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XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 11:33 PM
For those who haven't been in awhile, contruction is ongoing and exhibits are moving. I recommend waiting a few months to see what the final goodies are but things are looking GOOD now.
From WWII/Korea we have:

Uhmerican!:
-A-20G Havoc
-A-26C
-B-17G
-B-24D
-B-25B
-B-26G
-B-29 "Bockscar", the Nagasaki bomber
-B-50 an upgraded B-29
-B-36 biggest friggen plane there. Six P&W R-4360s and four GE J-47s.
-P-47 D in both razorback and bubbletop
-P-38L
-P-39Q Early model, mentions four 0.50 cal guns
-P-61C Black Widow
-P-63
-A-36A Apache, the aircraft that developed into the P-51
-P-51B
-P-51D
-P-82B What happens when you combine engineers, alcohol and crazy glue. Literally two P-51 fuselages stuck together (think He-111Z)
-P-59A

British:
-Mk. IX Spitfire
-Mk. XI Spitfire? The Mk. IX was marked, this one was not
-Mk. IIA Hurricane
-DH-98 Mosquito
-Beaufighter exhibit coming eventually

Axis:
-Bf 109G-10
-Fw 190D-9
-Ju 88D Painted in ROMANIAN colors
-Me 262A-1 Exhibit includes German guns for easy size comparison. The Mk. 108 is SHORT.
-Me 163B Komet Rocket motor included
-MC-200 Maeta Lovely paint scheme
-Ju-52 (outside)
-Ohka "Cherry Blossom" rocket propelled suicide bomb (trainer)
-Fi 156C-1
-Zero on its way! (A6M2)
-Mini exhibit on the Do-335 and He-162.

Other cool exhibits:
-MiG-15bis
-MiG-17
-TACIT BLUE stealth prototype
-F-117A
-YF-22
-Predator drone
-Global Hawk mockup (this sucker is BIG)

They actually have some NEW exhibits here, which is a big suprise if you've been there before.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/index.htm

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-"
-Major General John Sedgwich, Battle of Spotsylvania

XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 11:33 PM
For those who haven't been in awhile, contruction is ongoing and exhibits are moving. I recommend waiting a few months to see what the final goodies are but things are looking GOOD now.
From WWII/Korea we have:

Uhmerican!:
-A-20G Havoc
-A-26C
-B-17G
-B-24D
-B-25B
-B-26G
-B-29 "Bockscar", the Nagasaki bomber
-B-50 an upgraded B-29
-B-36 biggest friggen plane there. Six P&W R-4360s and four GE J-47s.
-P-47 D in both razorback and bubbletop
-P-38L
-P-39Q Early model, mentions four 0.50 cal guns
-P-61C Black Widow
-P-63
-A-36A Apache, the aircraft that developed into the P-51
-P-51B
-P-51D
-P-82B What happens when you combine engineers, alcohol and crazy glue. Literally two P-51 fuselages stuck together (think He-111Z)
-P-59A

British:
-Mk. IX Spitfire
-Mk. XI Spitfire? The Mk. IX was marked, this one was not
-Mk. IIA Hurricane
-DH-98 Mosquito
-Beaufighter exhibit coming eventually

Axis:
-Bf 109G-10
-Fw 190D-9
-Ju 88D Painted in ROMANIAN colors
-Me 262A-1 Exhibit includes German guns for easy size comparison. The Mk. 108 is SHORT.
-Me 163B Komet Rocket motor included
-MC-200 Maeta Lovely paint scheme
-Ju-52 (outside)
-Ohka "Cherry Blossom" rocket propelled suicide bomb (trainer)
-Fi 156C-1
-Zero on its way! (A6M2)
-Mini exhibit on the Do-335 and He-162.

Other cool exhibits:
-MiG-15bis
-MiG-17
-TACIT BLUE stealth prototype
-F-117A
-YF-22
-Predator drone
-Global Hawk mockup (this sucker is BIG)

They actually have some NEW exhibits here, which is a big suprise if you've been there before.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/index.htm

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-"
-Major General John Sedgwich, Battle of Spotsylvania

XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 11:40 PM
link doesnt work /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 11:43 PM
Odd, works just fine for me.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-"
-Major General John Sedgwich, Battle of Spotsylvania

XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 12:03 AM
I'm roadtripping there in August with a friend. I visited the Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola a couple of weeks ago. I highly recommend it. They have virtually every U.S. Naval plane from WWI to the present. They also had a Zero (in poor condition) and a P-40 done up in Flying Tigers colors.

Looking forward to the trip to Wright-Patterson.

Oudy

XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 12:24 AM
"-Ohka "Cherry Blossom" rocket propelled suicide bomb (trainer)"


Okay, I give ... how do you train to fly a suicide bomb? Do you think anybody washes out from the course? If you die in a training accident, how do they word the notice to your next of kin? Hmmmmm ...


I've been to both museums several times and enjoyed them both very much. The Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola is smaller than the USAF museum and reminds me a lot of the Smithosonian Air & Space gallery. There's some cool dioramas you walk through; one is a WWII aircraft carrier maintenance bay with adjoining crew rooms and another is an airfield in the Pacific about the same time. You enter into the display through a 1940s small town main street and can enter a general store or look in a house. Very much like the Smithsonian galleries. One of my favorite dioramas, though, is this dark room where you feel you are underwater and you look at two salvaged fighter wrecks resting in sand. There was no effort to restore them.

The USAF museum is larger with several adjoining hangars filled with planes and a long line of static aircraft displayed outdoors. There are also relics of the space program including the line of satellite and nuclear warhead-tipped missiles. You'll also see the huge transports and bombers there. The main gallery is crammed with displays that are partially dioramas, partially display cases. Most of the vintage planes are kept in the main gallery. Lots to see there and definately worth the trip.

XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 01:09 AM
Mind you, things are undergoing MASSIVE revision. The static displays have been moved all around, the XB-70 has been moved somewhere, etc. They have a new hangar open, which allows them to move more stuff in.

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-"
-Major General John Sedgwich, Battle of Spotsylvania

XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 08:15 AM
Sweet they have a P-61, I love the Black Widow always wanted to see one in real life.
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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 10:28 AM
i need pics not list



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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 01:16 PM
Okay, gotta brag. My dad was on the team that rebuilt the Me2623 and the Martin B10. I got to see the roll-out.. what a beautiful airplane. Had a genuine Schwalbe pilot there to talk. I'm in the AF now, same career field as my Dad, hope to go the the museum again before I retire, or just afterwards (BIG motorcycle trip plan!). I hope any of you that read this get to go to that museum one day. I've heard it's wonderful!


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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 02:01 PM
I live down the road - good museum indeed!

You know about inventing flight this summer right?

http://www.inventingflight.com/index.php


Going to be a blast - exhibits, 4 days of airshows, etc...

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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 02:54 PM
Dayak wrote:
- i need pics not list
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Try clicking on the links.



"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-"
-Major General John Sedgwich, Battle of Spotsylvania

XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 03:12 PM
I'll be going there..... after the move..... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 05:33 PM
I've been there before! It was awesome!!

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XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 09:30 PM
Hi all,

I went last year in June. If you go, check and see what days they are doing the "Behind the Scenes" tours (on their website). You will go into the base to the hangars where they are restoring aircraft. When I went some of the main projects were a biplane, an RB-47, and the B-2 bomber that was used for stress tests (so it broke, so it can't be flown, but it is still the same plane- but the left wing has been reattached). There is also the YF-22 prototype and several other aircraft outside (they went with the 23) These are different from the Presidential and R+D hangar tours.

You need to be 16 and up (or was it 18?) and have a US-Government issued ID (a state driver's license will work), not sure if foreigners could use their passport. And they check the list! It was interesting to see one of the sentries, AR-15 (I think) on his back, get on the bus and take the list as we went into the actual base. If you go, call ahead and have them put you on the list, because they only take a bus load of people, and then that's it.

-Lew