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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:23 AM
Hi

Just wondering when people use the Rudder in Il-2??

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:23 AM
Hi

Just wondering when people use the Rudder in Il-2??

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:26 AM
when slipping to loose alitude without loosing much speed is one reason

Message Edited on 09/25/0302:37AM by tenmmike

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:36 AM
Hmm truely vague...

You use it during flat turns, and banked turns. It's called a coordinated turn and is a standard flying practise. You use it to aim with instead of trying to line up perfectly.
Barrel rolls, hammerheads, and just about every other manuever uses it.
Of course also to taxi around the runway, and on landings, and take offs to keep her on the runway.

Spin recovery it's a must use situation.
Giving your tail gunner a shot in the Stuka, and Sturmovik.

Basically there's not really a time your not using it other than just flying straight and level.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:46 AM
As tenmike says, rudder should always be used in a turn with aileron. It's called a coordinated turn. You normally have a small instrument in the center or the panel called a turn and slip indicator. The ball of this should remain centered if you are cordinating the turn correctly.

You can use rudder on it's own to skid, which can throw off an opponents aim from your six. Also, use rudder to "sideslip" on the landing approach if you need to loose hight quickly. To do this you apply bank with ailerons and rudder in the opposite direction which will make the a/c slide down in the direction of the lower wing.

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:51 AM
inverted

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 11:50 AM
During take-off, landing approaches,

In an IL2 I kick it around when theres a 109 at 6 - it disturbs their aim and with trailing throttle slows you down till they either overshoot or stall out - unless they're good that is - in which case you're already dead

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:58 PM
Steep banking turns when you want to gain a little or lose a little altitude, and tight turns where you want to avoid stalling, and stall recovery as well. Aiming for runways targets etc. You should be using your rudder a lot really.