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BSS_CUDA
04-03-2004, 07:36 AM
Hopefully when they make PF they will get the carrier size right. I always hated that about CFS2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif you could only get 10 aircraft on deck, totally undersized models, in RL they had 40+ aircraft on deck before a strike. I'm hopeing that it will be proper scale. cant wait to get in there and sink the enemy carrier(s) and end the mission should make for some VERY interesting mission single or multiplayer. could you imagine a Midway mission 4 Jap and 3 US carriers plus the land based planes and the hundred support ships on both sides? NOW THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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BSS_CUDA
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That was some of the best flying I've seen yet! right up to the part where you got killed.
you NEVER NEVER leave your wingman.

Jester : TopGun

BSS_CUDA
04-03-2004, 07:36 AM
Hopefully when they make PF they will get the carrier size right. I always hated that about CFS2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif you could only get 10 aircraft on deck, totally undersized models, in RL they had 40+ aircraft on deck before a strike. I'm hopeing that it will be proper scale. cant wait to get in there and sink the enemy carrier(s) and end the mission should make for some VERY interesting mission single or multiplayer. could you imagine a Midway mission 4 Jap and 3 US carriers plus the land based planes and the hundred support ships on both sides? NOW THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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BSS_CUDA
Co-Founder of my family
Black Sheep Tactical Officer

That was some of the best flying I've seen yet! right up to the part where you got killed.
you NEVER NEVER leave your wingman.

Jester : TopGun

VW-IceFire
04-03-2004, 08:11 AM
In general thats one thing about FB and IL2 that is dead on...the scale of things is essentially perfect. I don't think they will compromise on this at all.

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Ted04
04-03-2004, 08:33 AM
One of the biggest issues in CFS2 carrier ops wasn't the siaze of the deck, as much as it was the size of the collision bubble around the aircraft. Add to that, the fact that the wing fold was only a "visual" animation, and didn't reflect on bubble size at all. In practice, we needed to maintain min safe of 25 yards between aircraft, and that while trying to taxi around the deck using CFS2's limited ground manuevering capability, with no spotters.

In actuality, the planes would fold wings, taxi forward over the barrier, and get "pretty close" to the deck spot, where the handlers would push them into place. Using this method, a pretty dense "spot" could be created.
http://history.navy.mil/photos/images/g460000/g469319.jpg

As you can see here on Hornet. What PF needs, is some sort of key command that would automatically move your plane to the next available spot location to simulate the manual action of the flight deck crew. Also, a "re-spot" type key command to configure the decl spot for launches.

Just an idea...

luthier1
04-03-2004, 09:51 AM
But of course we'll get the size right! Why would we even consider making them a different scale? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.il2center.com/PF.jpg

heywooood
04-03-2004, 11:28 AM
Luthier - thanks again for being all over this board..

The carrier scale is a "big" issue and I am glad that the items that are possible within the framework of this (FB) programm will be as accurate and detailed as you and Co. can make them..

Any chance we might see one of these carriers up close and personal anytime soon?

~S~

JG7_Rall
04-03-2004, 04:49 PM
Luthier, you rock. This sim is going to rock as well. You're like Oleg when it comes to responding to peoples posts but you reply to nearly all of them. I understand you're busy but keep up the good work! We all really appreciate you answering our questions.

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WWMaxGunz
04-03-2004, 05:11 PM
There were some small carriers the US made. They were made to provide mobile landing fields and refule points for planes crossing the wide open waters. Moving planes and men that way was much faster than using full size carriers travelling all the way in and back. The nickname was Jeep Carriers. So if you see a smaller, lower and cheaper made carrier, it may be modelled on one of those.


Neal