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Ba5tard5word
01-22-2011, 07:29 PM
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Hmm, fly in "over a dozen" planes? Well that's good.

leitmotiv
01-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Restrain me.

They even got the British MkI gunsight lens right this time (round).

Romanator21
01-23-2011, 12:16 AM
Hmm, fly in "over a dozen" planes? Well that's good.

Marketing will flop this game... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Stiletto-
01-23-2011, 06:14 AM
IMO this trailer was a huge screw up. I don't know if a poor system was used but the in game graphics look awful with no FSAA. Also, you can tell they weren't running at a very high resolution because even if you downsample something to 720p without FSAA, it will crispin up the jaggies and the overall picture will look much sharper.

This is the kind of crap that kills off potential fringe buyers. They will look at this video and deem it doesn't look much improved over IL-2 and that there are much better looking fligt sims out their for their dollar.

thefruitbat
01-23-2011, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by Romanator21:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Hmm, fly in "over a dozen" planes? Well that's good.

Marketing will flop this game... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

you remember how many flyable planes shipped with the original il2 right?

leitmotiv
01-23-2011, 07:28 AM
The core audience of dedicated flight sim aficionados will buy this, and, unless there is is something wrong with it, the rest will follow. A silly video is not going to influence the aficionados who have been following all the videos, screenshots, interviews, and notices posted by Oleg & Co. for the past seven years.

Romanator21
01-23-2011, 11:42 AM
you remember how many flyable planes shipped with the original il2 right?

There will be more than a dozen flyable planes available in CoD. It doesn't matter how many Il-2 came with; the marketing team is "underselling" this product.

There is also a German campaign that Ubi failed to mention in the item description, causing panic everywhere until Luthier made a post regarding it, and finally the marketing team hashed together footage from Oleg's and Luthier's low spec computers (which they use for optimization) rather than ones which can crank up the visuals. It's also pretty unexciting compared to the WoP trailers for instance, and overall, looks like it was done in a couple days.

stalkervision
01-23-2011, 12:06 PM
At the 38 second mark what the hell is this radial engine plane being attacked by a Hurricane??

Looks like a Japanese zero to me ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

anyone care to venture a guess?

Oh I know now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

trumper
01-23-2011, 12:15 PM
I think it's an Italian Macchi [possibly]

LtLenny
01-23-2011, 12:15 PM
I believe the radial-engined plane is a Fiat G.50. The Italians had a brief involvement in the Battle of Britain. If I recall, they did not do well.

leitmotiv
01-23-2011, 12:58 PM
That's a Fiat G.50 of the Italian contingent deployed to attack England in autumn 1940. A dumb inclusion because the G.50 never got into action with the RAF in its time on the coast. The biplane CR.42 and the bomber BR.20 did see action---to their cost.

stalkervision
01-23-2011, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
That's a Fiat G.50 of the Italian contingent deployed to attack England in autumn 1940. A dumb inclusion because the G.50 never got into action. The biplane CR.42 and the bomber BR.20 did see action---to their cost.

Yup..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpo_Aereo_Italiano

Ba5tard5word
01-23-2011, 01:12 PM
Jeez, what a buncha whiners! I thought it was a decent enough clip. A little corny but it gives you some looks at the planes and cockpits. The other videos I've seen of it were stuff like a guy bailing out or a plane puttering around doing nothing.

stalkervision
01-23-2011, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
Jeez, what a buncha whiners! I thought it was a decent enough clip. A little corny but it gives you some looks at the planes and cockpits. The other videos I've seen of it were stuff like a guy bailing out or a plane puttering around doing nothing.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

trumper
01-23-2011, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
That's a Fiat G.50 of the Italian contingent deployed to attack England in autumn 1940. A dumb inclusion because the G.50 never got into action with the RAF in its time on the coast. The biplane CR.42 and the bomber BR.20 did see action---to their cost.
For god sake don't point that out to them on the yellow ubi forums,you will get threatened with a ban LOL.

leitmotiv
01-23-2011, 02:05 PM
good grief

Uufflakke
01-23-2011, 02:07 PM
Yep, it was made on a crappy computer as Luthier said himself. And the editing is amateuristic too.
Maybe people familiar with Il2 and the development history of SOW/BOB/COD will buy the game but how about a new generation of gamers or for those who have never heard of IL2?
For them you need to come up with something more spectactular to attract their attention longer than 5 seconds.
This clip doesn't give the impression it is very revolutionary compared to IL2.
And as you know: "You never have a second chance for a first impression".
So give us something yaw dropping!

Rjel
01-23-2011, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
Yep, it was made on a crappy computer as Luthier said himself. And the editing is amateuristic too.


But why??? Is that hard to find talented movie makers around here? We all know it isn't and we all know who they are. Why doesn't Ubi?

stalkervision
01-23-2011, 02:28 PM
They need more explosions and body parts flying all over the place. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

JG53Frankyboy
01-23-2011, 03:40 PM
I would be not surprised if 1C would release another trailer before gamerelease.
And anyhow, the Best Marketing to get New players to the game will Be the youtube videos after release http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

About the italiens, G.50 And Br.20 will Be flyable, Cr.42 AI

leitmotiv
01-23-2011, 04:02 PM
Great, the one that did fight is AI and the one that never fought is flyable!

Low_Flyer_MkIX
01-23-2011, 04:45 PM
...and we haven't even got to the 'renegade RAF pilots' yet. They're probably zombies to boot.

TheGrunch
01-23-2011, 05:21 PM
Think about the children...eh-hem, I mean future addons, leit!

Mysticpuma2003
01-24-2011, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by Rjel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Uufflakke:
Yep, it was made on a crappy computer as Luthier said himself. And the editing is amateuristic too.


But why??? Is that hard to find talented movie makers around here? We all know it isn't and we all know who they are. Why doesn't Ubi? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I did offer to make a trailer for free..........never heard a jot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

PB0_shadow
01-24-2011, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by Romanator21:

There will be more than a dozen flyable planes available in CoD. It doesn't matter how many Il-2 came with; the marketing team is "underselling" this product.

There is also a German campaign that Ubi failed to mention in the item description, causing panic everywhere until Luthier made a post regarding it, and finally the marketing team hashed together footage from Oleg's and Luthier's low spec computers (which they use for optimization) rather than ones which can crank up the visuals. It's also pretty unexciting compared to the WoP trailers for instance, and overall, looks like it was done in a couple days.

The marketing team from Ubi agreed with Oleg on the press release, so if "Ubi failed to mention" the German Campaign, you can note that so did 1C.
Ubi can only give information they have, and they didn't have the one about the german campaign being ready to be included.

Finally, not sure the marketing team hashed anything, the trailer may have been by Oleg's team or Luthier directly (decision to issue it was probably Ubi, though)



Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkIX:
...and we haven't even got to the 'renegade RAF pilots' yet. They're probably zombies to boot.

I think it's Olegish for foreign pilots in the RAF, from countries under German occupation (Cezech, Poles, French etc...). considering the situation of their Air Forces, they'd be Renegades (for the Germans)

RSS-Martin
01-24-2011, 06:58 AM
There is more than that! They should have brought out a German collectors edition too. As after all what would all those Hurricanes and Spits have done without the Germans? Or is that just to coax more into flying Hurricanes and Spitfires, because there are fears that too many will join the "dark side"? I know of many on the German Ubi-forum that are just getting the standard version as they are not at all interested in the Spitfire stuff. But on the other hand not the first marketing blunder of Ubi.

thefruitbat
01-24-2011, 07:22 AM
what the hell is all this assumption that you can only fly blue or red? (not aimed at you RS-martin, its all over the various forums at the moment).

re the spitfire pilots notes that ship with the collectors edition, i have them already. Are such pilot notes so readily available for the emil, might explain somewhat why there not included to....

besides its the map and the 150 page ring binder i'm more interested in.

Course, it a great excuse for more red vs blue whining if people choose to interpret it as a 'red' collectors edition http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

PB0_shadow
01-24-2011, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
There is more than that! They should have brought out a German collectors edition too. .

Your opinion.

Mine differs.

To small a market to make a German collector edition.

RSS-Martin
01-24-2011, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by PB0_shadow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
There is more than that! They should have brought out a German collectors edition too. .

Your opinion.

Mine differs.

To small a market to make a German collector edition. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thats your opinion.

Mine differs.

I know the German market is so tiny that is why they donīt have a German Ubi forum.....
And Germany played also no significant role in the Battle of Britain.....

But donīt bother me I have a original manual for a He111 and a original US WWII cloth map so I donīt need the collectors edition.

RSS-Martin
01-24-2011, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
what the hell is all this assumption that you can only fly blue or red? (not aimed at you RS-martin, its all over the various forums at the moment).

re the spitfire pilots notes that ship with the collectors edition, i have them already. Are such pilot notes so readily available for the emil, might explain somewhat why there not included to....

besides its the map and the 150 page ring binder i'm more interested in.

Course, it a great excuse for more red vs blue whining if people choose to interpret it as a 'red' collectors edition http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thats o.k. Fruitbat.
The thing is not everyone is a fan of the Spitfire, there are just as many fans of the 109.
Especially in Germany there are far more for the 109 than the Spitfire.
I mean what would you British folks have said if the collectors verion was all about the Bf109?
I am certain there would have been some grumbeling! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PB0_shadow
01-24-2011, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
[Thats your opinion.

Mine differs.

I know the German market is so tiny that is why they donīt have a German Ubi forum.....
And Germany played also no significant role in the Battle of Britain.....



Never said that german market is tiny. Just to small for a specific collector edition
never said either that Germany didn't play a role.


Making up stuff or transforming others words doesn't lead to correct debate.

I got some info in a PM for you

Regards

Uufflakke
01-24-2011, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by PB0_shadow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
There is more than that! They should have brought out a German collectors edition too. .

Your opinion.

Mine differs.

To small a market to make a German collector edition. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Germany counts just a lousy 82 million inhabitants. It is the 14th most populous country in the world.
It is doing very well economically spoken and the majority of the population has a computer and internet connection. So no potential customers.
No need for a German edition at all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

thefruitbat
01-24-2011, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefruitbat:
what the hell is all this assumption that you can only fly blue or red? (not aimed at you RS-martin, its all over the various forums at the moment).

re the spitfire pilots notes that ship with the collectors edition, i have them already. Are such pilot notes so readily available for the emil, might explain somewhat why there not included to....

besides its the map and the 150 page ring binder i'm more interested in.

Course, it a great excuse for more red vs blue whining if people choose to interpret it as a 'red' collectors edition http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thats o.k. Fruitbat.
The thing is not everyone is a fan of the Spitfire, there are just as many fans of the 109.
Especially in Germany there are far more for the 109 than the Spitfire.
I mean what would you British folks have said if the collectors verion was all about the Bf109?
I am certain there would have been some grumbeling! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

for me personally, i'd of been very happy, since i already have the pilot notes for the spit mkII, MkVB, and MkIX http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

but i guess for me it boils down to the fact that i'm and aircraft fan, not a particular type, i love spits, mustangs, 109's, Fw's etc...

ask anyone in the Dogz, 109f4 is my favorite ride http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

do i feel like traitor, not so much, WWII was a while ago....

RSS-Martin
01-24-2011, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefruitbat:
what the hell is all this assumption that you can only fly blue or red? (not aimed at you RS-martin, its all over the various forums at the moment).

re the spitfire pilots notes that ship with the collectors edition, i have them already. Are such pilot notes so readily available for the emil, might explain somewhat why there not included to....

besides its the map and the 150 page ring binder i'm more interested in.

Course, it a great excuse for more red vs blue whining if people choose to interpret it as a 'red' collectors edition http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thats o.k. Fruitbat.
The thing is not everyone is a fan of the Spitfire, there are just as many fans of the 109.
Especially in Germany there are far more for the 109 than the Spitfire.
I mean what would you British folks have said if the collectors verion was all about the Bf109?
I am certain there would have been some grumbeling! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

for me personally, i'd of been very happy, since i already have the pilot notes for the spit mkII, MkVB, and MkIX http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

but i guess for me it boils down to the fact that i'm and aircraft fan, not a particular type, i love spits, mustangs, 109's, Fw's etc...

ask anyone in the Dogz, 109f4 is my favorite ride http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

do i feel like traitor, not so much, WWII was a while ago.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh I can understand that......what should I say? I have been flying for years now Japanese planes and avoiding the ETO. Mainly because of odd feelings. As my granddads where on both sides, one in the Germany army and the other on "Uncle Joes" side so that in theory they could have been shooting at each other. Since I got to know my one granddad and hear several stories, I can not really say I have a neutral stance to the topic.
But I still think a collectors edition with only Spifire stuff is excluding more than just a few "nut cases" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PB0_shadow
01-24-2011, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
[Germany counts just a lousy 82 million inhabitants. It is the 14th most populous country in the world.
It is doing very well economically spoken and the majority of the population has a computer and internet connection. So no potential customers.
No need for a German edition at all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Check your PM, you'll get a surprise

RSS-Martin
01-24-2011, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by PB0_shadow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
[Thats your opinion.

Mine differs.

I know the German market is so tiny that is why they donīt have a German Ubi forum.....
And Germany played also no significant role in the Battle of Britain.....



Never said that german market is tiny. Just to small for a specific collector edition
never said either that Germany didn't play a role.


Making up stuff or transforming others words doesn't lead to correct debate.

I got some info in a PM for you

Regards </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If that where so, why did Ubi bother offering the new sim first on amazon.de and not on amazon.uk or amazon.com? Or did I miss something?
I know some would like to have English only, but a great many countries have a differant opinion on that.
Your comment just shows that you are not that familiar how popular IL2 is in Germany and just because there are not many Germans here says nothing about the games popularity at all.

PB0_shadow
01-24-2011, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
If that where so, why did Ubi bother offering the new sim first on amazon.de and not on amazon.uk or amazon.com? Or did I miss something?
I know some would like to have English only, but a great many countries have a differant opinion on that.
Your comment just shows that you are not that familiar how popular IL2 is in Germany and just because there are not many Germany here says nothing about the games popularity at all.

Ubi didn't offer the sim on amazon.de first. It's just that amazon.de was quicker to list it.

Let's see, it was on Ubishop in France before amazon.de. That must mean that France is more important than Germany...or just that Ubi was quicker.
Yes, you missed something, and you're starting having straw arguments.

vBetter keep to what you would like (a German collector), as it is an understandable request (even though some, and probably Ubi, may disagree), than trying to give every possible justification to your request.

I'm certainly more familiar with IL 2 on different part of the globe that you will ever be. Can't say much more
Again, check your PM.
You probably won't believe me, but I can guarantee you it's the truth you'll find there.

The issue of the collector is not a Germany vs England anyway.

RSS-Martin
01-24-2011, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by PB0_shadow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
If that where so, why did Ubi bother offering the new sim first on amazon.de and not on amazon.uk or amazon.com? Or did I miss something?
I know some would like to have English only, but a great many countries have a differant opinion on that.
Your comment just shows that you are not that familiar how popular IL2 is in Germany and just because there are not many Germany here says nothing about the games popularity at all.

Ubi didn't offer the sim on amazon.de first. It's just that amazon.de was quicker to list it.

Let's see, it was on Ubishop in France before amazon.de. That must mean that France is more important than Germany...or just that Ubi was quicker.
Yes, you missed something, and you're starting having straw arguments.

vBetter keep to what you would like (a German collector), as it is an understandable request (even though some, and probably Ubi, may disagree), than trying to give every possible justification to your request.

I'm certainly more familiar with IL 2 on different part of the globe that you will ever be. Can't say much more
Again, check your PM.
You probably won't believe me, but I can guarantee you it's the truth you'll find there.

The issue of the collector is not a Germany vs England anyway. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure what ever you are right and I have my peace....love smart toddlers

Urufu_Shinjiro
01-24-2011, 11:03 AM
I can't wait till that first week after CoD comes out, everyone will be so busy playing the game they won't have time to come in here and flame each other, and I will be so busy flying I won't have to see this crap and moderate it.

In other words, knock it off already...

JG52Uther
01-24-2011, 11:11 AM
If you think this is bad you should visit 1C...
Would love to be there with a big red ban button!

stalkervision
01-24-2011, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Great, the one that did fight is AI and the one that never fought is flyable!

Al Bundy luck once again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=408976167847&id=83192e779540d96b37484f818012bace&index=ch1

Ba5tard5word
01-24-2011, 11:22 AM
Would Bf-109 promotional materials even be legal in Germany?

stalkervision
01-24-2011, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
I can't wait till that first week after CoD comes out, everyone will be so busy playing the game they won't have time to come in here and flame each other, and I will be so busy flying I won't have to see this crap and moderate it.

HA ! In your dreams. I give it at the most three hours. If that.

Make a post of the first people to get one and then time it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

stalkervision
01-24-2011, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
Would Bf-109 promotional materials even be legal in Germany?

Just the swastika would be a problem I imagine.

PB0_shadow
01-24-2011, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
Just the swastika would be a problem I imagine.

And a 109 without swastika would create an instant whinefest here and there....

leitmotiv
01-24-2011, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Great, the one that did fight is AI and the one that never fought is flyable!

Al Bundy luck once again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=408976167847&id=83192e779540d96b37484f818012bace&index=ch1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You are killing me!



.

Woke_Up_Dead
01-24-2011, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:

The thing is not everyone is a fan of the Spitfire, there are just as many fans of the 109.
Especially in Germany there are far more for the 109 than the Spitfire.

On forums such as these, yes, but not among casual fans of aviation or gaming. The Spitfire is a cultural icon, possibly the most recognizable plane by shape and name, ever. It was also flown by all or most of the Commonwealth nations, plus a few East European allies. And it has a cool, marketable name to boot.

stalkervision
01-24-2011, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Great, the one that did fight is AI and the one that never fought is flyable!

Al Bundy luck once again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=408976167847&id=83192e779540d96b37484f818012bace&index=ch1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You are killing me!



. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WTE_Galway
01-24-2011, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Woke_Up_Dead:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:

The thing is not everyone is a fan of the Spitfire, there are just as many fans of the 109.
Especially in Germany there are far more for the 109 than the Spitfire.

On forums such as these, yes, but not among casual fans of aviation or gaming. The Spitfire is a cultural icon, possibly the most recognizable plane by shape and name, ever. It was also flown by all or most of the Commonwealth nations, plus a few East European allies. And it has a cool, marketable name to boot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Easy solved, Oleg should introduce a combo-plane called the "Mk I MessaSpitzenFiren 109E" with a yellow nose, macho angular cockpit, 20 mm canon, merlin engine and elliptical wings ... it will be perfect for getting the unwashed masses to invest in the new game.

knightflyte
01-24-2011, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
I can't wait till that first week after CoD comes out, everyone will be so busy playing the game they won't have time to come in here and flame each other, and I will be so busy flying I won't have to see this crap and moderate it.

In other words, knock it off already...


I CAN'T GET PAST THE LOAD SCREEN!!!!!! F'n UBI!!!!!!



Just practicing. I don't envy you, Urufu.

Rjel
01-24-2011, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Mysticpuma2003:
I did offer to make a trailer for free..........never heard a jot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

What a shame. I remember walking past a Software Ect at the local mall in 1990 and seeing a looping replay of LucasArt's BoB sim. I stood there watching for quite sometime. That as much as anything sold me on computer games. I can only imagine how many extra sales Ubi and Oleg could garner from CoD if yours and others movie making skills were put to use.

Choctaw111
01-24-2011, 07:31 PM
The trailer is very welcomed to those of us waiting for this sim for so many years.
It is less appealing for those who are just finding out about CoD.
THIS is the time for all of those hard years of work to bring new customers to this genre and to this particular product by persuading them in with a bang up movie.
Get a great movie coupled with a great soundtrack and watch the new pilots come pouring in.

JG53Frankyboy
01-25-2011, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by PB0_shadow:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
Just the swastika would be a problem I imagine.

And a 109 without swastika would create an instant whinefest here and there.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you have to paint something on your tail it actually looks better without swastika http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/4034/4034.schmidt.jpg
http://www.franky.fliegerhospital.de/PikAs-keinHakenkreuz.jpeg

M_Gunz
01-25-2011, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
At the 38 second mark what the hell is this radial engine plane being attacked by a Hurricane??

Oh I know now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

It got me too! Thought I saw a FW!

Feathered_IV
01-25-2011, 03:50 AM
It does seem unusual that after working their guts out for seven years, they would choose to announce the game with such a poorly worded piece of copy and a video that doesn't raise the bar much above a regular Friday update. I'd have thought after all this time they might have prepared something a little more thoughtful. Given the moment the attention it deserved.

And the Mark Vb with cannons blazing... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/Feathered_IV/CliffsofStuff.jpg

bolox00
01-25-2011, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:


And the Mark Vb with cannons blazing... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif



Vb?? check the radiators (and exhausts) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Feathered_IV
01-25-2011, 06:42 AM
You're right. I just rounded it down in marques to the least improbable version. Is it meant to be a particular variant, or is it just a graphic artist's hybrid?

thefruitbat
01-25-2011, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
You're right. I just rounded it down in marques to the least improbable version. Is it meant to be a particular variant, or is it just a graphic artist's hybrid?

Mk 1b i would guess,

arthursmedley
01-25-2011, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
You're right. I just rounded it down in marques to the least improbable version. Is it meant to be a particular variant, or is it just a graphic artist's hybrid?

Hasn't it got two radiators!? The cannon....hmmmm,
d'ye think thats a clip lifted from Warbirds of Prey for, er 'promotional purposes?'

RSS-Martin
01-25-2011, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by arthursmedley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
You're right. I just rounded it down in marques to the least improbable version. Is it meant to be a particular variant, or is it just a graphic artist's hybrid?

Hasn't it got two radiators!? The cannon....hmmmm,
d'ye think thats a clip lifted from Warbirds of Prey for, er 'promotional purposes?' </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is Ubi not known for "cheating" a little bit when it comes to promos? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Xiolablu3
01-25-2011, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefruitbat:
what the hell is all this assumption that you can only fly blue or red? (not aimed at you RS-martin, its all over the various forums at the moment).

re the spitfire pilots notes that ship with the collectors edition, i have them already. Are such pilot notes so readily available for the emil, might explain somewhat why there not included to....

besides its the map and the 150 page ring binder i'm more interested in.

Course, it a great excuse for more red vs blue whining if people choose to interpret it as a 'red' collectors edition http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thats o.k. Fruitbat.
The thing is not everyone is a fan of the Spitfire, there are just as many fans of the 109.
Especially in Germany there are far more for the 109 than the Spitfire.
I mean what would you British folks have said if the collectors verion was all about the Bf109?
I am certain there would have been some grumbeling! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would have loved it

Xiolablu3
01-25-2011, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by arthursmedley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
You're right. I just rounded it down in marques to the least improbable version. Is it meant to be a particular variant, or is it just a graphic artist's hybrid?

Hasn't it got two radiators!? The cannon....hmmmm,
d'ye think thats a clip lifted from Warbirds of Prey for, er 'promotional purposes?' </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is Ubi not known for "cheating" a little bit when it comes to promos? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dont think UBI had one single influence on this video. I'm pretty sure it comes completely from 1C and Luthier.

Feathered_IV
01-25-2011, 07:53 AM
I dont think UBI had one single influence on this video. I'm pretty sure it comes completely from 1C and Luthier.

That makes it all the more strange that it should be such a half arsed promotion. I would have thought they'd want to make a bit more of a splash.

