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jack2120
03-12-2005, 06:08 PM
Yo, im a long time lomac player, just wondering if this is worth the buy, looks alright on video but how is the game play?

NorrisMcWhirter
03-12-2005, 06:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>how is the game play <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Depends where you are from.

Norris

Nubarus
03-12-2005, 06:26 PM
Gameplay is great if you like WWII planes, no radar, no aiming computer or no AA missiles. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Seriously, it is well worth it and by far the best WWII flightsim ever, gameplay and graphics wise.

FoolTrottel
03-12-2005, 06:40 PM
If you play it right, it's lot's of fun!

han freak solo
03-12-2005, 08:11 PM
What game? IL2 or it's offspring are all worth much more than $5.00. Buy it. Play it.

Have a blast, blasting stuff.

I've been hooked to this flight sim for at least two years. It's endless!!! Endless I say!!! ENDLESS!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Beaufort-RAF
03-12-2005, 08:33 PM
Try the IL2 demo (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/download/demo.php) if your not sure.

Bearcat99
03-12-2005, 08:43 PM
Get the Forgotten Battles Gold it comes with FB and the Aces pack. It is more than worth it. Alsao get Pacific Fighters.... If you like simming and WW2 combat you will love it. If you are an over anal, obsessive perfectionist no sim will meet your standards.... but you will fly this one and bitc# and moan about it all three way..... everytime you boot it up and between. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

3.JG51_BigBear
03-12-2005, 08:47 PM
LOMAC is the better simulator, Il2 is the better game. When comparing the two, LOMAC has better graphics, a more realistic feeling of flight and far more complex systems. LOMAC also looks more uniform because its been developed and added to in house. The Il2 series is a hodge podge of addons and additions. The original engine has been expanded in ways it was never meant to and external model and cockpit design differ greatly from plane to plane because of the different times the aircraft were added and the different people that created them.

The Il2 series is more fun, in my opinion, because the learning curve is not as steep as LOMAC. Like many WW2 sims the planes end up having the same basic key functions and without complex radar and weapons systems to learn its easy to hop from one plane to another.

The included campaigns are horrible but a great community has grown up around the sim and the third party missions and campaigns are very fun. Online play is also a blast. Many of the better servers offer historical scenarios and plane match ups and with so many planes flyable in game there's plenty of variety. Playing online is almost a must in this game because the AI is really starting to show its age as opposed to the LOMAC AI which can be very challenging when starting out.

I've played Il2 since it hit shelves and I am a huge fan of the game but I do have one big criticism. There are a whole bunch of planes that I would put in a category of "mush" planes. They have no real distinct characteristics and even if their flight models have been tweaked and refined there still doesn't seem to be anything tangible to them. There are some real outstanding aircraft that give the impression of flight and of a heavily armed and armored fighter aircraft with unique characteristics and abilities, but there are just as many or more AC that feel the same with increases in performance here or there but have no real outstanding features and have no characteristics to make them unique.

NorrisMcWhirter
03-13-2005, 03:52 AM
http://www.welcker.de/images3/Bidet.jpg

Norris

Capt.LoneRanger
03-13-2005, 04:02 AM
In any flight school of the world's AirForces, Civil Pilot Schools, etc, you always have to fly a prop-plane before jumping into a jet. It still makes me wonder how many people in the LOMAC-world think prop-planes are boring.
The fact is, you can easily see who playes prop sims, too, and who only plays modern flight sims: The last time I flew LOMAC online, I got 5 planes in a single sortie, because everybody looked at their radars and I shot them down with guns, without ever activating radar in my F15. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

carguy_
03-13-2005, 04:08 AM
Best WWII combat flight sim.That doesn`t necessary mean it is flawwless.

Capt.LoneRanger
03-13-2005, 04:38 AM
Hey, he's a LOMAC-flyer - he know's what "not flawless" means. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif