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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 05:44 PM
Hi all!

I have recently tried out a dynamic campaign in a He-111. Most of the missions are meant to be flown at altitudes of 4500-5500 meters. However when I reach an altitude somewhere around 4500 metres my engines start to put out thin gray/brown lines of smoke and I simply can't get my plane over, say, 4900 m even if I put on supercharger stage 2.

The AI Heinkels don't seem to have any problem like this and they climb easily at 5500 m. If I put on autopilot in my plane, the rpm jumps up and it climbs to 5500 wihout any effort.

Am I missing some kind of control adjustment or what?

Also I'd like to know, what is that green dot thingy in the cockpit.

Thanks in advance!


P.S. Is there any guide in web to fly this beauty in FB?

Message Edited on 09/03/0304:46PM by SonOfTheBeach69

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 05:44 PM
Hi all!

I have recently tried out a dynamic campaign in a He-111. Most of the missions are meant to be flown at altitudes of 4500-5500 meters. However when I reach an altitude somewhere around 4500 metres my engines start to put out thin gray/brown lines of smoke and I simply can't get my plane over, say, 4900 m even if I put on supercharger stage 2.

The AI Heinkels don't seem to have any problem like this and they climb easily at 5500 m. If I put on autopilot in my plane, the rpm jumps up and it climbs to 5500 wihout any effort.

Am I missing some kind of control adjustment or what?

Also I'd like to know, what is that green dot thingy in the cockpit.

Thanks in advance!


P.S. Is there any guide in web to fly this beauty in FB?

Message Edited on 09/03/0304:46PM by SonOfTheBeach69

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 05:45 PM
I guess this might have something to do with the "highalt FM 'bug'" although it's not really highalt and it's not really a bug /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 05:48 PM
I'm no He-111 officianado but am wondering whether decreasing your fuel mixture would help? Have you tried?

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 05:51 PM
Extreme_One wrote:
- I'm no He-111 officianado but am wondering whether
- decreasing your fuel mixture would help? Have you
- tried?

Yup. There is no fuel mixture control in He-111.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 06:02 PM
SonOfTheBeach69 wrote:
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- Extreme_One wrote:
-- I'm no He-111 officianado but am wondering whether
-- decreasing your fuel mixture would help? Have you
-- tried?
-
- Yup. There is no fuel mixture control in He-111.
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-

Doh! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
OK "I'm no He-111 officianado" should read "I don't know what the f**k I'm talking about..." /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 07:26 PM
SonOfTheBeach69 wrote:
- Hi all!
-
- I have recently tried out a dynamic campaign in a
- He-111. Most of the missions are meant to be flown
- at altitudes of 4500-5500 meters. However when I
- reach an altitude somewhere around 4500 metres my
- engines start to put out thin gray/brown lines of
- smoke and I simply can't get my plane over, say,
- 4900 m even if I put on supercharger stage 2.
-
- The AI Heinkels don't seem to have any problem like
- this and they climb easily at 5500 m. If I put on
- autopilot in my plane, the rpm jumps up and it
- climbs to 5500 wihout any effort.
-
- Am I missing some kind of control adjustment or
- what?
-
- Also I'd like to know, what is that green dot thingy
- in the cockpit.
-

The loss of engine performance at 4700m is a bug specific to the He-111. Either they removed the manual mixture control, but forgot to make it automatic, or they didn't intend to remove it in the first place. Don't ask me why the AI is not affected, but I suspect the AI's complex engine management is somewhat relaxed.



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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 07:30 PM
I fly the He-111's regularly and this is a very troublesome bug. The He-111H-2 should have a service ceiling of 7000m, at the current time I can't get her above 5000m with complex engine management. This is becuase the mixture control was removed in 1.1b and they didn't add auto control to it. If you turn off complex engine management then I think this problem goes away, but then your radiators will be full open all the time and you will be forced to fly at 60% power /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif . The Ju-87's also suffer from this bug.

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 07:47 PM
Maj_Death wrote:
- I fly the He-111's regularly and this is a very
- troublesome bug. The He-111H-2 should have a service
- ceiling of 7000m

Is that with or without bombload?

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 08:12 PM
Same goes for Stuka.. when you are over 5000 m black smoke from engine.. No fuel mix for Stukas either.

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 10:13 PM
Service ceiling usually means fully armed. But it can't get above 5000m even without a bombload.

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 11:59 PM
OK thanks guys!

I hope this bug will be fixed in the final patch (wich btw comes out in two weeks... be sure /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif )

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 01:07 AM
I have just become a complete Stuka nut... I love to dive bomb! Yes....I can climb the Stuka up to 5000m with 50% fuel load and a nice big fat loaf and then get the smoke from the engine. I a ready to tackle the He111 shame about the CEM! I hope it is fixed in the next patch!


Happy hunting and check six!

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