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Breeze147
02-23-2006, 06:17 AM
I need tips on how to fight in a bomber, specifically, how to jump to different stations and maintain control of the plane.

I know you can control the plane from different stations. I always go totally out of control.

I have read the tutorials and downloaded practice missions for the B-25. I'm still a WIP in that arena.

I like flying the stock FB B-25 campaign, but have only finished 2 missions so far. Any way, other than time compression, to shorten those missions.

Thanx!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

p-11.cAce
02-23-2006, 06:50 AM
I'm almost a bomber only pilot and this how I fly 'em
1. Stay out of the turrets and worry about the pilot and bombing stations. If you just have to hop into a gun station (even though the AI are prob way better shots than you are) keep in mind that the autopilot will manuver the aircraft to get back onto the pre-planned flight path so if you are off waypoint or waypoint altitude and speed the autopilot is going to try to get you back on track - rarely what you want to have happen.
2. Learn to use the various bombsights and the alternate bombing methods. The 9000'+200mph=40degree release point method is imho the best in the B-25 and much easier to set up than using the charts - though it leaves you a bit more exposed than being up high.
3. Online be creative about your run in direction and set up that run early. Get on altitude and lock it in with the level stabilizer then get your speed settled in and get on the sight; the last thing you want to be doing is dancing around the sky trying to get everything dialed in at the last moment.
4. In step with number 3 remember that any violent manuvers will toss the sight gyros which can take some time to settle and get your crosshairs back up. I like to have my speed and altitude locked and stable as the target drops into the sight view when it is still at 75deg or so elevation. That way all I have to worry about on the run is minor rudder trim corrections to keep the target sliding straight down the sight line.
5. Contrary to some other threads get used to getting killed - you are in a fat, slow, high value target that, unlike RL, is not often going to have escorting fighters or a large formation of other bombers for protection. Have patience - take time to climb to altitude in safe map areas so you can focus on the bomb run. Try not to scream too loud when you spend 15 minutes climbing to altitude and setting up the perfect run only to have the map change when you hit the release http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif
Most of all just have fun and don't expect the same type of action you get in a fighter - bombing is more like chess.

Breeze147
02-23-2006, 08:22 AM
Thank you, sir!

Pig_Mac
02-23-2006, 09:08 AM
Toggle level autopilot, or something as stupidly named, is the 'autopilot on/off when leaving pilot seat'. You just need to use it once, then it remembers the setting. I prefer manually using the rear and top turrets on the B25 when playing online, since the AI gunners seem to forget all their AI sniperskills when they man my guns vs human opponents.

Take time to circle around semi-friendly territory to get some altitude. Stay high and come in from unexpected directions. Since the B25 don't have that many bombs, I normally use the auto-bombsight.

Be sure to have normal cockpit, bomber position and rear gunner mapped to keys you know where they are. jumping with the 'next position' key is just frustrating when there is any action close to you.

Ps. Never expect to get an escort on DF servers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (A fighter can make 3 runs or more to 'action area' in the time it'll take you to get to the desired alt.)

Ps2. Always expect to get jumped just the moment you look at the bombsight settings for 3 seconds http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

icrash
02-23-2006, 09:22 AM
I can't level bomb worth a darn so I usually do one of two things. I get some altitude then make a long slow run into the target then go to full speed when in close. The other alternate is stay low then go to full power when in close to target. The general idea is a low relatively fast hit & run. Only problem with this is enemy fighters can do a real fast B&Z, but only if they remember to look down. I like the B-25's defensive fire power but the A-20 is faster.

p1ngu666
02-23-2006, 09:32 AM
oh pants, i just lost a long reply http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

fly on arcade servers, cos ull get lots of trade, setup the position keys (pilot, bomb aimer, top, rear turrets, front gunner, then if u want side (but there mostly useless)

use zoom view when aiming. try to have the plane trimmmed, then u wont haveto worry so much, plus mild movement will throw off the guys aim. u can dodge too if required.

the b25 is the best for gunnery, and try 750 convergance for the machine guns, for use in headon's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

just fire alot and practise, u can fire at about .6 away if u want too

p1ngu666
02-23-2006, 09:41 AM
i made these two video's to guide people through howto level bomb. the first one is keys you need to setup, the second one is a practise mission, going through howto use the bombsite. also includes practise mission for you to run yourself. both include the xvid codec which u might need.

ill hopefully do some more, addressing issues people have (stuff ive missed) and also other aspects of flying and operating a bomber.

sugestions welcome

http://files.filefront.com/bomblearnpart1rar/;4427587;;/fileinfo.html
http://files.filefront.com/bomblearnpart2rar/;4427714;;/fileinfo.html

p-11.cAce
02-23-2006, 11:00 AM
http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/b25_bg.htm This is the only way I level bomb now in the B-25. I like it because it is easy to set up and remember - the only variable is the bombsight angle when yu release and it is VERY accurate. For my standard 9000 foot drop I just lock in to 9000 with the level stabilizer, set 80% power, set the sight airspeed to 200, altitude to 9000, and when the target hits the crosshairs with 40 deg of sight angle punch the release. The advantage of manual bombing is that you can decide to either salvo everything at once or to just drop a pair here then drop the others someplace else.