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gx-warspite
02-01-2006, 03:13 PM
I am now passing the deadly "Irish Straits", having tailed a convoy from the mid-Atlantic for the past few hours at a mix of 32x, 64x and 128x, which has been about a week in gametime. The whole time, I've had 15m/s wind, heavy fog, heavy rain. I've been essentially waiting for the weather to clear for a week so I can even ID my targets, never mind have enough range for torpedo calculations, but no such luck =/ If it was 1942 or later, I'd just spam torps at it, but I can't because I might hit neutral shipping now.

sigh

Dare I risk the wrath of the numerous destroyers, aircraft, etc? Fortunately my fuel consumption is fairly low since I've been humming along at a tepid 6 knot pace.

trident42
02-01-2006, 03:53 PM
tell me about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

The weather in the north Atlantic is just poo most of the times with storms lasting weeks, you'll just have to break contact and wait till the weather clears.

You have to be very close in heavy fog to ID and then the ship pitchs and rolls so much that getting a hit at all is a triumph and maintaining P-depth is terrible, i once spent ages on the surface inside a convoy in havy fog rain etc, ended up shooting one torpedo that passed under the keel of the ship i fired at that didn't explode before the escort turned up and i just dived and gave up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Paul_K
02-01-2006, 04:32 PM
RUb 1.45 is your fair-weather friend!

gx-warspite
02-01-2006, 05:03 PM
I am now in the Irish Sea, just South of that island in the middle of it and just West of Liverpool. The weather has finally cleared, I am making a night run ahead of the convoy.

Oddly enough, while the straits between Ireland and Scotland are a nightmare to navigate because of patrolling warships and aircraft, the Irish Sea seems safer for submarine operations - if you can penetrate that curtain of floating steel that are the straits.

vietvet1950
02-07-2006, 10:15 PM
I've also noticed that the weather doesn't seem to change during a patrol. When possible I like to at least cripple a few ships in a convoy with one torpedo each, wait for the "healthy" ships and escorts to move on, then finish them off with the deck gun. It seems that if you get "can't man deck gun in a storm" message on your first attempt, it's gonna stick with you for the entire patrol no matter how calm the sea looks through the scope or on the bridge.

flyingdane
02-08-2006, 12:20 AM
Yep" your right!

paulhager
02-08-2006, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by vietvet1950:
I've also noticed that the weather doesn't seem to change during a patrol. When possible I like to at least cripple a few ships in a convoy with one torpedo each, wait for the "healthy" ships and escorts to move on, then finish them off with the deck gun. It seems that if you get "can't man deck gun in a storm" message on your first attempt, it's gonna stick with you for the entire patrol no matter how calm the sea looks through the scope or on the bridge.

Not so. On a two week-plus patrol, expect at least 3 weather changes (the initial 5 m/s and two other states). I've had a few patrols that started out 5 m/s, went to 0 m/s and then stayed at between 0 and 5 m/s. I've also had patrols where the first weather change goes to 7 m/s or higher and then varies from 7 to 15 m/s for the rest of the patrol. My last patrol (Bruno Stachel VI - patrol 7) went from 5 m/s to heavy fog as I started to go through the English Channel, then went to 3 m/s at which point I detected a two CL task force (and sank one), then went to 0 m/s as I entered the Atlantic to reach my PZ, then went to 15 m/s for a couple of days, then below 5 m/s for about a week, finishing up around 15 m/s.

lecek
02-08-2006, 07:54 PM
I am not sure, but if you do a single mission, it loads the weather settings from the single mission.

You might have noticed that the games playes the difficulty settings of the last kalun you played. So if you play a kalun at 29% difficulty and then switch to a 100% kalun, you get all the 29% stuff. Until you re-load that is.

I think (I am not sure) that it is the same for the weather. I know from the mission editor that single missions have a weather setting.

In missions I play after my flack mission, the weather seems to change often. But I never kept records or anything so I can't be 100% sure.

MarkThomas1963
02-08-2006, 08:21 PM
I've had weather changes in the middle of an attack....

One convoy I encountered, the weather was listed as overcast, light fog with winds at 7, I had just torpedoed a T3, after sinking two other ships, when literally, the T3 disappeared in my periscope. When I inquired of the navigation officer, the weather had deteriorated to overcast, heavy fog with medium precipation and winds to 15, all within a matter of seconds.
The convoy simply vanished from sight. I did find that T3 on hydrophones, and crept on it slowly to finish it off with a second torpedoe (it had stopped dead in the water). By then the rest of the convoy had moved off, and except for a lingering escort that pinged and dropped depth charges a good 1000 meters away, I was able to sneak away unseen and unheard, on the surface...

The weather change definately saved the rest of that convoy, as I still had nearly a full load of torpedoes left. IT would have been impossible to find anything worth shooting at in that mess.

GT182
02-08-2006, 08:24 PM
Foul weather is a sub Kaptain's best friend, but only if he happens upon a convoy. The worst weather will let you reek havoc on shipping without the warships being able to detect you. And yes you can run at periscope depth using standard or full speed. That way you can keep up with the convoy if it's speed is 7kts. If there is heavy fog so much the better but be ready for ships popping up where you least expect them.... like on a collision course.

I just went thru this with a convoy heading north thu Grids DT98 to DT32 on. Chased and jumped ahead 3 times getting 10 ships and 1 Frigate(just because he was nosey) before running out of torpedos. Dates were April 18th and 19th, 1941. Never once chased by a warship but had a collision with a Tramp Steamer(Coastal Merch)... headon glancing blow with no hull damage. Sank his sorry butt with a stern torpedo. He'll never try that again. LOL Only thing was #3 bow tube would not load after the collision.

vietvet1950
02-08-2006, 09:09 PM
OK, I stand corrected, I just haven't experienced any weather changes I am aware of. Guess it's just bad luck on my part but thanks for the hope for the future.

MickeyMouse_
02-08-2006, 10:37 PM
9 out of 10 patrols this is how my weather goes: Leave dock with still waters and clear sky, a few days later it gets a little rough, a few more days later it's pouring down rain with heavy fog (thank you radar and radar warning), after a few more days of that it will stop raining and go cloudy with 10 kts winds and it stays that way to the end of the patrol. I've never pulled into port with it bright and still, and I've done ~70 patrols. I just downloaded Rub yesterday so I hope it becomes more realistic and the weather will change more frequently.

William66th
02-08-2006, 10:59 PM
There is a way to tweak the weather but im not sure if anyone has got it work. It is in the campaign file but i dont remember what part sorry. I know it is a standard text editor that I used to edit it but i dont see any results even in mission builder I set it to storm and I get no storm just simply clouds.

Search the forum and see if anyone knows what values will create a decent weather patern in the game.

Good luck I never got an answer on this topic

William
Captain
U-66
(Dry dock undergoing extensive repairs)