My personal opinion is that Ubi jumped the gun as soon as the latest contract was signed for distribution of Cliffs of Dover. Though the game isn't ready, I'll bet my hat that Ubi reckons it's damn well finished enough for them and is pushing hard for Oleg to slap a box around it and get it out the door. I also reckon it will take rather longer than March before we see it released. Though it guts me to even say it out loud.

DKoor
01-25-2011, 08:15 AM
Video:

Luftwaffe : RAF = 4:1 (including the Ju-88s sunk cargo)

As it could be seen, although RAF Hurricane had a chance to score on G.50, Englishmen probably couldn't do it since of heavily laughing stomach cramps.

bolox00
01-25-2011, 08:15 AM
re spit radiators:-

MkI+II- half round 'radiator' on port wing
http://www.the-blueprints.com/...rmarine_spitfire_1a/ (http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ww2planes/ww2-supermarine/9225/view/supermarine_spitfire_1a/)

MkV -round 'radiator' on port wing
http://www.the-blueprints.com/...rine_spitfire_mk_vb/ (http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ww2planes/ww2-supermarine/18730/view/supermarine_spitfire_mk_vb/)

MkIX- box 'radiators' on both wings
http://www.the-blueprints.com/...ine_spitfire_mk_ixc/ (http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ww2planes/ww2-supermarine/18729/view/supermarine_spitfire_mk_ixc/)

thefruitbat
01-25-2011, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I dont think UBI had one single influence on this video. I'm pretty sure it comes completely from 1C and Luthier.

That makes it all the more strange that it should be such a half arsed promotion. I would have thought they'd want to make a bit more of a splash.

My personal opinion is that Ubi jumped the gun as soon as the latest contract was signed for distribution of Cliffs of Dover. Though the game isn't ready, I'll bet my hat that Ubi reckons it's damn well finished enough for them and is pushing hard for Oleg to slap a box around it and get it out the door. I also reckon it will take rather longer than March before we see it released. Though it guts me to even say it out loud. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

to be fair though, you've spent most of the last 2 years saying its going to be vapourware.

DKoor
01-25-2011, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I dont think UBI had one single influence on this video. I'm pretty sure it comes completely from 1C and Luthier.

That makes it all the more strange that it should be such a half arsed promotion. I would have thought they'd want to make a bit more of a splash.

My personal opinion is that Ubi jumped the gun as soon as the latest contract was signed for distribution of Cliffs of Dover. Though the game isn't ready, I'll bet my hat that Ubi reckons it's damn well finished enough for them and is pushing hard for Oleg to slap a box around it and get it out the door. I also reckon it will take rather longer than March before we see it released. Though it guts me to even say it out loud. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

to be fair though, you've spent most of the last 2 years saying its going to be vapourware. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>He probably had a G.50 image in his mind. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

PB0_shadow
01-25-2011, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
[That makes it all the more strange that it should be such a half arsed promotion. I would have thought they'd want to make a bit more of a splash.

My personal opinion is that Ubi jumped the gun as soon as the latest contract was signed for distribution of Cliffs of Dover. Though the game isn't ready, I'll bet my hat that Ubi reckons it's damn well finished enough for them and is pushing hard for Oleg to slap a box around it and get it out the door. I also reckon it will take rather longer than March before we see it released. Though it guts me to even say it out loud.

Ubi has always had the contract for the "next sim" by Oleg. They could have release Oleg from obligations, but did not. Therefore, this game is published by Ubi outside Russia.
Oleg developped the game without interference from Ubi, and without giving much information to Ubi.
Ubi was certainly busy with other games and didn't try very hard to get info (anyway, even trying harder, they probably would not have gotten much, Oleg being what he is...)
When Oleg thought he had soething ready to show to Ubi, he did.
They agreed on a release date and on the press release. Ubi didn't force him. Ubi doesn't care about launching the game in march or June. They woulmd even probably prefer launching it after the end of their fiscal year (march), since their games sell well and they moved the release of some games from Q4 this year to Q1 next year, not for technical reasons
The trailer was done by Oleg's tema/Luthier. Ubi didn't work on it
Then the German campaign was announced as finished (note that Oleg didn't disclose that either on his press release)
Guys at Ubi still don't have much information from Oleg about the game (features, specs etc...)

Feathered_IV
01-25-2011, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
To be fair though, you've spent most of the last 2 years saying its going to be vapourware.

Its true that for a while there I really didn't think it would see the light of day. You must admit though, for a couple of years it looked pretty grim indeed. Mind you, I did say that I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong about that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I did find this though. Was pretty much on the money too. Even the bannana savants might have a hard time predating me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...701028486#7701028486 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2601013236/m/9161076486?r=7701028486#7701028486)

thefruitbat
01-25-2011, 08:48 AM
not bad, predicted in 2008 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

DKoor
01-25-2011, 09:59 AM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/101/sow-wait.jpg

...finally comes to an end.

leitmotiv
01-25-2011, 10:05 AM
After putting up with that toy on steroids, ROF, I am hoping the fish will deliver the goods---even halfway---because, at least, Oleg's design philosophy is far better. Videos, pfffttttttttt. You have to be very jaded to not get a high pulse rate from what is offing in that video.

biggs222
01-26-2011, 09:18 PM
you all caught that part where the emil takes out the hurri pilot in his cockpit? and that death animation?

I wonder what the animators created for a 'parachute kill'... not that I'd ever do such a thing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

knightflyte
01-27-2011, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
After putting up with that toy on steroids, ROF, I am hoping the fish will deliver the goods---even halfway---because, at least, Oleg's design philosophy is far better. Videos, pfffttttttttt. You have to be very jaded to not get a high pulse rate from what is offing in that video.


So I take it you won't be buying the Gotha then? I'm interested to see what 777 Studios manages to release for the campaign mode.

I'm not sure what the last patch number was, but it really increased the accuracy of the Handley gunners. I expect to get shot if I take crappy measures to ensure my safety, but .8km away and I'm flamed 90% of the time? Seriously Jason? FLAMED.... engine burning... I die.... flaming. Shooting through canvas should be something the games engine can allow. Seems that a pilot can't. Something's wrong there. So I'm forced to shoot above, thus leaving more vulnerable to opposing fire, or I have to hit an engine.

I'm not the best shot but, when watching a track, and I'm getting a lot of shots on engine I'd expect some flamage. It doesn't happen like in the previous patch.

Something changed between 15 and 16 (if those are the right patch numbers).



Sorry. I'm done now.

M2morris
01-28-2011, 10:11 AM
I got this from a youtube movie about IL2 CoD.
Is this really what it looks like when you bail out?
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/codbail.jpg

Monty_Thrud
01-28-2011, 02:15 PM
Will Oleg now be known as the Codfather?... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

WHAT!!...stop tutting at the back.

Low_Flyer_MkIX
01-28-2011, 02:26 PM
You'll get battered for that, Monty! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

stalkervision
01-28-2011, 02:49 PM
we're getting pun-ished http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Low_Flyer_MkIX
01-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Will we get Messerchips and Saveloy-Marchetti bombers?

If we wait long enough maybe we'll get... Mushy Pea-51's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ba5tard5word
01-28-2011, 04:07 PM
Supposedly Luthier is working on a Curry-an Theater of Operations expansion.

knightflyte
01-29-2011, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
Video:

Luftwaffe : RAF = 4:1 (including the Ju-88s sunk cargo)

As it could be seen, although RAF Hurricane had a chance to score on G.50, Englishmen probably couldn't do it since of heavily laughing stomach cramps.


Isn't that clicking sound empty magazines? I thought he took the shot, but was out of ammo.

RSS-Martin
01-29-2011, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
Supposedly Luthier is working on a Curry-an Theater of Operations expansion.
Yuck no vacuum cleaners, rather a Battle of France, and more early planes than UFOs.
Luthier should be Heinkeled for that!
I think I will make a tour of London with my He111, and drop my reguards! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif