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BaldieJr
09-19-2005, 02:20 PM
Stalls and spins are a great way to put the stop on super-g moves. Some of the things we do in the sim are so ahistorical it makes me want to toss out my flight helmet and use a normal "joystick".

Chuck_Older
09-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Stand in the middle of the room.

Put your arms out

Close your eyes

Spin around in place as fast as you can for one minute

Now run around the house at top speed.

there's all the spins and stalls you could ever dream of

BaldieJr
09-19-2005, 02:37 PM
Ok. I'm at work right now, but i'll try it anyway... Thanks!

Ankanor
09-19-2005, 02:39 PM
May I reccommend a very suitable song - Kylie Minogue - Spinning Around http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Enforcer572005
09-19-2005, 05:47 PM
try combat in an I-16 at low alt....you'll get your fill of those things, as well as engine stops. Its fun restarting those things with 109s chasing you at 200m.

MEGILE
09-19-2005, 05:54 PM
Remember to check no digital fly-by-wire in the difficulty settings.

WTE_Ibis
09-20-2005, 03:22 AM
Try a stronger beer.



Works for me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



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F19_Ob
09-20-2005, 04:58 AM
Try an early mig-3 and fly fast and pull the stick and U might feel better.

I tried first time online yesterday since ages.
Not only was I unable to detect that my speed was too high, I also rammed my foe and took a friendly with me in the following explo. apologizing followed as usual

If u want stalling without much happening when pulling stick, there ya go m8. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
I also recommend flying tired that way u get even more stalling and spinning.

Works for me.

LeadSpitter_
09-20-2005, 05:27 AM
I couldnt agreemore, maybe 1000-2000m recovery of stalls and total loss of E.

And all ac stall when stick yanking and rollerblading trim wheels. So lame after all these patchs they go back to the yoyo kid trim in 4.02 like the original il2 sturmovik.

WOLFMondo
09-20-2005, 05:48 AM
Baldie, take this into account why allot of people do not stall out, allot of people have been flying this game for years and have probably 20 flight hours in there least favorite aircraft they hardly fly at all and possibly 1000's of hours in there favorite rides which is allot more than even some of the top WW2 aces accumulated, we also take much bigger risks which means we learn the limits and can hold those limits to the extreme.

The virtual pilot is also not affected by G forces, yes our vision goes black but none of the associated problems affect the virtual pilot which means we can go from 1 extreme positive or negative G manouver to the next with impunity.

I still see guys online stalling and spinning all the time though.

TX-EcoDragon
09-20-2005, 12:17 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/BrettVisionSLR/DSC_0123.jpg



More? Add em to the top!

NorrisMcWhirter
09-20-2005, 12:32 PM
Ya, what did happen to stalls and spins?

How often was it that someone new came to the forum and asked how to get out of one only to have a half hearted, 'chop throttle, stick forward, opposite rudder' posted?

I tried really hard in QMB to get into a spin and I could still do it in a P39...but it recovered after half a picosecond.

That never used to happen.

So, were they too common before or has it been dumbed down?

Ta,
Norris

FlatSpinMan
09-20-2005, 07:29 PM
Not wanting to brag here but I got into an excellent "tumbling" spin in the Me 163 recently. Hadn't seen that before.Not just round and round but actually, end over end. Killed me and everything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I have also had a couple of wee stalls in the I-16 which I have just started flying in a campaign recently. It was pretty easy to recover though I agree, so perhaps they have been simplified. The engine cut-out factor does rather add to the excitement of the moment though. Certainly compared to the demo of Il-2 stalls are easier to get out of. That's where I got my name from - trying out a P-39 in the rain in a demo of Il-2, never having played a realistic type sim before. Just thinking about that now I think that set-up would still give me trouble.

badaboom.1
09-20-2005, 07:48 PM
Baldie I thought you were married?not enough stalls & spins for you? You must be still on your honeymoon! LUCKY DOG!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

TAGERT.
09-20-2005, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Stand in the middle of the room.

Put your arms out

Close your eyes

Spin around in place as fast as you can for one minute

Now run around the house at top speed.

there's all the spins and stalls you could ever dream of ROTFL

FritzGryphon
09-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Go back and play the Il2 demo. It's no easier now.

And don't confuse spin with snap roll. Split second snap roll not going to do anything. Spins in PF now take longer to recover than before 4.01.

BaldieJr
09-20-2005, 11:34 PM
Flight models will never be real so I say we should ping oleg untill he makes them harder.

Harder = more funner.
(you know my grammer makes you sweat)

If we don't tire out and we don't get airsick we might as well have to deal with a virtual hazard like insta-spins.

I wouldn't mind loosing ammo every time I blow off a ton of E for no real reason. How about fuel losses below "safe" altitudes? I should have been a game designer.