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Airmail109
03-07-2007, 08:57 AM
I work out 4 times a week, mountainbike, rock climb and do a 15 mile walk once a week with a 60 pound rucksack. Then top it off with some target shooting.

Once a month i go off to snowdonia, the breacon beacons, lake district or the peak district for a large walk.

It keeps me happy. I get very bored and unhappy sitting on my arse just doing school work.

domenlovrec
03-07-2007, 09:18 AM
No. I don't have time + i can't afford swimming or something like that when i have time.

bazzaah2
03-07-2007, 09:25 AM
been a bit lazy over the winter but dusted off my bike the other week and working up to some good long runs out on that.

Otherwise a bit of jogging with the gf.

joeap
03-07-2007, 09:56 AM
Well gotta get into it when my break heals. Maybe I'll learn to fall correctly next time. Was an avid cyclist before, and love walking and am thinking of joining a gym.

jurinko
03-07-2007, 10:21 AM
http://www.mountain.sk/photos/460/IMG_1225.jpg

thats me!

BillyTheKid_22
03-07-2007, 10:34 AM
http://www.sdcmountainworks.com/image/photos/biking.jpg



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif



http://www.governor.state.nm.us/MEDIA/PDF/flag.jpg



I born in New Mexico!!!

I450IVex
03-07-2007, 10:37 AM
your going the wrong way on that hill Jurinko.
Downhill is where it's at!

BANZAI!

I ride 200-250k's a week, i need some weights training though - it's killing my back these days.

DKoor
03-07-2007, 11:06 AM
You crazy people with yer bikes... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I always liked my feet better... somehow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Perhaps it dates from times I was a kid, I fell at high speed on bike down into foundations of our new house that was under construction on some metal bars that were built-in concrete... spent month in hospital, busted my knee 100% http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
I was a crazy kid, tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

BillyTheKid_22
03-07-2007, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
You crazy people with yer bikes... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I always liked my feet better... somehow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Perhaps it dates from times I was a kid, I fell at high speed on bike down into foundations of our new house that was under construction on some metal bars that were built-in concrete... spent month in hospital, busted my knee 100% http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
I was a crazy kid, tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif



I am life!! Mountain Bike http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Downhill!!!

Deedsundone
03-07-2007, 11:10 AM
I walk in stairs about 3-5 hours a day and the rest of the hours I move my body a lot so I´m pretty tired to do something else than rest after work.Yup,I´m a janitor http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

BillyTheKid_22
03-07-2007, 11:54 AM
http://www.coastwhistlerhotel.com/images/mountain-biking-3.jpg



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

carguy_
03-07-2007, 05:08 PM
I spend a huge yearly pay on gym and all that.Weight lifting 3/4days a week and it really feels good!

Was playin football but no time to get buddies toghether so I had to figure out something else.

About 2years ago I was in a bad condition.It realy influenced not only my physical but also psychic condition..it was bad.Now I don`t have trouble with my spine,I can buy jeans whenever I want to and I look good in any kind of a t-shirthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


I am currently a different person with a different attitude towards life.I strongly enourage everyone to try any kind of sport regulary.It makes a man happy.

BuzzU
03-07-2007, 07:15 PM
I guess i'm the only Greek God.

BillyTheKid_22
03-07-2007, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by BuzzU:
I guess i'm the only Greek God.



http://artswork.asu.edu/arts/students/content/tb/costume_plates/greek_god.jpg



Greek God!!!

BuzzU
03-07-2007, 10:29 PM
Wrong one.

Airmail109
03-08-2007, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
You crazy people with yer bikes... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I always liked my feet better... somehow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Perhaps it dates from times I was a kid, I fell at high speed on bike down into foundations of our new house that was under construction on some metal bars that were built-in concrete... spent month in hospital, busted my knee 100% http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
I was a crazy kid, tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif



I am life!! Mountain Bike http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Downhill!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Steve Peat FTW, Downhilling mtbing rocks especially in the french alps or scotland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Morzine rocks for downhill....mmmmmm 50mph descents and huge drop offs

ViktorViktor
03-08-2007, 04:08 AM
Bicycles are unnatural. Who wants to sit on their testicles all day ?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Worf101
03-08-2007, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by ViktorViktor:
Bicycles are unnatural. Who wants to sit on their testicles all day ?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
+1 You tell em Ignatz!!! LOL
I lift weights at the gym about every other day. I love it when the young roid heads get smoked by this semi fat grey haired old man who's too poor to own and Ipod and wears Converse All Stars in basic black. Their eyes get so big when I put plate after plate on the bench.

"You want me to spot you?"
"Go teach your mother to suck eggs!!! When I can't lift it by my self, I'll stop trying to lift it!!"

Da Worfster

BillyTheKid_22
03-08-2007, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
You crazy people with yer bikes... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I always liked my feet better... somehow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Perhaps it dates from times I was a kid, I fell at high speed on bike down into foundations of our new house that was under construction on some metal bars that were built-in concrete... spent month in hospital, busted my knee 100% http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
I was a crazy kid, tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif



I am life!! Mountain Bike http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Downhill!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Steve Peat FTW, Downhilling mtbing rocks especially in the french alps or scotland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Morzine rocks for downhill....mmmmmm 50mph descents and huge drop offs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif LoL!!!

carguy_
03-08-2007, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Worf101:
I lift weights at the gym about every other day. I love it when the young roid heads get smoked by this semi fat grey haired old man who's too poor to own and Ipod and wears Converse All Stars in basic black. Their eyes get so big when I put plate after plate on the bench.

Oh yes,I guess it`s the same everywhere.A kid comes and tries to lift 120lbs 10times but he`s done after two.The sad thing is that many of today`s kids go to the gym just to be able to beat someone up just like that or challenge that guy at the bar to a fight.

BM357_Sniper
03-08-2007, 11:41 AM
I lift 4 days a week and do cardio 6 days a week. I worked hard to get to 235 (I'm 5'10) but I hate it. I'm on my way back down to 195 and I'm stuck at 215. blah!

Me in Iraq after losing 50 lbs.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/lifeguardhall/skinnyhall.jpg

Me after working to get it back.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/lifeguardhall/885d.jpg

DKoor
03-08-2007, 11:54 AM
Nice work man http://www.acompletewasteofspace.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/gm_thumbsup.gif

LStarosta
03-08-2007, 12:02 PM
Can you give me some tips regarding techniques, supplements, or whatever?

I believe that I am impervious to gaining muscle mass.

Been working out 3-4 times a week lifting weights and I find very minimal gains (mostly due to better technique, I think, since I kinda plateaued).

I tried the "eat a lot, drink a lot of water, and lift weights one body part at a time till it gets numb" and my biceps are a joke meanwhile I've gained fat instead. My pecs and triceps are okay because I end up doing a lot of push ups, but they still aren't as big as I want them to be.

MEGILE
03-08-2007, 12:40 PM
Good work Sniper, killer traps man.

Starosta:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224

Everything you could possibly need to know is in that thread.
It's long.. but follow it to the letter and you'll start to bulk.
No one is more impervious to muscle than me, I am harder-gainer as they come... but this routine is pretty dam good.

Warrington_Wolf
03-08-2007, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by carguy_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Worf101:
I lift weights at the gym about every other day. I love it when the young roid heads get smoked by this semi fat grey haired old man who's too poor to own and Ipod and wears Converse All Stars in basic black. Their eyes get so big when I put plate after plate on the bench.

Oh yes,I guess it`s the same everywhere.A kid comes and tries to lift 120lbs 10times but he`s done after two.The sad thing is that many of today`s kids go to the gym just to be able to beat someone up just like that or challenge that guy at the bar to a fight. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've seen that too, I have gone onto some of the weight machines after a "sted head" has been on it and actually had to increase the amount of weights. I couldn't believe that they were straining like they had constipation for a year or two, and yet I could lift heavier weights for longer and do more reps.
I'm not even a particularly big or "beefed up" in any way, I just worked myself hard and didn't eat too much junk (even as a kid I didn't really like junk food).
I am not a "sted head" and I don't believe in taking such "supplements", I have heard of so many people who have took things and either has had heart trouble in later life, or just went for a burton without warning http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

carguy_
03-08-2007, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
I've seen that too, I have gone onto some of the weight machines after a "sted head" has been on it and actually had to increase the amount of weights. I couldn't believe that they were straining like they had constipation for a year or two, and yet I could lift heavier weights for longer and do more reps.

