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BaldieJr
04-19-2004, 02:01 PM
The Warclouds servers are getting very popular, but I'm wondering why more people aren't using Teamspeak?

Even if you are shy, or don't have a microphone, its good to be able to hear what the other players are doing.

Everyone yaps about "team play" being missing in DF servers. Not true. Use TeamSpeak on the servers that have it and you'll find that the game has megatons of team-play going on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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BaldieJr
04-19-2004, 02:01 PM
The Warclouds servers are getting very popular, but I'm wondering why more people aren't using Teamspeak?

Even if you are shy, or don't have a microphone, its good to be able to hear what the other players are doing.

Everyone yaps about "team play" being missing in DF servers. Not true. Use TeamSpeak on the servers that have it and you'll find that the game has megatons of team-play going on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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(, / ) /) /) , (, /
/---( _ // _(/ _ / __ ,""""]
+----/ ____)(_(_(/_(_(__(__(/____/__/ (__--------,' /---+
| / ( / ,' NR / |
|(_/ ..-""``"'-._ (_/ __,' 42 _/ |
+-.-"" "-..,____________/7,.--"" __]-----+

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SKULLS Virga
04-19-2004, 02:15 PM
Tried to get on last night but could not connect. I think it may be a firewall issue on my end.

VFS-22_SPaRX
04-19-2004, 03:37 PM
BaldieJr you got me on this one http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. When i first setup the Teamspeak server, i was trying to decide how high to set the max users. I set it at 50 and figured i would be upping it in a few days or so. But alas, i havnt upped it yet. I havnt seen more the 10 people using it at one time yet. Kinda strange if you ask me. Voice comms adds so much to the game, it suprises me that no one uses the server. Well, hopefully in the future more will get the TS server.

S~ SPaRX

Zen--
04-19-2004, 03:37 PM
I've met a lot of people there on the WC teamspeak server...it's very cool to 'meet' the person behind the online handle.

I think people in general are a little shy about public voice comms, but I've found WC's to have friendly people worth the time to talk to.

-Zen-

NetDaemon
04-19-2004, 03:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zen--:
I've met a lot of people there on the WC teamspeak server...it's very cool to 'meet' the person behind the online handle.

I think people in general are a little shy about public voice comms, but I've found WC's to have friendly people worth the time to talk to.

-Zen-
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For some non-native english speakers (me included), it's harder to talk and even understand spoken than written.

And there's lots of us out there, you know http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif



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Bamatt
04-19-2004, 03:44 PM
What is the IP address for the TS server? I need to write it down. The reason I dont use it is becasue my graphics get all whacked when I maximize the game, after joining teamspeak. So, I need to join it before hand. This will also keep me from changing teams when I join, as I cant go back and change.


-S!- [Chowder]BAMATT

BaldieJr
04-19-2004, 03:47 PM
I can understand shyness. I didn't talk to anyone at first either. I don't expect there are too many people with a willingess to talk to any group that seem to already know each other (often not the case) and are a little wrapped up in the current discussion.

However, even if you do no more than listen, you'll greatly help your team. When you know exactly what other pilots are doing, the game takes on an entirely new dimension.

Like I said, if you don't want to talk, thats fine, but at least join in. You'll be a team asset when you know whats going on, and you'll really enjoy the game more http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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/---( _ // _(/ _ / __ ,""""]
+----/ ____)(_(_(/_(_(__(__(/____/__/ (__--------,' /---+
| / ( / ,' NR / |
|(_/ ..-""``"'-._ (_/ __,' 42 _/ |
+-.-"" "-..,____________/7,.--"" __]-----+

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NetDaemon
04-19-2004, 03:52 PM
I found out it also adds some lag to my connection, and not being myself in the US, any extra lag is highly undesirable. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif



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crazyivan1970
04-19-2004, 04:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NetDaemon:

For some non-native english speakers (me included), it's harder to talk and even understand spoken than written.

And there's lots of us out there, you know http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hear ya man, you should hear Zen talking...all gibbrish to me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif and when they get together with SPaRX... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif..say no more http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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nickdanger3
04-19-2004, 04:10 PM
Guilty as charged - just got the USB headset and TeamSPeak and was too shy to talk when I went to Warclouds...but just listening was great.

Here's something - for those of us who aren't military or WAY into WWII or military stuff, is there a proper way to say "Hi", "I'm at the base at such-and-such", "Who needs help"?

So much of military AND online communication is, shall we say, unique, and there is undoubtedly an unwritten code of conduct that the cimmunity would have one adhere to.

I just don't want to come off like a jerk.
Or a newbie.
Though I am one.
A newbie, that is.

Zen--
04-19-2004, 04:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NetDaemon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zen--:
I've met a lot of people there on the WC teamspeak server...it's very cool to 'meet' the person behind the online handle.

I think people in general are a little shy about public voice comms, but I've found WC's to have friendly people worth the time to talk to.

-Zen-
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For some non-native english speakers (me included), it's harder to talk and even understand spoken than written.

And there's lots of us out there, you know http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif



"Friends don't let friends buy Nvidia FX cards"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And a lot of those guys don't speak english so well, that is true...but thats ok because when guests like that are on, everyone seems to just try a little harder to make the communication work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-Zen-

(and Ivan, we need to have a talk :|

TX Rahman
04-19-2004, 04:18 PM
I haven't been on the WarClouds TS server because I'm always on our own TX TS server. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Someone mentioned lag though in an earlier message. We've found through trial and error that the Speex 7.2 codec yields great results even with folks on dialup connections... just fyi... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Regards and Salute,
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BpGemini
04-19-2004, 04:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
...I'm wondering why more people aren't using Teamspeak?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Because we use Ventrillo. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif


Seriously we used to use Teamspeak but Ventrillo has been a crystal clear alternative for us.

I like it better any way.

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VFS-22_SPaRX
04-19-2004, 04:32 PM
Gemini,

With the new version of Ventrilo, you cannot host more the 8 players at one time without purchasing a liscense. I too prefer ventrilo and was going to purchase a liscense. But after reading thru the forums on Ventrilo's website, you must own a hosting company to buy one. So this leaves no way for me to run a ventrilo server. I thought i would just run the old server version and host the old client for download. Then i read the liscense agreement again, and it states that no one is allowed to offer for download ventrilos software. It can only be linked on the designers website. So basically, the designer shot free server hosting right in the foot. With the servers being out there in the public, i do not want to do anything that will violate his agreements and get lawyers knocking on my door. So we are stuck with Teamspeak. I really do not think it is bad at all. For teh dailup users, they can create their own low codec channels if they like.

S~

SPaRX

BpGemini
04-19-2004, 04:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VFS-22_SPaRX:
Gemini,

With the new version of Ventrilo, you cannot host more the 8 players at one time without purchasing a liscense. I too prefer ventrilo and was going to purchase a liscense. But after reading thru the forums on Ventrilo's website, you must own a hosting company to buy one. So this leaves no way for me to run a ventrilo server. I thought i would just run the old server version and host the old client for download. Then i read the liscense agreement again, and it states that no one is allowed to offer for download ventrilos software. It can only be linked on the designers website. So basically, the designer shot free server hosting right in the foot. With the servers being out there in the public, i do not want to do anything that will violate his agreements and get lawyers knocking on my door. So we are stuck with Teamspeak. I really do not think it is bad at all. For teh dailup users, they can create their own low codec channels if they like.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah we were kind of bummed to hear about that as well. I wasn't aware that the free 2.1 down load was gone though? It's the one we have now and there are no limitations. Crystal clear sound compared to Teamspeak. Hell, crystal clear compared to my home phone too.

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Snow_Wolf_
04-19-2004, 04:45 PM
in the war clouds +44 server when i usually play i am on teamspeak with my squad. (that private freq on teamspeak0 got say it works great as we been able to find each other can call out bogies that one of us may not see

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VFS-22_SPaRX
04-19-2004, 04:49 PM
Snow Wolf,

I know alot of Squads have their own Voice comms server. But this offers the chance for everyone on the servers to be able to communicate with each other. Image all 14 players on your team in channel together able to communicate. That teamwork everyone is striving for can be done then.

S~

SPaRX

civildog
04-19-2004, 05:04 PM
My group and I would love to use Teamspseak but we can't find any info on how to set it up, find servers for it, or just a user's guide.

Any help on these would be much appreciated by our aspiring squadron!

Dunkelgrun
04-19-2004, 05:16 PM
Damn, I didn't realise that WarClouds had Teamspeak channels. My squad use TS but I haven't been on Warclouds with them, I'd definitely have used the server comms whilst on my own if I'd known they were there.
Next time then.
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tttiger
04-19-2004, 06:28 PM
My experience with voice comms is that once you get beyond a few people it gets very cluttered.

I'm on voice with my squadron mates whenever we are on together. We've been flying together for about six years in several different sims and we can keep our transmissions short and to the point once the fight starts. Commo discipline it's called in the military.

We have tried several times to invite others we often fly with into our net. It's never been really satisfactory. Some of them jabber constantly (one guy gives a play-by-play of everything he does). If you need to tell a squaddie there's bandit closing on his 6 and someone is tying up the net with non-essential information, sometimes you can't get that warning to the guy who neeeds it.

Sorry, but being able to talk on one large open net, especially with people who have no military radio experience, does not strike me as a pleasant experience.

It may increase everyone's SA but it also may block vital transmissions.

We still use RW by the way. No complaints with it.

My $0.02.

ttt

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TX Rahman
04-19-2004, 06:55 PM
civildog,
Go to http://www.teamspeak.org and download the client. Then join one of the WarClouds servers in Hyperlobby. Sparx has it setup so the IP address for teamspeak is often in the message window while you're in the game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Write the IP down and add it as a favorite server in teamspeak http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

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Call_me_Kanno
04-19-2004, 08:35 PM
I got around to tryin the Warclouds Teamspeak this evening and although there was only one other person on while I was flyin I can say it was a lot of fun. We worked some strategy and call out bogys and bandits to each other. I think I'm going to make a habit of getting on comms.

Really the one reason I didn't before now is I was too lazy to hook my headphones back up.

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Blubble
04-19-2004, 08:45 PM
I tried using a program called Roger Wilco that seems to be similar to Teamspeak. I had a lot of problems with it even though I have a fast cable connection and a decent PC(Athlon 2000).

Does anyone have experience with both? Does TeamSpeak work better than Roger Wilco?

Also, where can I get TeamSpeak?

Call_me_Kanno
04-19-2004, 08:50 PM
Teamspeak is much better in my opinion. It's a lot clearer sounding and you got key binding options too. You can get it here.

http://www.teamspeak.org/

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Franzen
04-19-2004, 09:38 PM
I only use TS to get server IP addresses. Since I presently live in China and my ADSL is the ADSLOW version and I usually only play Chinese servers. I can't speak Chinese. More importantly, the sound quality is so poor, why bother? No, it's not my speakers. But it would be great if I could use it.

Fritz Franzen

JG7_Rall
04-19-2004, 10:42 PM
I'm on almost every night as Hutch51 but usually only see about 5 people on at the most...and its usually all the same people (sparx, swiss, anti, etc)

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adlabs6
04-20-2004, 12:37 AM
Well, I saw on the previous page a codec suggestion for 56k users. I had used the default settings since I installed, and each time the sound was horribly garbled and choppy. I changed the codec and joined the warclouds44 server to test, but I was alone on the comms for most of the time.

All I accomplished was embarrasing myself, getting shot down over and over. Tonight is the first time I've played FB in a month, and I'm all thumbs at it. I would mention the reason why... (LOMAC! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif ) but I won't. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Diablo310th
04-20-2004, 05:37 AM
I've used the TeamSpeak server on WarClouds before. it's great. Actually i find that it works very well. It's nice even in a DF server to be able to hook up with some other pilots and cover each other. It's also very interesting to talk with others from different countries. Of course i ahve never been accused of being shy and not tlaking tho. I wish more people would use this great service that is provided.

TX Rahman
04-20-2004, 06:40 AM
Adlabs,
We've (TX-Squadron) found that using a higher bandwidth does a couple of things...

1. Make the comms choppy and also could possibly introduce some lag depending on how many folks are connected and talking.

2. Makes the voices harder to hear. The better the quality....the harder I find it to hear and distinguish what is being said. (I'll tell you why).. We tested using the higher bandwidth (16.5k) on our TS server but found that the voices did not cut through all the engine noise etc. I kept bumping it down until I found a setting that kinda mimics a radio sound....something a bit more compressed and had more midrange so it would cut through all the noise....but is also still very understandable. More like the actual radios back in the day.

This is what we did....hope it helps someone else http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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SKULLS Virga
04-20-2004, 08:59 AM
After being yelled at by baldie I tweaked and adjusted, I checked and double checked addresses and settings, I opened ports and tested. Finally I pressed the connect button and whalla - it finally worked. I found myself flying on War Clouds with TS. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Unfortunately there was only one other player on the opposite side from me using comms. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

BaldieJr
04-20-2004, 09:20 AM
Stick around if the TS channels are empty. Sometimes its a full-house, sometimes its dead.

I've talked with several of the people in this thread, but I don't think they knew it.

I'm going by 042 on HL these days. Sorry for the confusion, but I needed a break from some of the chat-addicts who don't use HL to fly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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______ _____
(, / ) /) /) , (, /
/---( _ // _(/ _ / __ ,""""]
+----/ ____)(_(_(/_(_(__(__(/____/__/ (__--------,' /---+
| / ( / ,' NR / |
|(_/ ..-""``"'-._ (_/ __,' 42 _/ |
+-.-"" "-..,____________/7,.--"" __]-----+

</pre>

HayateKid
04-20-2004, 10:08 AM
I can't use teamspeak. Because when I play the baby monitor is on. I already have the volume set very low so I can hear when my son/wife cries for me.

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civildog
04-20-2004, 10:19 AM
rahmanoodle:

Thanks for the tip...we'll check it out and get it set up ASAP. No more typing and flying at the same time...now I'll finally stop running into other planes!

DuxCorvan
04-20-2004, 12:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HayateKid:
I can't use teamspeak. Because when I play the baby monitor is on. I already have the volume set very low so I can hear when my son/wife cries for me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A good reason to set volume high. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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SKULLS Virga
04-20-2004, 01:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HayateKid:
I can't use teamspeak. Because when I play the baby monitor is on. I already have the volume set very low so I can hear when my son/wife cries for me.

"First learn stand, then learn fly. Nature rule, Daniel San, not mine." - Mr. Miyagi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like its time to patch the baby monitor into Team Speak. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif