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cawimmer430
02-08-2008, 06:51 AM
Found this interesting aircraft concept in the Deutsches Museum in Munich. You're looking at the Junkers J-1000. In 1924 Junkers was looking at an enormous passenger aircraft with a design that promised a low air resistance coefficient. A Canard design was therefore chosen.

According to calculations, the plane would weigh an estimated 36 tons, have a top speed of 190 km/h and have a wingspan of 80 meters. The wings were to be 2.3 meters high at the wingroots and beyond and were to offer space for passengers, luggage, engines and fuel. The project was probably too advanced for its time and the powerful engines needed to move such a gigantic aircraft were not yet available. Due to this and the economic crisis in Post-World War I Germany (which would have prevented a successful market for this airplane), the project was never realized.

If you ask me, this baby looks pretty "futuristic" for a 1924 design! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I suppose this aircraft later inspired the G.38.

Junkers J-1000 in 1:100
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2330/junkersju1000pic01jd2.jpg

A 1:100 model showing the size of people if they were standing in the vicinity of the aircraft.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5093/junkersju1000pic02ke4.jpg

A drawing of how the rooms in the wing roots would look like. I'll take the room with the windows thank you! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5286/junkersju1000pic03jr5.jpg

Friendly_flyer
02-08-2008, 07:37 AM
Now that is something I wouldn't mind seeing in a sim!

Rood-Zwart
02-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Now that is something I wouldn't mind seeing in a sim!

or in real life for that matter

Metatron_123
02-08-2008, 08:08 AM
I'd love to shoot that down... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

But seriously, cool design.

cawimmer430
02-08-2008, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Metatron_123:
I'd love to shoot that down... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

But seriously, cool design.

What about the innocent passengers on board? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Choctaw111
02-08-2008, 08:42 AM
It almost looks like it could land on water as well. Could it have done that?

stalkervision
02-08-2008, 10:42 AM
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/improvingflight/bwb-aedc.html

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/181484main_bwb-aedc3-330.jpg

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http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/181483main_bwb-aedc2-330.jpg

Aaron_GT
02-08-2008, 11:03 AM
I've read that flying wing designs may appear in some future passenger aircraft as the design is low drag. The concern is that passengers distributed far from the centre will experience unsettling (and lunch removing) G forces, though, plus most won't have windows. There are also concerns about safety - i.e. evacuation, and what happens to the wings in a crash landing.

There are apparently serious suggestions for moving back to prop planes for shorter haul flights - at lower altitudes there is less gain from using jets, and you can run (as Junkers proved in the Ju-86) props easily via diesel at low altitudes, and thus use biofuels, whereas biofuel blends for jet engines at high altitudes are problematic.

Aaron_GT
02-08-2008, 11:04 AM
It almost looks like it could land on water as well. Could it have done that?

They do look like boat hulls, and flying boat was the luxurious yet exciting way to travel at the time...

major_setback
02-09-2008, 04:35 AM
There's a small video of the model here:

http://www.junkers.de/visionen/j1000/

santini812
02-09-2008, 05:37 AM
Judging from the nose/tail and the size of the aircraft, (although actual scale is kinda hard to determine), it looks like a floater. It would take a big airfield to get that pig off the ground. I agree with Metatron I'd love to flame it.

han freak solo
02-09-2008, 08:13 AM
Can you translate the info cards for us?

cawimmer430
02-10-2008, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
It almost looks like it could land on water as well. Could it have done that?

Probably not. AFAIK it was designed as a land plane. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

cawimmer430
02-10-2008, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Can you translate the info cards for us?

I did. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

First one shows a small scale model with the actual size of people if they stood next to it.

Second info card talks about how the room layout in the wings was designed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif