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macker33
11-07-2005, 05:51 AM
Why no ME110 in il2 or il2fb,its an important plane,is there something wrong with it?

nakamura_kenji
11-07-2005, 05:56 AM
there bf-110 in game also be fly also

cueceleches
11-07-2005, 06:07 AM
There is a Bf 110 (flyable), but IÔ┬┤m not sure if it came with AEP, or PF, or with one of the patches...

HotelBushranger
11-07-2005, 06:38 AM
What version do you have?

han freak solo
11-07-2005, 06:38 AM
I think it came with Aces Expansion Pack for IL2:Forgotten Battles.

I like the Bf-110, as long as I have good fighter cover. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

cawimmer430
11-07-2005, 06:49 AM
The BF-110 is one of my favorite planes of World War II. I think it's beautiful and badass at the same time. You'll have a hard time fighting enemy fighters in IL-2 with it due to is heavy feeling nature, but in the hands of a good pilot, the BF-110 can sting: especially since its weapons are pretty powerful and accurate over longer ranges. Definitely one of my favorite planes. I've shot down two La-7's and a Spitfire and various bombers with it, but extreme dogfighting is very difficult with that baby. Beautiful plane though. Check my sig! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

The BF-110 is included in the "Ace Expansion Pack". Too bad you can't fly the nightfighter versions with Lichtenstein radar! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Dunkelgrun
11-07-2005, 07:11 AM
We have the Bf110 G-2 flyable and the C-4 and C-/B as AI only. We definitely had it long before PF so you'll need FB+AEP (Ace Expansion Pack) plus any subsequent patches. See one of the stickies at the top to find out which.

Cheers!

msalama
11-07-2005, 11:59 AM
I think it's beautiful and badass at the same time.

Exatly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I saw a fully restored one in the Technicummuseum Berlin (sorry if teh grm3r is slecht) last summer - and let me tell you, that was truly an arresting moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What a great AC she is!

Pirschjaeger
11-07-2005, 02:47 PM
I was flying online one time and decided to relax and do some ground pounding with a 110. On route and over one of my bases I noticed two enemy fighters harassing a 109 that had just gotten off the ground. His gear was still down. The 3 planes were low and slow and turning as tight as possible. I decided to drop in and pay and little visit hoping to clear my teammate's 6 long enough for him to situate himself. The timing were perfect. I executed a sweet BnZ and within 5 seconds after I blasted the first I also made the second on history then went for the clouds again. I wish I had been recording that. Sweet, sweet, sweethttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

cawimmer430
11-08-2005, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think it's beautiful and badass at the same time.

Exatly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I saw a fully restored one in the Technicummuseum Berlin (sorry if teh grm3r is slecht) last summer - and let me tell you, that was truly an arresting moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What a great AC she is! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lucky you buddy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I've never seen a BF-110 in real life. I did see a Heinkel He-111 and that thing is huge in real life. Can't imagine what a B-17 or B-29 must be in size. But yeah, the BF-110...what a hotty! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cawimmer430
11-08-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
I was flying online one time and decided to relax and do some ground pounding with a 110. On route and over one of my bases I noticed two enemy fighters harassing a 109 that had just gotten off the ground. His gear was still down. The 3 planes were low and slow and turning as tight as possible. I decided to drop in and pay and little visit hoping to clear my teammate's 6 long enough for him to situate himself. The timing were perfect. I executed a sweet BnZ and within 5 seconds after I blasted the first I also made the second on history then went for the clouds again. I wish I had been recording that. Sweet, sweet, sweethttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

What a cool video that would have been Fritz! Did you take any screen shots? Sometimes I do that, especially with nice kills against hard opponents. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

msalama
11-08-2005, 12:02 PM
But yeah, the BF-110...what a hotty! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yep, she's a sizzling hottie allright http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Mmmm...

They also had a fully restored Bf109G-2, a fully restored Tante Junkers Ju-52 in a VERY cool 30's Lufthansa livery, a cockpit from an FW190A-9 (I think), a civilian Bf-108, a wrecked Lanc wing & a wrecked nose of a Sturmovik among other things... one of the best technical museums I've ever been in, actually, that place!

Strongly recommended http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

HunglikePony
11-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Most good is 110, very powerful in guns and good straight speed but not do the dogfight with him, is suicide!!
Good for base attacks but because silly map designers always set flack to 'veteran' '1.0' then 110 always lose engine easy on attack as AA gunners all snipers with eye of eagle. maps liek Warclouds good but always setup for air quake fighter v fighter type air battle.

marc_hawkins
11-08-2005, 06:21 PM
110 is a sweet ride indeed, One of the few aircraft i can land properly at my level of noobness. Ah, twin props my good friend....

major_setback
11-08-2005, 06:49 PM
The 110 has one of the best cockpits (and one of the best gunners positions) of all of the FB/PF aircraft:


http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/devupdate/0213/Bf-110G-2_cockpit8.jpg
http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/devupdate/0213/Bf-110G-2_cockpit14.jpg

You can find more info on the AEP additions Here :

http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development_040604.php

cawimmer430
11-09-2005, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But yeah, the BF-110...what a hotty! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yep, she's a sizzling hottie allright http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Mmmm...

They also had a fully restored Bf109G-2, a fully restored Tante Junkers Ju-52 in a VERY cool 30's Lufthansa livery, a cockpit from an FW190A-9 (I think), a civilian Bf-108, a wrecked Lanc wing & a wrecked nose of a Sturmovik among other things... one of the best technical museums I've ever been in, actually, that place!

Strongly recommended http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where exactly is this museum? If I ever visit the US, I plan on checking that out. Did you take any pics while there? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cawimmer430
11-09-2005, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
110 is a sweet ride indeed, One of the few aircraft i can land properly at my level of noobness. Ah, twin props my good friend....

Same here! I have trouble landing the BF-109s / Spitfire because of the narrow landing gear, especially on rough terrain. The BF-110 is easy to land and easy to fly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I find the BF-110 to be an exceptional bomber killer. With guns like that, I wouldn't want to be a fighter pilot in the sights of this bad boy. My favorite BF-110 skin is the "Nachtjaeger" (Nightfighter) one...what a badass. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

msalama
11-09-2005, 07:51 AM
Where exactly is this museum? If I ever visit the US, I plan on checking that out.

Erm... Das ist das _Deutsche_ Technikmuseum Berlin, im Berlin, hauptstadt der Bundesrepublik Deutschland! So no need to visit the U.S. at all I'd say http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Their web site is here (http://www.dtmb.de/) if you want to take a look.

(P.S. Sorry about my German there, meine frauen und herren! I don't really speak it even "ein bischen" anymore it seems...)


Did you take any pics while there? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Unfortunately, no. I didn't have a working camera of any sort at the moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But nevertheless please do check the museum out if you ever get the chance. It's well worth the visit!

LameDuck.
11-09-2005, 10:56 AM
I'm struggling with the 110, personally. I took a 110G2 against a Hurri IIb in QMB and got plastered. I even used the special point the rear gunner at him trick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif which wasn't hard to do and still got plastered.
So I swapped the Hurri for a Pe-2 and managed to bag him, but I was sure horsing that thing around to make it happen. Mostly in the vertical(!), however I'm sure if I had turned on Stalls&Spins I would have been sampling dirt.
I dunno. I'm working awfully hard on the throttle, flaps, and rudder, or trying to extend away to swing around and bring the guns to bear, but not having much luck here. I reckon I'd have more fun in a P.11. Is there something about the 110 I'm overlooking?

Friendly_flyer
11-09-2005, 11:06 AM
The trick is to hit the "c" key and switch to the gunner seat. That way you can give that pesky Hurricane a lesson yourself.

marc_hawkins
11-09-2005, 11:24 AM
Same here! I have trouble landing the BF-109s / Spitfire because of the narrow landing gear

Too right! I find myself hunting around for concrete runways at the mo with the narrow undercarriage types... but the 110 drops down like a dream anywhere!


I'm struggling with the 110, personally. I took a 110G2 against a Hurri IIb in QMB and got plastered.

Though it doesn't work miracles! remember the Battle of Britain anyone? Personally i try not to get involved in a dog fight with a single seater, you're gonna have a hard time of it. I remember somebody saying that you can outrun a hurri (which was a bob tactic i believe) Though that's not exactly why you set up a QMB i suppose!

JtD
11-09-2005, 12:05 PM
The Bf-110's dogfighting abilites are probably undermodelled by a large margin.

Compare it to other two engined ac you will find it has a better powerloading and wingloading yet it will outturned by almost anything. Turn should be in the region of the 109, poor roll was the big problem for the 110 in close dogfights.

Anyway, lovely bird. Badass and good looking at the same time. I prefer the early versions over the G model, though. Hope to see them in the BoB series.

danjama
11-09-2005, 01:31 PM
One of my fondest memories was back in my 334th days, with a friend called Phantom. He was very cool but i dont see him much now! Anyway, we were on the server, and we went up in a pair as normal BUT we were flying BF110's just for jokes. We went up to 3000m (practically the stratosphere on 334th) and we attempted to BnZ with no luck. We lost all our speed and began to **** it. We decided we would have to dogfight with our 110's, and sure as hell, we musta got at least 3 kills each before leaving the empty combat zone for base. Them 110's can dogfight for sure if you are an experienced flyer with anything heavy. They were very slow while you were burnin it around in turns, but it didnt really matter caus we had each others back. The 110 is a nice plane IMO. Even better for ground pounding, eg quick skip across the lines at low alt hiding against trees before popping off some AA and RTBing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Overall a very fun plane, and it always got me down safely. For example:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/danjama/veryverybaddayatwork.jpg

msalama
11-09-2005, 01:39 PM
A great sig, marc_hawkins, BTW http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

marc_hawkins
11-10-2005, 08:27 AM
Thanks msalama!

Yep, all in all a good ride! Good posts JtD and danjama, though personally i get all jittery when the single seats turn up...much prefer a line of ground targets or a juicy fat bomber http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Personally I let the 109 and 190's have the glory of the dogfights and i tend to live longer....

LStarosta
11-10-2005, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by LameDuck.:
I'm struggling with the 110, personally. I took a 110G2 against a Hurri IIb in QMB and got plastered. I even used the special point the rear gunner at him trick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif which wasn't hard to do and still got plastered.
So I swapped the Hurri for a Pe-2 and managed to bag him, but I was sure horsing that thing around to make it happen. Mostly in the vertical(!), however I'm sure if I had turned on Stalls&Spins I would have been sampling dirt.
I dunno. I'm working awfully hard on the throttle, flaps, and rudder, or trying to extend away to swing around and bring the guns to bear, but not having much luck here. I reckon I'd have more fun in a P.11. Is there something about the 110 I'm overlooking?

You're just not a good pilot yet, judging by your flying with Stalls and Spins off.

Practice, and you will be able to nail those Hurricanes. It's especially fun with the 2xMK108 loadout.

JtD
11-10-2005, 08:32 AM
Pfft, 2xMk 108 vs. Hurries...noobs choice. Real men and women take the real guns and still score - at least against Hurricanes and other inferior early planes.

Jaws2002
11-10-2005, 08:40 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Actually Bf-110 is a completely different plane without the big guns. With the default guns is quite a dogfighter. I never take the big ones unless I go against tanks. In that case i take the Bk3.7 alone. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

marc_hawkins
11-10-2005, 08:40 AM
But the Mk108's make such pretty flashes on fusilages....

LameDuck.
11-10-2005, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Jaws2002:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Actually Bf-110 is a completely different plane without the big guns......
Hhhmmm, I'll need to experiment with that. I have been using the MK108+151 loadout.

*edit* Yep, that's better. And eased up a bit on the stick, was able to down two IIb's. Thanks for the tip.

macker33
11-10-2005, 12:16 PM
Well i've got il2,il2fb and pacific fighters,is it worth my while getting the aces expansion just so i can fly the 110?

Which is better?the ju87 or the bf110.

JtD
11-10-2005, 12:43 PM
I figure this means you got IL-2FB and PF as seperate installs?

With AEP you can have all the planes in one game, which is really nice. Also, there were several patches for FB+AEP that give you quite a lot of additional aircraft.

I recommend to everyone the FB+AEP+PF combined installation.

You might need to wait for the FB Gold edition, though, as a copy of AEP is rare.

----

The 110 is a lot faster, but carries less bombs. In the Ju-87 you will always need fighter cover, in the Bf you have a good chance surviving on your own. With all the possible loadout options the 110 is as good as the Ju in ground pounding - except for trhe ability to carry that 1800kg bomb.

cawimmer430
11-10-2005, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Where exactly is this museum? If I ever visit the US, I plan on checking that out.

Erm... Das ist das _Deutsche_ Technikmuseum Berlin, im Berlin, hauptstadt der Bundesrepublik Deutschland! So no need to visit the U.S. at all I'd say http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Their web site is here (http://www.dtmb.de/) if you want to take a look.

(P.S. Sorry about my German there, meine frauen und herren! I don't really speak it even "ein bischen" anymore it seems...)


Did you take any pics while there? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Unfortunately, no. I didn't have a working camera of any sort at the moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But nevertheless please do check the museum out if you ever get the chance. It's well worth the visit! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well what do you know... Ich wohne in Deutschland (Bayern), aber ich war noch nie in Berlin. Eines Tages aber werde ich dieses Museum besuchen! Cross my heart! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

cawimmer430
11-10-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by LameDuck.:
I'm struggling with the 110, personally. I took a 110G2 against a Hurri IIb in QMB and got plastered. I even used the special point the rear gunner at him trick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif which wasn't hard to do and still got plastered.
So I swapped the Hurri for a Pe-2 and managed to bag him, but I was sure horsing that thing around to make it happen. Mostly in the vertical(!), however I'm sure if I had turned on Stalls&Spins I would have been sampling dirt.
I dunno. I'm working awfully hard on the throttle, flaps, and rudder, or trying to extend away to swing around and bring the guns to bear, but not having much luck here. I reckon I'd have more fun in a P.11. Is there something about the 110 I'm overlooking?

I generally use the BF-110 to kill enemy bombers. Dogfighting is difficult in IL-2 with the BF-110, I've only gotten 2 Russian and a British fighter with the BF-110. The Spitfire approached me dead on and I caused a direct hit with my guns. In another mission, I shot down two La-7's: one in a dive, the other La-7 I bagged when he was going after one of my guys. I have more success with the BF-110 against enemy bombers. The guns are powerful and fairly accurate over longer ranges, perfect for attacking B-17s for example. In fact, the BF-110 had quite a reputation as an excellent nightfighter against the USAF / RAF bombing missions over Germany.

I find that the BF-110 has generally enough power to outrun some enemy fighters, but the maneuvrability will be its achilles heel. Once enemy fighters approach, I usually request assistance from single-engined fighters. <---If they're around! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cawimmer430
11-10-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by macker33:
Well i've got il2,il2fb and pacific fighters,is it worth my while getting the aces expansion just so i can fly the 110?

Which is better?the ju87 or the bf110.

The BF-110 might be a great plane to "learn flying" on. I got Pacific Fighters before IL-2 and "learned to fly" using the Mitsubishi Zero fighter, a plane I hold in high regard because of its maneuvrability. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Regarding the Ju-87 vs BF-110, no comparison. The Ju-87 was a dive bomber. It was slow (bent wings, fixed landing gear, relatively weak engine and overall design) and not as maneuvrable obviously. The BF-110 was originally intended to be a long range fighter. It's fast, powerful, but suffers from a slow roll rate and lousy maneuvrability when compared with most single-engined fighters. You'll have more chances surviving in a BF-110 in IL-2 than a Stuka. The BF-110 I find can take quite a few hits. Stuka's are easy meat, especially in the hands of novice pilots.

You can talk to Hans Ulrich Rudel, the best Stuka pilot ever, he can give you some tips! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

marc_hawkins
11-10-2005, 02:58 PM
The BF-110 might be a great plane to "learn flying" on

yeah, the P40 is a good trainer (learned this thanks to neural_dream's guide) but the bf110 is very friendly too, plus you get lots more toys to try out with it as well.

Ralexand1988
11-11-2005, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by cawimmer430:
Well what do you know... Ich wohne in Deutschland (Bayern), aber ich war noch nie in Berlin. Eines Tages aber werde ich dieses Museum besuchen! Cross my heart! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

you are from germany? Me too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sch├┬Ân ein paar Landsleute hier zu treffen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. Ich komm aus sachsen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif...a little bit closer to Berlin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

polak5
11-11-2005, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by cawimmer430:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think it's beautiful and badass at the same time.

Exatly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I saw a fully restored one in the Technicummuseum Berlin (sorry if teh grm3r is slecht) last summer - and let me tell you, that was truly an arresting moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What a great AC she is! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lucky you buddy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I've never seen a BF-110 in real life. I did see a Heinkel He-111 and that thing is huge in real life. Can't imagine what a B-17 or B-29 must be in size. But yeah, the BF-110...what a hotty! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6110/4481578432533004wg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

standing there for some reason i expected it to be bigger, it looks huge in pictures dough

Lucius_Esox
11-11-2005, 02:46 AM
Yes the 110 is a great looking plane, and a very good one. But in game, and as found during Bob needs fighter cover when fighting day fighters, at night, well thats a different story.

It is a shame no track for that Pirch as that must have been one of them online "moments" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

panther3485
11-11-2005, 03:01 AM
Quote:

quote:
I think it's beautiful and badass at the same time.

Exatly I saw a fully restored one in the Technicummuseum Berlin (sorry if teh grm3r is slecht) last summer - and let me tell you, that was truly an arresting moment What a great AC she is!

Lucky you buddy!

I've never seen a BF-110 in real life. I did see a Heinkel He-111 and that thing is huge in real life. Can't imagine what a B-17 or B-29 must be in size. But yeah, the BF-110...what a hotty!


On a visit to Biggin Hill in 1969, I sat in a Bf110 for about 5 minutes. I got an eerie, tingling sensation combined with a sense of thrill and awe. This feeling was even more intense when I sat in the Bf109 that was in the same hangar. Wish I could do it again.


Best regards,
panther3485

cawimmer430
11-11-2005, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The BF-110 might be a great plane to "learn flying" on

yeah, the P40 is a good trainer (learned this thanks to neural_dream's guide) but the bf110 is very friendly too, plus you get lots more toys to try out with it as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, and you can also learn to control the planes "shake" when firing those powerful guns the BF-110 has. That plane was a real bomber-killer...and is in my game. Too bad enemy fighters are so pesky and my guys usually respond so late! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

cawimmer430
11-11-2005, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by Ralexand1988:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
Well what do you know... Ich wohne in Deutschland (Bayern), aber ich war noch nie in Berlin. Eines Tages aber werde ich dieses Museum besuchen! Cross my heart! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

you are from germany? Me too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sch├┬Ân ein paar Landsleute hier zu treffen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. Ich komm aus sachsen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif...a little bit closer to Berlin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ja! Wirklich toll einen Landsman in den Foren hier zu treffen! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Ich wohne in Bayern, also in einem kleinen Dorf namens M├╝hldorf am Inn. Da passiert nie was. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

cawimmer430
11-11-2005, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by polak5:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think it's beautiful and badass at the same time.

Exatly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I saw a fully restored one in the Technicummuseum Berlin (sorry if teh grm3r is slecht) last summer - and let me tell you, that was truly an arresting moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What a great AC she is! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lucky you buddy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I've never seen a BF-110 in real life. I did see a Heinkel He-111 and that thing is huge in real life. Can't imagine what a B-17 or B-29 must be in size. But yeah, the BF-110...what a hotty! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6110/4481578432533004wg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

standing there for some reason i expected it to be bigger, it looks huge in pictures dough </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow! Great picture! The B-17 is a huge plane, but in the picture I think it looks rather sleek and hence, the size effect could be affected. Hot bomber though. Everytime I attack one with a BF-109 or FW-190, something always happens to me. And it's not good. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

marc_hawkins
11-11-2005, 08:28 AM
Yup, bomber killing is what i like to do best in it...superior firepower and survives the defensive gunfire better, atleast for me. But still though i wish we had a fire extinguisher onboard thats for sure! some hairy moments I've had on one engine i can tell you... still, yet more good practise for multi engine management for beginners like myself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

msalama
11-11-2005, 11:02 AM
Everytime I attack one with a BF-109 or FW-190, something always happens to me. And it's not good. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Yep, for some strange reason I've noticed this too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Things can go from vaguely worrying to deathly horrendous in no time at all if you approach the geezer in a care-free and gentlemanly way... how peculiar http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

msalama
11-11-2005, 11:07 AM
Still, yet more good practise for multi engine management for beginners like myself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The Big Biffer(tm) - well, she's a great plane, but please take up an A-20G as well! Apples and oranges, sure, but the Douglas is an excellent AC in it's own right too...

You know, just for comparison and that.

marc_hawkins
11-11-2005, 12:46 PM
Things can go from vaguely worrying to deathly horrendous in no time at all if you approach the geezer in a care-free and gentlemanly way... how peculiar

you know this seems to happen to me alot... but i find it hard to be a cold efficient killer!

Yep, i'll be the one asking politley if i can possibly shoot you down and promply get wacked by some vulgar "its war! you moron!" type. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Have had a quick go on the A20, i do like her but i've been trying to stick to a few for now, and the 110 caught my eye... but thats the problem with this sim, sooo many planes to fly....Blimey, don't hear that much around here!

The way things are going, i can see myself becoming a twin engine man....