Ever thought he might have having just a warmup?Some of them train different on machines and different with actual free weights.
I know a guy who`s 2times bigger than me but lifts just as much as me,on a certain lift machine.Then I saw him taking free weights 2times heavier than this.




I'm not even a particularly big or "beefed up" in any way, I just worked myself hard and didn't eat too much junk (even as a kid I didn't really like junk food).

I don`t think I need to tell you this but you might just be a skinnie.I know skinnies lifting weights I`d never suspect them to.It`s the genetic thing.



I am not a "sted head" and I don't believe in taking such "supplements", I have heard of so many people who have took things and either has had heart trouble in later life, or just went for a burton without warning http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

Right,everyone should spend some time on reading on a chosen supplement ,especially its side effects.Don`t be sorry about a guy who takes a supplement without knowing how it boosts testosterone and side effects of this.
If you know how to use`em,it really works.

Tooz_69GIAP
03-08-2007, 02:59 PM
I've just started back weight training regularly. I was sick a couple of years ago and lost nearly 80 lbs of mass!! I used to be a fairly big guy, strong and healthy, and now I weigh around 190 lbs at 6ft 3in and look like a bean pole!.

It will take some time, but I'm determined to get fit again!

LStarosta
03-08-2007, 03:22 PM
Like how sick?

I'm guessing it wasn't the flu?

Hope you reach your goal of buffing up!

Tooz_69GIAP
03-11-2007, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
Like how sick?

I'm guessing it wasn't the flu?

Hope you reach your goal of buffing up!

How sick?? Erm....I got pancreatitis due to gall stones, was in hospital for 7 weeks, was feed through a tube up my nose for half that time, had surgery, and developed diabetes because of it. Man, was that fun!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Brain32
03-11-2007, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
Can you give me some tips regarding techniques, supplements, or whatever?

I believe that I am impervious to gaining muscle mass.

Been working out 3-4 times a week lifting weights and I find very minimal gains (mostly due to better technique, I think, since I kinda plateaued).

I tried the "eat a lot, drink a lot of water, and lift weights one body part at a time till it gets numb" and my biceps are a joke meanwhile I've gained fat instead. My pecs and triceps are okay because I end up doing a lot of push ups, but they still aren't as big as I want them to be.
If you want to get bigger work out with less reps, but with bigger weight. Lot's of reps are good for definition...

CUJO_1970
03-11-2007, 08:27 AM
Well, I used to be in good shape, but not any more. I'm 37 now, with a wife, two kids and a very demanding job schedule.

I really want to get back into it, I used to weight train and swim 3-4 times a week http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Tooz_69GIAP
03-11-2007, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Brain32:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
Can you give me some tips regarding techniques, supplements, or whatever?

I believe that I am impervious to gaining muscle mass.

Been working out 3-4 times a week lifting weights and I find very minimal gains (mostly due to better technique, I think, since I kinda plateaued).

I tried the "eat a lot, drink a lot of water, and lift weights one body part at a time till it gets numb" and my biceps are a joke meanwhile I've gained fat instead. My pecs and triceps are okay because I end up doing a lot of push ups, but they still aren't as big as I want them to be.
If you want to get bigger work out with less reps, but with bigger weight. Lot's of reps are good for definition... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heavy compound exercises using free weights, with tight technique in the 8-12 rep region, 1-2 warm up sets, with 3 work sets should get you on the right road. Once you get used to that, and know what range your body responds to, you can modify that regime.

Squats and Deadlifts should always be part of your workouts.

Other necessary exercises are:

Rows (seated rows, bent over rows, t-bar rows, upright rows, etc)

Shoulder Presses (military presses, dumbbell presses, etc)

Bench Press (flat bench - with CORRECT technique!!!!!- incline bench, dumbbell presses, together with flyes, etc)

But basically, squats, deads, rows, and presses should be the basis of any mass building program.

Other usefull exercises include chins/pulldowns, shrugs, hack squats, leg presses, dips/pushdowns/french presses, and of course curls.

However, if you are lifting heavy weights and are on a mass building program, training 3-4 times probably means you are overtraining, and that is why you have hit a plateau, as you are not allowing your body enough time to recuperate!

I'd suggest for a couple of months that you scale back your workout days to maybe just 2 a week, and structure them so that you are doing heavy compound exercises only (I would suggest maybe 6-7 major exercises per workout), one day you use maximum weight for your rep range, and then on the second workout of the week, you do the same exercises, but maybe use 70-80% of maximum for your rep range but using absolute strict form. Now, after a couple of weeks of this, you can then try increasing the wiehgt on your max lift day, and hopefully, if you've been resting enough, you will be able to up your weight by maybe 5%.

Basically, the key to mass building is rest.

As to nutrition, it is usually suggested to consume 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of lean muscle mass. That is not 1 gram per pound of TOTAL bodyweight, but only your lean muscle mass. And I highly reccomend drinking a lot of milk. Not everyone likes it, but I find it's a usefull and convenient source of protein. And I would drink anything from 2-3 litres of water a day, or more, IF you are on a full time workout program.

Supplements, etc, I'd steer clear of those entirely except for perhaps some kind of supplement for protecting your joints and possibly a good multivitamin, as vitamins are important for aiding in recuperation, and rebuilding muscle damage, etc. But I find it becomes too easy to rely on the supplements to do the magic for you, and you end up spending more and more on useless crud, where as if you get your mass just through hard work and sweat, your gains will last a lot longer, and you will feel a lot better about it.

Just my opinion.

But I'd suggest checking out some of the muscle magazines like Flex and Musclemag, but ignore the workout articles and supplement articles, and go read the nutrition articles, as these will give the best information to give your body the best resources to effectively build what you're looking for!

LStarosta
03-11-2007, 01:23 PM
Yeah I have 2 days (sometimes 3) days a week of mandatory PT which kind of also gets in the way of muscle recuperation. It's hard to fit in good quality weight lifting and rest days with that kind of schedule. Anyway I'm thinking about maybe using the morning PTs as a warm up and lifting the same day which would leave plenty of rest time. Is this a good idea?

Also, squats are out of the question for me because I f*cked up my knee and it hurts to bare any significant weight on it when it is in the bent position. Is there any type of excercise I could use in place of squats?

Thanks, I really appreciate the tips!

MEGILE
03-11-2007, 01:37 PM
Is the knee damage permanent? Because I really can't think of a substitute for a heavy ATG squat.

Tooz_69GIAP
03-12-2007, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
Yeah I have 2 days (sometimes 3) days a week of mandatory PT which kind of also gets in the way of muscle recuperation. It's hard to fit in good quality weight lifting and rest days with that kind of schedule. Anyway I'm thinking about maybe using the morning PTs as a warm up and lifting the same day which would leave plenty of rest time. Is this a good idea?

Also, squats are out of the question for me because I f*cked up my knee and it hurts to bare any significant weight on it when it is in the bent position. Is there any type of excercise I could use in place of squats?

Thanks, I really appreciate the tips!

Well, that is a problem with the knee. What is the damage?

But although I agree with Megile in that there is no real alternatives to squat, however for a bad knee I would probably substitute leg presses. I find those to allow you to focus on the legs only, and so you can control your reps a lot better. But you should still do deadlifts as well. Deads still require a heavy load on your knees, but nowhere near as much as squats, and there are a good number of ways to vary the exercise to make it more comfortable. But maybe you should try doing high rep-low weight squats rather than heavy squats?

I damaged my knee a few years ago in a traffic accident, and it aches something rotten when it's cold, but I re-habbed it by cycling which puts a low load on the joint but improved it's strength and mobility greatly. I'd say you shouldn't be afraid of working your knee, just be careful with what you do with it until it works okay.

BuzzU
03-12-2007, 08:52 PM
I didn't know we could show pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/Jamnut/jam.jpg

repoman11
03-12-2007, 09:34 PM
I get to the gym about two to three times a week. I used to be a cycling fanatic, and I'm planning on getting back to riding at least three or four days a week.

Me, back in the day. I was going about 55 MPH when that shot was taken.
http://www.shocking.com/~z29/55+.jpg

I was actually planning on working on getting my road bike back together tonight. I had it apart to have it painted, and that project has taken far too long.

Only getting to the gym a couple of times a week means I don't make much progress. I can only bench about 180. But it helps keep the old away.

han freak solo
03-12-2007, 09:45 PM
I vote Fneb.

I used to lift weights. I used to run for soccer, but I hate running. Quit soccer at age 32 after torn ligaments in both ankles. Used to ride dirt bikes in the woods and on motocross tracks up to age 34. I got hurt more playin' soccer, but both are loves of mine.

At my current age of 42, I play disc golf while curling 12 ounces. So strenuous. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I still ride bicycles for some light cardio, because I still hate running. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I did buy an axe this past Friday to chop down a tree on Saturday. That was the closest thing to a workout I've done in quite some time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

MEGILE
03-13-2007, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by BuzzU:
I'm a Greek God.

ehehe

I thought you were merely retorting.

Tater-SW-
03-13-2007, 08:35 AM
Hiking/climbing is it for me, can't stand being inside.

Billy the kid, do you still live in NM, or is that southern colorado in a few pics? I live right up against the side of a decent mountain and 38,000 acres of national forest in Albuquerque, I can hike out the back door.

BillyTheKid_22
03-13-2007, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Hiking/climbing is it for me, can't stand being inside.

Billy the kid, do you still live in NM, or is that southern colorado in a few pics? I live right up against the side of a decent mountain and 38,000 acres of national forest in Albuquerque, I can hike out the back door.



I born Hobbs, N.M!! Lots of Ranch and mountain, My Uncle, Aunt cousin lived in Lidreth,N.M. All time, Hiking/Climbing, Mountain Biking,I know National Forest in Albuquerque. LOTS OF FUN!! I am from Oklahoma. SOON, Vacation New Mexico http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif and http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif



http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sleepingancestors/Hobbs_Windmill2.JPG

DKoor
03-13-2007, 12:45 PM
Just got back from the gym...
I work my arse out...
Aerobic/anaerobic all together. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Chest exercises today.

He he some cute chick asked me to adjust her machine and my buddy "kicked in" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif to explain that properly to her.

He he always some "spice" in every training day...

MEGILE
03-13-2007, 12:57 PM
You should have told him to go play with the stepmaster

DKoor
03-13-2007, 03:41 PM
It may happen next time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Lotta birds in that place http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The only reason why I didn't told him something like that is because I already have chick... and he doesn't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

slappedsilly
03-13-2007, 03:59 PM
I kept spilling my beer on the treadmill. Management didn't like it, I didn't like it, so I had to quit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MEGILE
03-13-2007, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by slappedsilly:
so I had to quit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

the beer or the tredmill?

DKoor
03-13-2007, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slappedsilly:
so I had to quit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

the beer or the tredmill? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

BillyTheKid_22
03-13-2007, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by slappedsilly:
I kept spilling my beer on the treadmill. Management didn't like it, I didn't like it, so I had to quit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/treadmillbike.jpg



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codeseven7
03-13-2007, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
Here's a little warning, <span class="ev_code_RED">protect your feet</span>.

I normally work out regularly, weight lifting, hiking and stationary bike riding. Thanks to playing too much softball, I have developed a severe case of plantar fasciitis.

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic429.htm

Now, walking from one room to the next is an adventure in pain. I have gained 10 pounds in the last 6 months too. I can still do some weightlifting but, any CV is difficult.

So, I guess the moral is, watch for any kind of over-exercise.


I just stopped by after being gone for awhile to see whats new with PF. GEEZ! an exercize thread?! Has PF really gotten that boring? Yikes!

Anyhoo, Faustnik, I had Plantar Fascitits, it sucks big time! It took nearly 18months to go away! Nothing helped until I stopped in one of those 'Good Feet Stores' for some Orthotics off the shelf. The relief was emmediate! I found out my shoes were **** and the lazy way I dont lace them firmly just made them worse, and no more flip flops either! It took another 2-3 months of 'always' having those inserts in my shoes to finally be cured http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Seriously, get some inserts to support your arch (not the **** you buy at the local drug store either). They cost me nearly $250 a pair and actually hurt by the end of the day (your arch is getting stretched back to normal) but as you know after months and months of what seems like 'incurable' pain it was money well spent. I still where them cause' I'm paranoid about that curse coming back.

Heres a link, do youself a favor and check into it. I'm glad I did.

http://www.goodfeet.com/


codeseven

Warrington_Wolf
03-13-2007, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:
It may happen next time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Lotta birds in that place http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The only reason why I didn't told him something like that is because I already have chick... and he doesn't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Yeah there was quite a lot of birds in my old gym too, unfortunately they were all going with the sted heads. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
In fact, meeting women was one of the reasons (not the main reason) why I joined a gym. On the plus side when I saw some of my old female classmates they said that I looked great, which was nice. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bo_Nidle
03-13-2007, 05:20 PM
"Gime? What the hell is a Gime?!"
Homer Simpson.

VMF-214_HaVoK
03-13-2007, 05:57 PM
My new supp just came today from my favorite supp company (Controlled Labs). Im running their White Flood and Green MAGnitude stacked together...great combo. Excellent vein popping pumps! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I always stick with these type of products and they have faired me well, Im not into prohormones and designer juice.

Controlled Labs (http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_by_35.htm)

LStarosta
03-13-2007, 07:18 PM
As a runner, I can only confirm the fact that you need proper footwear. Orthotics, even generic ones, will help you TREMENDOUSLY as long as you get the right kind.

If you're like me and you have flat feet, you're f*cked. Do the wet feet on towel test.

http://www.thetristore.com/css/feet.gif

If you have flat feet, you need to get "motion control" shoes. Best way to do this is to go to a running store and have someone examine your gait, usually on video tape. The only downside to motion control shoes is that they tend to be quite a bit heavier than normal running shoes. But staying injury-free is more important. As you become more experienced, you can step down a bit and try lighter and less supportive shoes, sometimes with an orthotic (I'll go into that further in the next paragraph) in place of the heavy cushioning. If you aren't sure about this, don't do it.

If motion control shoes aren't enough, you might want to get orthotics. At first they will be excruciatingly painful to wear and run in, but after a week or two you will not want to run without them. What they do is control the way the inside of your foot rolls inward and collapses as you step. This is called pronation.

If your foot pronates too much, many things can happen:

Your metatarsal bones (the foot bones on the "palm" of your foot) receive incredible amounts of stress, in most cases, over 6 times your body weight when you run. This will lead to stress fractures (microscopic fractures in the bone) which are incredibly painful if they develop, and in the worst case, you can actually break your foot. I've had stress fractures in my metatarsals, and believe me, it SUCKS. It takes MONTHS to recover if they get real bad. For the same reason, you will be susceptible to plantar fascitis as the muscles in your arch inflame from overuse as they try to support a strongly collapsing arch as it rolls inward too far. I've had this too, and it sucks BIG time. As previously stated, a pair of $25 orthotics will do the trick.

More commonly, however, you will get some form of stress in your lower leg, the worst of which can be knee damage in the form of cartilage wear or iliotibial band inflammation.

More prevalent are "shin splints" which are micro-tears in the muscles on the inside of your shins when these untrained muscles are tasked with stabilizing an over-collapsing arch. You may have had this if you've ever felt sharp and numbing pain on the inside of your shins which climaxes after you finish your run. This is a n00b injury that occurs to n00bs when they either first start running, or when tacking on too much mileage too quickly. I've had it really bad when I first started running, and I still get a minor case of them when I race in spikes on a hard track.

There are several ways to be proactive about this, as trying to fix shin splints when you already have them is damn near impossible because you have to let them heal before you can stress them again. First of which is placing a towel on the floor and try grabbing and bunching up the towel with your toes. This is the least stressful method on your shins.

Another method is using a Tibia machine in your local gym. If you don't have one, no big deal. Sit down in front of and stick your feet under a couch or some other similar furniture and then lift the furniture using your heel as a fulcrum.
Attempt 10x10 repetitions 3 times a day or as needed. A word of caution, when lifting furniture this way, wear some type of footwear that will protect the upper part of your foot from chafing, because you don't want raw skin on your feet making you change your gait when you run. Tiny changes in your gait caused by raw and/or blistered feet can result in more severe injuries such as IT band or hip flexor inflammation in the hip if you keep running on it.

Apart from proper footwear, try running on softer surfaces such as the dirt and gravel on the shoulder of a road and avoid concrete like the plague as it's up to 5 times harder than asphalt.

And last of all, if it hurts, STOP DOING IT! This is something that is ESSENTIAL to not only running but a lot of sports, and I wish they took this into consideration during PT.

That's all I can think of right now.

DKoor
03-13-2007, 07:45 PM
Hey LStarosta whatever you said, I can confirm...
I like running too, and I spent a lot of time on running tracks in the gym but also outside.
I had several injuries none of which were very bad, but one in particular $crewed me up for a long time. Achilles tendon... it hurt like hell... more so because I didn't took time to recuperate properly.
Groin injuries also hurt badly, had a lot of those but fortunately they don't last too long on my body http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Warrington_Wolf
03-14-2007, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:
"Gime? What the hell is a Gime?!"
Homer Simpson.
"They all have six packs, I'm the only one with a keg" Homer Simpson again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

BillyTheKid_22
03-14-2007, 02:47 PM
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I am laugh !! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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slappedsilly
03-14-2007, 03:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by slappedsilly:
so I had to quit. Smile



the beer or the tredmill?

The tredmill! I can play il2 and drink beer!

muchaclopiec
03-14-2007, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
What a coincidence, I cancelled my gym membership this evening because I finally had enough with the place. I got fed of the waiting to use equipment (my record is 20 minutes for a treadmill, then I gave up and buggered off home). Then when you were on equipment the "sted-heads" would keep bugging people (including me) constantly asking "how many more sets?" or "how long have you got left to run"? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. What really pissed me off that there was not enough equipment to go around and yet the staff were STILL showing people around and signing them up.
I wouldn't mind the wait if the equipment was in decent shape but it wasn't, it was often not working as it should or not working at all.
Just before Christmas 9 out of 12 treadmills were out of action and they didn't get fixed until mid January and even then 4 of them had restrictions, you couldn't go faster than 4 mph because in their words it "has a tendency to stop suddenly" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif.
The music that they played was also a major headache (I literally had a headache when I left), because all they would play was all this techno trance bollocks at maximum volume. I even took my iPOD with me and tried to listen to Metallica or Iron Maiden (perfect for running) and I couldn't hear it because the music was that loud.
I tried to complain but the management is non existent and the "trainers" (I use that term very loosely) couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif.
I have now decided to take up Karate again, it is 8 years since I last did it so there is a lot of rust that I will need to shake off. I cannot wait to start doing it again and I have really missed it since my last club went bust.

P.S. The so called gym that I went to was owned by JJB, I am naming and shaming them because I don't want others to waste their money on this poor quality excuse for a gym.

P.P.S. if anyone asks "wasn't there anything good about it?", there was one, the bird on the desk was gorgeous but that was about it.

You should try the Fitness First in Great Sankey, very good gym, and have you seen the one in the old aircraft hangar at Speke airport?..brilliant use for an old industrial building.

BillyTheKid_22
03-14-2007, 08:51 PM
http://www.westernspirit.com/trips/mtb-crested_butte_singletrack/imgs/crested_butte_tall.jpg



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Colorado Mountain!!!