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269GA-Veltro
04-30-2004, 03:05 AM
We'll have also japanese carriers? We need them to destroy Midway's runway..he he. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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269GA-Veltro
04-30-2004, 03:05 AM
We'll have also japanese carriers? We need them to destroy Midway's runway..he he. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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stansdds
04-30-2004, 04:30 AM
Uhhhh....we need them for target practice! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

zuiho
04-30-2004, 04:49 AM
If yuo shot down our Zero! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

owlwatcher
04-30-2004, 08:12 AM
I would like to see the
Kaga in the game.

WereSnowleopard
04-30-2004, 10:03 AM
Don't forget Shinano as it have one special weapon from three groups of AA defensive, It carry 12 x 28 barrel AAW rocket launchers. I wonder what it look like in picture or drawing of it.

Official designation: IJN Shinano class aircraft carrier
Common designation: Shinano
Type: Aircraft carrier
Manufacturer: Yokosuka Navy Yard
Production Dates: May 4, 1940 - Keel laid (planned as third Yamato class battleship)
Dec 12, 1940 - Construction of the Shinano halted
1942 - Plans altered, Shinano now planned as an aircraft carrier
Oct 8, 1944 - Shinano is launched
Nov 19, 1944 - Shinano is commissioned

Boilers: 12 Kanpon boilers
Turbines: Geared steam turbines
Horsepower: 153,000 s.h.p.
Shafts: 4
Range (Nautical Miles): 7,200 @ 16 knots
Maximum Speed: 27-28 knots
Crew: 2,400
Standard Displacement (tons): 59,900 ( kg) Full Load Displacement (tons): 73,040 ( kg)
Length (O/A): 840ft (256 m) Length (W/L): 810ft (247 m)
Beam: 119ft (36.3 m) Draft: 32.9ft (10 m)
Flight Deck Length: 872.9ft (266 m) Flight Deck Width: 131.3ft (40 m)
Hanger: 550ft long

Protection: Main Side Belt: Possible 5in belt
Deck Armour 2.8in - 4.0in
Flight Deck Armour 3.1in
Citadel Various important parts of the ship were protected by light armour

Armament: Main Battery: 16 x 5" (127mm)/40 cal Type 89 in eight twin mountings
Secondary Battery 12 x 4.7" 45 cal (120mm) 10 Nendo Shiki in twin mounts
Anti-Aircraft Weapons 145 x 60 cal (25 mm) MG
22 x 76 cal (13 mm) MG
12 x 28 barrel AAW rocket launchers

http://www.combinedfleet.com/shinan01.jpg


Regards
Snowleopard

Ruy Horta
04-30-2004, 10:32 AM
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhorta/TEMP/ijn_rocket_aa.jpg

From "Mechanism of Japanese Aircraft Carriers", a Maru Mechanic reprint by Kojinsha.

Enjoy!

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WereSnowleopard
04-30-2004, 10:55 AM
Oh Thank you Rhorta,

Next question, How fast reload? Maybe not do during battle? Maybe have answer in screenshot if someone able to transler Japanese texts in that screenshot which Rhorta posted it. Thnak you again.

mike_espo
04-30-2004, 03:57 PM
Japanese carriers are so cool. No island, or a very small one to conn the ship!

http://donkis.narod.ru/Carrier/ww2/soryu.gif

Soryu

ploughman
04-30-2004, 04:50 PM
I was wondering... The reason all carrier superstructure islands are on the right of the flight deck is because of torque on prop planes making the aircraft veer to the left during flight operations, ergo, they're less likely to hit something solid if it is to the right. But which Japanese carrier had it's superstructure on the left of the flight deck?

sugaki
04-30-2004, 05:10 PM
Hiryu and Akagi.

-Aki

ps- that scan's way too small to be able to translate.

ploughman
04-30-2004, 05:32 PM
Really, both of them? I only thought it was Akagi. Click on the link to see the end of things at Midway. The end of things (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g700000/g701869t.jpg)The End of All Things (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g700000/g701869t.jpg)

Snow_Wolf_
04-30-2004, 08:51 PM
http://hush.gooside.com/Text/5h/55Ho/hosyo.gif
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g350000/g351904.jpg
i hope they have the Hosho

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Dr_fuzz
04-30-2004, 10:30 PM
Funnily enough Ballard went looking for some of the Midway wrecks but he couldn't find the Hiryu, Soryu, Akagi or Kaga (I think he managed to find a single gun turrent) but he did find the Yorktown. She's still in fairly good shape as well.

Fuzz

IV_JG51_Razor
05-01-2004, 12:07 PM
Can anyone post a link to any information about IJN carrier operations? I don't mean battles fought, or anything like that. What I'd like to know about, is how the IJN conducted their carrier air operations. Did they use LSOs? Did they have barriers? How many cross deck pendants did they use? Etc, etc, etc.

I have never seen a picture of an IJN plane landing on one of their carriers, much less any movies of such. I wonder why that is? You see all kinds of pics and movies of them taking off, but never landing!

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Angelus897
05-01-2004, 11:07 PM
I hope someone models the Shinano. Even though she didn't get to see much action (sunk by US sub, Archerfish), she was the biggest aircraft carrier built prior to the 1950s.

Gronded4ever
05-02-2004, 02:33 AM
The nice thing about Japanese carriers is that all of them had the red sun painted on their decks(correct me if I wrong). A perfect target just calling to be boomed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

mike_espo
05-03-2004, 12:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gronded4ever:
The nice thing about Japanese carriers is that all of them had the red sun painted on their decks(correct me if I wrong). A perfect target just calling to be boomed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, wonder why they did that? It does make a great aiming point.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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sugaki
05-03-2004, 12:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gronded4ever:
The nice thing about Japanese carriers is that all of them had the red sun painted on their decks(correct me if I wrong). A perfect target just calling to be boomed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

All of them didn't, I believe it was reserved for the flagship, so Akagi and maybe one or two other carrier did, though I don't remember off the top of my head.

Later on they employed funky camoflage schemes in an attempt to deceive diver bomber bearings when making their run ...it didn't work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Zuikaku's a good example.

-Aki

BSS_Vidar
05-03-2004, 03:18 PM
You can fly over the Yorktowns wreck and see it from the air as long as the currents arn't moving too fast kicking up the bottom.

The Japanees had only one carrier with the island on the port side, but I forget wich one.

BSS_Vidar.

Ruy Horta
05-05-2004, 12:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BSS_Vidar:
The Japanees had only one carrier with the island on the port side, but I forget wich one.
BSS_Vidar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Both Akagi and Hiryu had port side bridge structures. This appears to be the Akagi.

Ruy Horta