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CKBenge
01-01-2011, 04:11 PM
Flanders Air War

Is a 1 Week session 2 war that will be fought starting on

Tuesday Feburary 15 and the final session to be played on Saturday February 19.

Battles will take place on Tuesdays and Saturdays

Tuesday Sessions will begin at 8 pm EST and either with your death or at 10 pm EST

All Saturday Session will begin at 2 pm EST and End at 4 pm Est. Depending on your life in game.

When signing up tell what side you wish to fly and what pipeline you wish to fly...a squadron may sign up as a group, but have an HQ officer give the list of pilots who intend to fly.

This Battle will simulate conditions as they existed in September of 1917...

These are planes that have been built by members of SAS and they represent a cooperative effort on their part.


Allied

Fighters
Nieu- Scout early Vickers
Nieu-Scout Mid Vicker/Lewis
Nieu-Scout Late Twin Vickers
DeHev Nieuport 17
DeHev SE5 A
Sopwith Pup
Sopwith Tripe


B/R
Scout 1916
Mk1 (fr) Nieuport XII
Mk1 (gb) Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
Mk1a Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
DH-4

Germany 1
Fighter

Pfalz D III
Siemens D II
Siemens D V
Scout 4 Driedekker (Pfalz Dr1)
Fokker Driedekker
Fokker E IV

B/R
Scout 1916
Fokker/Rumpler C II
Aviatik (Pioneer)

revised 12/30/2010

If interested come to
http://raf209squadron.net/
click on the forums part and go to Flanders Air War...thread sign up and post....we will be having sign up until the Midnight CST Monday the 14th, 2011.

M_Gunz
01-01-2011, 07:22 PM
Not CFS3 engine with user-mods?

With the exceptions of the Gottingen thick wing GAS planes (Fokker Dr I and DVII), how sudden, sharp and unforgiving are the stalls?

Do the Nieups tend to lose fabric?

Feathered_IV
01-01-2011, 07:38 PM
So its a sort of mass Il-2 franken-war? It could prove exremely buggy if everyone has to try and source all those hacked planes willy nilly.

If I may ask, have you tried Rise of Flight instead? It's really come of age now and it's online play has all the features usually only seen in co ops.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/Feathered_IV/riseofflightV116b.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/Feathered_IV/2010_12_30__7_42_53.jpg

CKBenge
01-01-2011, 08:21 PM
Rise of Flight is not applicable for this type of campaign...mainly because it does not lend its self to historical type campaigns...it is strictly a dogfight game in a WW 1 dress.


YEs these are franken planes...they have been tested...and without the correct mission file you cannot fly in the server......

Feathered_IV
01-01-2011, 09:09 PM
Really? I just finished intercepting flights of O/400 bombers as they attacked the supply yards in St Mihael. The players who man the bomber turrets can be very dangerous.

Last night I flew a Camel and escorted some two-seaters as they called down artillery on a forward position. Later, I strafed an ammunition train and took four Coopers bombs to go hunting enemy vehicle columns at dusk.

CKBenge
01-02-2011, 06:40 AM
HPs and Gothas were not the work horse bombers of the Great War...

and until they make more two seaters...the Bruegeot and the DFW do not represent the whole of complement...thus take away from the overall immersion.

Escorting AI planes is not the same as flying a FE2b, a Roland CL II, or AW FK8 on a ground pounding mission or a reconnasaince flight. Those abilities RoF does not have. Those are the things that we put into this campaign

danjama
01-02-2011, 10:54 AM
I'm interested. Downloading the SAS_WW1 mod now. Hope it will install ok over JSGME.

Jaws2002
01-02-2011, 12:49 PM
A year ago, mybe. Right now ROF is a full solid game and is not much you can do to the Il-2 engine to come close. For ww1 aircombat, there's only one place worth the trouble. ROF.
It still has holes in the game and plane set, but it came a LONG, LONG way from when it was introduced. In the begining was just a basic beta, now is a full, solid, modern game and is nothing you can do in the IL-2 engine to come near it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/<FA>Jaws/ROF/2010_12_21__2_31_11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/<FA>Jaws/ROF/2010_12_8__3_5_37.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/<FA>Jaws/ROF/2010_10_31__5_13_29.jpg

MB_Avro_UK
01-02-2011, 01:17 PM
Feathered and Jaws. You are both so right. RoF is the new generation as will be SoW BoB.

Yes, RoF is in need of flyable two-seaters,but that will happen soon. IL2 evolved in the same way.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2010_10_18__16_25_19.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2010_10_5__12_43_53.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2010_10_26__15_57_23.jpg

danjama
01-02-2011, 01:21 PM
Ok i need some tips on installing this WW1 mod for il2.

I followed the install instructions, but when i look in my il2 main folder, it's in there as "SAS_WW1" rather than in the "jsgmemods" folder within the main.

So i moved it to the jsgmemods folder, now it appears in the mod switcher. But when i try to enable it, jsgme crashes.

I'm uninstalling now to an empty folder, to see exactly what is what.

JG52Uther
01-02-2011, 01:23 PM
RoF is pretty,but is in no way ready for an online war.

TX-Gunslinger
01-02-2011, 01:45 PM
It's a whole lot more than pretty.

What are your requirements for an Online War btw? Just curious - as I play one Il2 online war from time to time. Enough to know "what I don't know" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you feel this is too OT - maybe you could start a new thread.

S!

Gunny

Jaws2002
01-02-2011, 02:53 PM
On question.


Nieu- Scout early Vickers
Nieu-Scout Mid Vicker/Lewis
Nieu-Scout Late Twin Vickers

What are this? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

M_Gunz
01-02-2011, 04:08 PM
Possibly Nieuport 12's with different guns?

There are people who can't run ROF but can run IL2 and would welcome something better than RB3D and re-warmed CFS3.

thefruitbat
01-02-2011, 04:44 PM
I've got rise of flight, and i like it alot, but the net code for it is fubar, which makes it an offline game only for me, as i'm not interested in public dogfight servers.

basically, and this comes from one of the developers in answer to a question from me, if you want to host co-ops for even 10 people, you need at least a 10up connection. i can but dream of that.

we regularly fly with 20 odd people in co-ops in il2, and 10 on a super connection, not to mention having a beast of pc to run RoF in the first place hosting, makes it out of the reach of most people, to be an online game, for anything other than dogfight servers.

MB_Avro_UK
01-02-2011, 05:20 PM
But to me graphics are everything. All else will follow.

What knocked me out in 2001 was the il2 demo. Before that I had flown EAW amongst others.

RoF isn't a finished product but it will be soon.

CKBenge
01-02-2011, 05:42 PM
The Nieu port Scouts

The early two are N-16s
The Mid war is a N-17
and the Late is a N-24

THis is IL2 not CFS3 that is Over Flanders Field...which is again a much better single player immersion game over Rise of Flight...much more planes available unfortunately it is uses a crappy game engine for online play.

And for those of you who are passing judgment on what this is going to entail with out trying it maybe you should try it or just go elsewhere.

CKBenge
01-02-2011, 05:45 PM
As to your installer problem...
If you ran the self installer it should have gone right into your jgsmemods folder

and the skins folder should have auto installed into that paintschemes if you clicked on that file as well

MB_Avro_UK
01-02-2011, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by CKBenge:
The Nieu port Scouts

The early two are N-16s
The Mid war is a N-17
and the Late is a N-24

THis is IL2 not CFS3 that is Over Flanders Field...which is again a much better single player immersion game over Rise of Flight...much more planes available unfortunately it is uses a crappy game engine for online play.

And for those of you who are passing judgment on what this is going to entail with out trying it maybe you should try it or just go elsewhere.

No need for that attitude is there? We all have the same interest at heart.

CKBenge
01-02-2011, 06:02 PM
I should have said on the buggy part...

We have all the planes packaged into a single set to make sure that particular bug problem is taken care of.

CKBenge
01-02-2011, 06:48 PM
You are right, I apologize for the attitude.

M_Gunz
01-03-2011, 11:52 AM
What kind of G-limits do those biplane models have? Hope not stock 4.09 12-15 G!

CKBenge
01-03-2011, 02:02 PM
No, they break up like wooden planes...as to exact specifics you would need to talk to the modelers at SAS

CKBenge
01-03-2011, 02:04 PM
IF you can pull 12 g's at 95 mph you are a better pilot than I

Jaws2002
01-03-2011, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by CKBenge:
IF you can pull 12 g's at 95 mph you are a better pilot than I

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

That's one thing i like about ww1 planes, you play like it's in slow motion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Those Dh2 vs the Eindecker fights are a hoot and very addictive. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

M_Gunz
01-03-2011, 06:52 PM
Your squad flies or flew Red Baron? Do your IL2 models crack wings like RB2/RB3D? That being IIRC somewhere around 3Gs for at least a few of those. I lost my share of top wings playing Red Baron! I was very active in VonHelton's J5.

rfxcasey
01-03-2011, 07:40 PM
I could possible be down with some of this. It would have to be on Tuesday though as Saturday is strictly reserved for Ubizoo coops. ROF is pretty nice for sure but Fruitbat is right out the botched net code as well as the system requirements. ROF looks great for sure but for some reason (probably the limited campaigns) there seemed to be much more of a sense of being in a real war in the Dynamix version of Red Baron which was great back when.

CKBenge
01-03-2011, 07:47 PM
You know I never really tried to see what they cracked at...why not give them a try http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yes we flew RB3D up until this past December with the last War Forces.

CKBenge
01-03-2011, 07:52 PM
Well this first one will be a very short 2 day thing event...

If it goes well. I will look at doing more of them...i have several scenarios available including NIght Bombing and Night intercepting as well as Close ground support such as was used in the Battle of Arras on Vimy Ridge.

CKBenge
01-03-2011, 07:54 PM
If I can get it to work with the DCG I would like to do what Wings of War does have it run for a week 24 hrs a day. With All time situations. Day and Night missions

alexmihaidan22
03-04-2011, 03:38 PM
where can i find the add-on for WWI il-2?

M_Gunz
03-04-2011, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by CKBenge:
IF you can pull 12 g's at 95 mph you are a better pilot than I

SPAD XII, SE-5A, even Fokker DVa, and many others went 120+mph TAS on level alone. In a dive they went a good deal faster Gunga Din.

The point being that few of those planes could take more than about 3 G's.

Big question, will this mod run under the latest SAS Modact?

alexmihaidan22
03-05-2011, 10:27 AM
?

AndyJWest
03-05-2011, 01:14 PM
The WWI planes are mods, and we aren't allowed to provide help here: Google 'IL-2 SAS' and you should find them though.

CKBenge
03-05-2011, 08:29 PM
No support for mods on these forums, no links to downloads for mods.

Feathered_IV
03-06-2011, 06:30 PM
You know better than to post download links to mods here.

CKBenge
03-07-2011, 05:47 PM
Actually no I did not Feathered. But I do now

STENKA_69.GIAP
03-08-2011, 04:40 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:

basically, and this comes from one of the developers in answer to a question from me, if you want to host co-ops for even 10 people, you need at least a 10up connection. i can but dream of that.

we regularly fly with 20 odd people in co-ops in il2, and 10 on a super connection, not to mention having a beast of pc to run RoF in the first place hosting, makes it out of the reach of most people, to be an online game, for anything other than dogfight servers.

Actualy to run ROF with 16 players and plenty of ground objects takes 2 Mbs upspeed I've measured it.

69.GIAP is currently running our first online war in ROF. We bought a new beast PC ready for COD so we use a Hex core i7 on a 10Mbs up line.
We are also building a log parser to automate campaign results.

Getting back to the subject well done on getting WW1 running in IL2. Are these the planes from the project "Canvas Knights"? I was following it for a long time but nothing seemed available.

triad773
03-08-2011, 10:41 AM
'Canvas knights' was supposed to be a mod of IL-2, but for some reason who ever was in charge of that thought better of it and is now using a different game engine, with 3D models of WWI bi-planes, and it is going to be a payware thing.

The IL-2 biplanes, like other mods, will not enrich anyone except the player's experience and are free of charge as I understand it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif