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ArendAkelig
09-02-2007, 02:08 PM
I've seem to have a hard time building speed in those airplanes. For example, many sources state the p40b/c has a max speed of about 340 mph, which is ofcourse in the best circomstances. But I can hardly get to 250 mph in level flight and I have to dive to even aproach the max speed. I fly with the flaps up, the radiator flaps closed and at 110% power, mostly at a altitude of 1000 to 3000 meters. Even tinkering with the prop pitch doesent really build much more speed.

berg417448
09-02-2007, 02:26 PM
Are you talking about Indicated Airspeed or True Airspeed? There is usually a big difference. The speeds that you see in game are going to be indicated airspeed while the top speeds you see for aircraft in books are almost always true airspeed.

If you change to the cockpit display that has those big "comic book" style gauges shown, it gives true airspeed in kph.

TAS calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/tasinfocalc.html


Make sure that you have your plane trimmed properly too if you want top speed.

Wild.Bill.Kelso
09-04-2007, 02:17 PM
In the difficulties do you have Complex Engine Management on? Turn that off if you do.

buzzsaw1939
09-04-2007, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
Are you talking about Indicated Airspeed or True Airspeed? There is usually a big difference. The speeds that you see in game are going to be indicated airspeed while the top speeds you see for aircraft in books are almost always true airspeed.

If you change to the cockpit display that has those big "comic book" style gauges shown, it gives true airspeed in kph.

TAS calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/tasinfocalc.html


Make sure that you have your plane trimmed properly too if you want top speed.

slight correction here.

Your air speed gauge gives you (indicated) airspeed, true air speed is calculated! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Maybe you just said it wrong!

Crash_Moses
09-04-2007, 02:50 PM
I think he was talking about Wonder Woman view, Buzz. If you have 'cockpit always on' turned off in difficulty you can actually turn off the cockpit and view the world as if your plane was invisible (thus the term Wonder Woman view). While in WW view you get 'true' airspeed and altitude gauges in kph and meters respectively.

WW view is great for practicing your gunnery or carrier landings but It's just too disorienting for me to fly with it normally. I need to see my cockpit! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

berg417448
09-04-2007, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by buzzsaw1939:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by berg417448:
Are you talking about Indicated Airspeed or True Airspeed? There is usually a big difference. The speeds that you see in game are going to be indicated airspeed while the top speeds you see for aircraft in books are almost always true airspeed.

If you change to the cockpit display that has those big "comic book" style gauges shown, it gives true airspeed in kph.

TAS calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/tasinfocalc.html


Make sure that you have your plane trimmed properly too if you want top speed.

slight correction here.

Your air speed gauge gives you (indicated) airspeed, true air speed is calculated! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Maybe you just said it wrong! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you don't understand what view I'm speaking of.

If you scroll through the views and come to the "Comic book" looking big gauges...they show TAS in kph. The game calculates it for you in that view.

buzzsaw1939
09-04-2007, 08:34 PM
Ah Ha!.. I never knew that!..I thought you just made a slip in your words, I stand corrected! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

lowfighter
09-04-2007, 09:54 PM
As berg said, it must be the IAS-TAS difference plus maybe flying the plane not sufficiently smoothly. Trim would help making things easier.
At sea level I looked in Hardballs viewer and the maximum TAS (should be equal to IAS but for some reason there's a small difference when comparing the speed bar (IAS) with the wonder woman (TAS) indication) is 474 Km/h or 295 mph.

FritzGryphon
09-04-2007, 09:55 PM
If no one said already, close your radiator, raise your flaps, raise your gear and close your canopy. Also, do not attempt a speed record while on the ground.

lowfighter
09-04-2007, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by FritzGryphon:
If no one said already, close your radiator, raise your flaps, raise your gear and close your canopy. Also, do not attempt a speed record while on the ground.

lol, he already mentioned these in his post http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Pigeon_
09-05-2007, 09:19 AM
Make sure you pay a visit to the toilet before you take off. :P

The radiator... I thought it's influence on your speed wasn't modelled? I always have it fully opened. Maybe not the best way to fly? If it slows you down... how should one operate the radiator settings?

ytareh
09-05-2007, 09:40 AM
Is the open canopy really modelled as a drag increaser?Surely not?

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-06-2007, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by ytareh:
Is the open canopy really modelled as a drag increaser?Surely not?

Surely yes.

JG53Frankyboy
09-06-2007, 09:49 AM
open radiators
open cockpits
additional bombracks

all are causing drack in game..................

FritzGryphon
09-06-2007, 08:07 PM
If it slows you down... how should one operate the radiator settings?

To be specific, an open radiator will reduce your top speed by 15-30 km/h, depending on plane type and altitude.

In the Bf-109K4, keeping the radiator fully open during a sprint will increase the survivable WEP time by roughly 2 minutes, or about 1/3 longer than a closed radiator.

But of course, you will go slower during this sprint. It is a complex question that requires a good deal of testing to answer.

VW-IceFire
09-06-2007, 08:54 PM
Even just the way you fly will cause your plane to not be as fast as others. Air racing with identical planes proved this to me. Everyone in the pack was flying the same planes and despite several being very good at engine management and running more or less the same settings the one guy was out ahead because he was just that much smoother on the controls and had the plane better balanced (trim mostly I suspect). Not to be discounted.

ArendAkelig
09-09-2007, 07:45 AM
how fast can you all fly a p40 in level flight?

DKoor
09-09-2007, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by FritzGryphon:
If it slows you down... how should one operate the radiator settings?

To be specific, an open radiator will reduce your top speed by 15-30 km/h, depending on plane type and altitude.

In the Bf-109K4, keeping the radiator fully open during a sprint will increase the survivable WEP time by roughly 2 minutes, or about 1/3 longer than a closed radiator.

But of course, you will go slower during this sprint. It is a complex question that requires a good deal of testing to answer. +1

DKoor
09-09-2007, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by ArendAkelig:
how fast can you all fly a p40 in level flight? I'll test it just for you....lol I have tested zillion planes from teh sim but skipped the 40 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

DKoor
09-11-2007, 10:39 AM
Here it is:

http://www.speedyshare.com/777815416.html

major_setback
09-11-2007, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by berg417448:
"Indicated Airspeed or True Airspeed? "

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4b/HolyGrail036.jpg/300px-HolyGrail036.jpg

DKoor
09-11-2007, 10:53 AM
TAS

DKoor
09-11-2007, 02:50 PM
ps. V4.08 test

P-40M on deck: 484km/h TAS
P-40M on 6100 (top speed alt): 583km/h TAS