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WUAF_Badsight
04-02-2004, 04:39 PM
aww come on .....

it would be sooo cool , im not sure if it has ever been in a combat sim B4 has it ?

http://img7.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Badsight/Shinden.jpg

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http://server5.uploadit.org/files/clippa-Shindenfront_3.jpg

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/clippa-Shindenreargood.jpg

WUAF_Badsight
04-02-2004, 04:39 PM
aww come on .....

it would be sooo cool , im not sure if it has ever been in a combat sim B4 has it ?

http://img7.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Badsight/Shinden.jpg

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http://server5.uploadit.org/files/clippa-Shindenfront_3.jpg

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/clippa-Shindenreargood.jpg

WUAF_Badsight
04-02-2004, 08:48 PM
bump

Baltar
04-02-2004, 08:51 PM
Yeah, I mentioned that in another thread. I'd LOVE to see this puppy in action!

Penguin_PFF
04-02-2004, 09:09 PM
It's enough of a full plate to just get a good basic set of fighters done. I'm not Luthier but from what I know, it is very doubtful (understatement) that it'll be in there. Make of that what you will.

JG1_vonPletz
04-02-2004, 09:34 PM
S!
If I remember correctly, it was flyable in the 1946 addon to Aces of the Pacific.

Hptm. Karl "vP" von Pletz
Gruppen IIa Offizier
Chief of Operations
II./JG1 "Oesau"

Diesel_Kurt
04-02-2004, 10:33 PM
you can download a shinden for combat flight sim 2.
i think 1% aircraft had it or something. i forget where i got it....but there is a downloadable shinden,and its quite cool!!!

porcupine1
04-02-2004, 10:33 PM
I thought about it and even started playing with it. but after reasearch i learned that it only flew 45 minutes total. and it was supposed to have a turbo jet engine. turbo jet engine agrhhhhhh slurp drool, ok any way. I am not sure if luther would go for it. If he would i would think about it for real!

what we really need is a production list so we know whats being modelled. I would also restart the boomerang project but I heard the other day its being done, and then I heard it wasnt, but who knows?

WUAF_Badsight
04-03-2004, 12:14 AM
it had a 2130 Hp 18 cylinder Radial motor in the back

there was intentions to get it into production then bring out a jet version

maybe turbofan ?

but the top speed was estimated at 750 Kmh

the prototype did fly twice for a total of about 45 min

the only vice it showed was strong prop torque on takeoff

the prototype never had the guns fitted that the type was meant to be fitted with

FOUR (4) THIRTY Millimeter Cannon

(4 30mm cannon)

too cool

RxMan
04-03-2004, 10:34 AM
It was flyable in Fighter Duel Pro 2 for the Amiga... Kinda flew like a potato chip if I remember. You couldn't stall it so it wouldn't do drastic maneuvers that we all like so much.

JR_Greenhorn
04-03-2004, 10:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
there was intentions to get it into production then bring out a jet version

maybe turbofan ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, it would have recieved the Japanese-built axial-flow turbojets that were based on technology from Germany in their technology exchange program (I can't remember the correct name for it). Obviously the jet-powered J7W2 never got off paper.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
the only vice it showed was strong prop torque on takeoff<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Supposedly engine cooling was also a problem, especially when on the ground and takeoff, etc. If we ever got this plane modeled (I sure hope we do someday), hopefully they'll model-in those problems too.
I wonder if there is any flight data remaining for this aircraft?

WUAF_Badsight
04-03-2004, 01:35 PM
could Luthier be able to give a yay or nay to its ever coming to Pacific Battles ?

Korolov
04-03-2004, 02:08 PM
I think that this one should be left behind, until there is a need for new fantasy planes.

We need the ones that saw actual service throughout the war more than the "what-ifs" right now.

But if you get the Shinden, then Ami's get the Bearcat. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg

luthier1
04-03-2004, 02:14 PM
If somebody wants to build this abomination on their own I don't mind inserting it in the game. But I certainly have other priorities myself, there are tons of crucially important planes and especially ships that I'd do before I ever considered these "what ifs".

http://www.il2center.com/PF.jpg

WUAF_Badsight
04-03-2004, 05:19 PM
but , but , but , but ...............

WUAF_Badsight
04-03-2004, 05:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
I think that this one should be left behind, until there is a need for new fantasy planes.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

HEY !

the cheap seats down the back can quiet down eh !

Gibbage1
04-03-2004, 05:52 PM
Who knows. Im famous for making wonder planes, and I like the design. It would be well after any current projects though. But info on it is so very limited.

My post's are my asumptions only, and in no way linked to fact. I am not an official 1C, Ubi, or Russian Red Rocket spokesman.

WereSnowleopard
04-03-2004, 07:36 PM
Well, We may prefer mass of 1941-42 planes for now with few of 43/44 planes that saw in actions often. Then in late as in next patches if PF become very demanding games then we may have some rare planes.

RedDeth
04-03-2004, 07:52 PM
great another 109Z with 4 mk 108s to ruin dogfights authentic feel of WW2

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WUAF_Badsight
04-03-2004, 08:48 PM
oh plz you n00bies are as authentic as santa clause

whats authentic about cockpit off ?

been wasted by a 109 Z lately have we ?

go crap in your own threads

luthier1
04-03-2004, 09:09 PM
Everyone on these boards has the right to an opinion - you however do NOT have the right to answer in such tone. Please read the Rules of Conduct.

http://www.il2center.com/PF.jpg

F16_Petter
04-03-2004, 10:48 PM
Oh luthier, why not add this plane aswell??
It would really match those zeros, at least at distance.

http://imagebase.saab.se/ibsaab/file/saab/Grip/Gripen_P_G_2003_06/low/Gripen_P_G_2003_06.jpg

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Btw, Luthier...
Dont be to hard on badsight tho, Its a nice japanese plane and last time I checked, the BI-1 belongs in the list of planes that... uhhh.. didnt log many combat hours.
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

Please focus on the main idea of this product and DO NOT let it get out of hand as with IL2FB.

*praying*

Keep up the good work!

http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v127/F16_Petter/sig_petter.jpg

luthier1
04-03-2004, 10:54 PM
You actually just might get a little memento of the BI-1 in PF.

http://www.il2center.com/PF.jpg

RedDeth
04-03-2004, 11:35 PM
"oh plz you n00bies are as authentic as santa clause

whats authentic about cockpit off ?

been wasted by a 109 Z lately have we ?

go crap in your own threads" badsight i was hoping youd leave your meanness over at the other forums. i guess i was wrong. sad.

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WUAF_Badsight
04-03-2004, 11:39 PM
oh give it a rest RedDeth

Neww_Guy
04-04-2004, 04:53 PM
hehe

P-DEX
04-05-2004, 09:07 AM
Well, I agree with Luthier's plan of action.

While I think it would be cool to fly these "what-if" aircraft, the main product should stick with the "actuals" that flew in the war. Later on, if the demand is there and Luthier and Co. make some cash off the game, then I'm all for seeing some of these "what-if's" in subsequent patches.

JR_Greenhorn
04-05-2004, 10:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by luthier1:
You actually just might get a little memento of the BI-1 in PF.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm, I wonder what that means, Ohka perhaps?

I like the BI-1 very much, and I'm glad it made it into Il-2.

Aztek_Eagle
04-05-2004, 10:25 AM
if u guys dont like unhistorical dogfigt maps, go fly on greatergreen as soon it comes out, or r u too scare of almost to real, what if planes doesnt bother dogfight rooms, as they can always be banned by the host any ways

EmbarkChief
04-05-2004, 10:29 AM
Define Irony:

WUAF_Badsight: Registered April 11, 2003

calling

RedDeth: Registered December 08, 2001

a NOOB. LOL

zoomar2
04-05-2004, 11:44 AM
As much as I'd like to see the Shinden (either flyable or AI), it's more important to me that we get (in addition to what's already modeled and promised) planes such as the Japanese A5M, floatplane A6M, N1K1-2 Shiden, K-43, K-44, Ki-61, Ohka, and B5N Kate; USN Corsair, Devastator, Dauntless, or Avenger; USAAF P-36, B-24 and B-39; Australian Ca12 Boomerang; British Beaufighter, Mosquito, and Swordfish; and Dutch Fokker DXXI. A lot, I know, and I'll be happy with a lot less.

Also, here's hoping for a wide variety of ship models, including a couple each of US and Japanese carrier classes, as well as appropriate CAs, CL.s and DDs

Oh yes, and an A-bomb for that B-29 I mentioned.

Once that's done, an add-on with the Shinden, J8M1, P-82, Tigercat, and Bearcat would be great.

TAGERT.
04-05-2004, 12:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
im not sure if it has ever been in a combat sim B4 has it ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Aces of the Pacific (AOTP) did include it in the AOTP 1946 addon.. Along with P80, F7F, Bearcat, The JAP version of the Me262 the Kikka
http://www.ijnafpics.com/B&W/kikka04.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/JB&W/Kikka-2s.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/JB&W2/Kikka-13.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/JB&W/Kikka-4.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/B&W/kikka_11.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/JB&W/Kikka-7.jpg

Was alot of fun! I made a few mods for it that included a P51H and F4C with 20mm cannons.. All good times.. hard to belive it was 10+ years ago

http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/kickme.jpg
TAGERT

WUAF_Badsight
04-06-2004, 02:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EmbarkChief:
Define Irony:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

oh plzzzzz

its to do with the way they post & the way they play

nothing to do with their time in the game or the forum at all

anyways there is a little controversy regarding Lutheirs comments

is it this he means ?

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/clippa-ohka.jpg

or the Japanese Komet replica ?

the J8M1 Shusui

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/clippa-J8M1_Shusui.jpg