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DKoor
05-01-2007, 06:30 PM
Here it is an US aircraft (almost certainly the P-51) attacking an unknown E/A:
1)
http://i15.tinypic.com/54o4ver.gif
...
2)
http://i14.tinypic.com/4p0e80i.gif
http://i12.tinypic.com/6d2iy5j.gif
...two shots for better recognition.

It's possible that this is same type of aircraft but as well may not be.

PBNA-Boosher
05-01-2007, 06:47 PM
It looks like a 190's profile to me.

berg417448
05-01-2007, 06:48 PM
FW-190

BigKahuna_GS
05-01-2007, 07:00 PM
Looks like footage from "Mustangs over Japan".

It is probably a Ki84. There is footage almost identical to this that shows the 2 rising sun japanese markings on top of the wing.

R_Target
05-01-2007, 07:33 PM
Ki-44?

MrMojok
05-01-2007, 07:34 PM
The first shot looks like a 190 to me but the other two look like some sort of Japanese machine.

Sorry I can't be more specific than that but my virtual pilot has always flown in Europe. I'm missing out on half the goodness of the game, aren't I?

Longpo
05-01-2007, 07:42 PM
At first it does look like a 190, the size of the wings make it look like a Dora but the nose is abit small.

I vote Ki-84.

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VW-IceFire
05-01-2007, 07:44 PM
Spent some time looking at the pictures and using one of my various aviation books full of profiles. I'm fairly certain its a FW190A. It looks a bit odd because the colors are so flat and there isn't much detail but I'm going to say FW190A. I looked at the Ki-84 and Ki-44 and it doesn't quite match...the trailing edge of the wing and the elevators and rudder don't seem to match.

And yes MrMojok, you're missing a fair bit by not flying in the Pacific as well. That P-51 from your signature can really be appreciated in the Pacific against planes like the A6M5, Ki-61, Ki-100...the P-51 can't turn with them but it can flame them and run away or chase without any problems. The Ki-84 and N1K-2J are probably the two to be most feared.

DuxCorvan
05-02-2007, 03:34 AM
IMHO, Fw-190A, the cockpit profile is quite distinct.

BGs_Ricky
05-02-2007, 03:45 AM
I'd say FW-190A too...

luftluuver
05-02-2007, 04:55 AM
Definately not a Ki-44 as the stab was tapered and had wing root extentions. The K-84 also had a tapered stab.

Fw190A, be sure.

DKoor
05-02-2007, 04:55 AM
Here it is that actual guncam from which this pictures were taken;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9QGUR9acUw&NR=1

I didn't want to post that link to avoid confusion, but I myself have doubts, the biggest one are the wings on the aircraft on first picture..... AFAIK Ki-84 has wing leading edge under almost 90? to fuselage, while 190A/D have slightly bigger angle....

Quick edit - they are in fact quite similar in profile - but there are most noticeable wing and tail differences;
http://i11.tinypic.com/63m715k.gif
http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub33ux.gif

Heliopause
05-02-2007, 05:07 AM
19th second, enemy plane in left turn. Just as it leaves the frame on the left side you can see japanese roundels. I go for a Ki-84.

Ratsack
05-02-2007, 06:44 AM
I think you have a strong imagination, like your avatar!

cheers,
Ratsack

StG2_Schlachter
05-02-2007, 07:19 AM
The title says Ki-84 (thanks for pointing that out :-) ). The fuselage looks kind of fat in the middle. My first guess was a Ki-44.

http://avia.russian.ee/pictures/japan/nakajima_ki-44.gif

But the landscape looks middle-european (are those fir trees?). If you observe how the E/A drops its nose in the turn to prevent stalling and considering the turn rate of the P-51 I would say Fw-190.

tigertalon
05-02-2007, 07:21 AM
I'm with 190. Cockpit profile that continues smoothly into a fuselage behind on second pic you posted and squared tail give it away.

Xiolablu3
05-02-2007, 07:25 AM
The bottom two look like a 'stretched' Ki84 or possibly a Ki100 with a bubble top canopy if they made them.

Heliopause
05-02-2007, 08:26 AM
Dkoor how did you get the still pictures from the clip?
You can make one from the 19th second to make this a little more clear.

horseback
05-02-2007, 09:12 AM
First one looks an awful lot like a 190 to me, but the second two have wings too long for a 190, so I'd guess Ki-100 with cut down rear fuselage (this was a fairly common version in the late months of the war).

The problem with these 'documentaries' is that they tend to be a bit sloppy about mixing and matching gun camera footage. It's certainly possible that the makers simply used stock footage that's been around for the past 40-50 years or more.

cheers

horseback

DKoor
05-02-2007, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by horseback:
wings too long for a 190 My thoughts exactly!

Yellow_Sub
05-02-2007, 09:44 AM
Imho, the landscape looks more European than Asian,(at 0:50 you can see some buildings), so I would say it can't be a Japanese plane.

DKoor
05-02-2007, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Heliopause:
Dkoor how did you get the still pictures from the clip?
You can make one from the 19th second to make this a little more clear. I just pause it by clicking play/pause button, then PRT SCR and do the job with the photo edit tool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

John_Wayne_
05-02-2007, 10:17 AM
Had a play - any help?

19 seconds in...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/capture_02052007_170122a.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/capture_02052007_170122b.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/capture_02052007_170122d.jpg


Later...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/capture_02052007_170144.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/capture_02052007_170144a.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/capture_02052007_170144b.jpg