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FE_pilot
06-19-2007, 09:59 PM
Since no new news about what is included in SOW:BOB. Here are the planes confirmed to modeled in the game.


1. BF-109E
2. Blenheim M.IV
3. BR-20M
4. Fiat G50
5. HE-111H2
6. Ju-87B2
7. JU-88A1
8. Spitfire Mk.1
9. Hurricane Mk.1
10. SU-26

I found some screenshots that i downloaded and these planes pictures were in there. So no these were not form any source just a link i found.

Good news is that most seemed at least half way modeled.


If anybody has any other news please post it. A community thread on what people already know would surely help out the people who want to know.

If you got any news on anything concerning SOW:BOB, do by shy to post it on here.

Any screen shots of planes or anything concerning the game would be nice.

Feathered_IV
06-19-2007, 11:34 PM
Meh! Where's me Storch? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

FritzGryphon
06-19-2007, 11:35 PM
Isn't there also a Bf-110 cockpit pic somewhere?

luftluuver
06-19-2007, 11:37 PM
Bf109E is rather vague. What version of E?

MrMojok
06-19-2007, 11:38 PM
Yes I was sure we had seen a Bf-110.

HuninMunin
06-19-2007, 11:44 PM
E-3.

polak5
06-20-2007, 12:08 AM
better news than no news. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

flakwagen
06-20-2007, 12:33 AM
So there are only two planes on the list that haven't already been modeled for IL2? I realize all are variants that haven't been covered in IL2, but this list doesn't set off my Impress-o-meter like I had hoped.

I suppose there's always the expansions and freebies in updates to look out for. And yes, I too demand the Storch. No Storch, no peace! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Flak

Makabi-
06-20-2007, 12:35 AM
according to this Photobucket account (http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/?start=0), the following planes have also been modelled for the sim:

Fiat CR.42
Wellington
Lysander
Ju-52 (land and sea based types)
Gladiator Mk.II
FW-200
Do-17
Do-215
He-59
He-115
Bf-108
Bf-110 C4
Beaufighter
Avro Anson
Avro C-30
Walrus
Defiant (regular and night fighter versions)

and I'm pretty sure there was talk a while ago about a two-seat trainer for each side, not sure what aircraft they were though.

Philipscdrw
06-20-2007, 01:42 AM
I thought there would be the Bf109-E1, E3, and E4. Wasn't there an Italian twin-engine bomber in the works?

There was a request for Tiger Moth photos a few months ago.

269GA-Veltro
06-20-2007, 01:46 AM
Bf-110 is confirmed as flyable. There are not pics about CR-42 cockpit as for Bf-109E4, neither for the cockpit nor for the model.

We'll see.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WOLFMondo
06-20-2007, 02:12 AM
No Spitfire mkII but a Defiant?! Can't wait to fly the Beaufighter though.

neural_dream
06-20-2007, 03:31 AM
This thread is only slightly more useful than my contribution in it.
And equally vague.

Capt.LoneRanger
06-20-2007, 03:39 AM
This one is from the latest official news, which is quite a while back, though.

http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/index.htm


Other than that, lets all hope Oleg really intends to post some news in July. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

JG53Frankyboy
06-20-2007, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
Bf-110 is confirmed as flyable. There are not pics about CR-42 cockpit as for Bf-109E4, neither for the cockpit nor for the model.

We'll see.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

??????????????
at least the external modell it is
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/CR-42_1.jpg

JG53Frankyboy
06-20-2007, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
I thought there would be the Bf109-E1, E3, and E4. Wasn't there an Italian twin-engine bomber in the works?

There was a request for Tiger Moth photos a few months ago.

the BR-20M is the italian bomber.
we have seen external and cockpit WIP pistures of it already http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

about what 109E version............. the cockpit is the first one (the more rounded).
but both, E-3 and E-4 had then during BoB.
it all depends on hwta canon will be modelled - the MG-FF or the more hitting MG-FF/M.

the development of the Bf110 cockpit was mentioned in a report at SimHQ when someone visited the Maddox office http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

major_setback
06-20-2007, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Makabi-:
according to this Photobucket account (http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/?start=0), the following planes have also been modelled for the sim:

.

That's not an official site, just some screenshots of WIP that I uploaded and some are very, very old, so might not be included in the new game. Hopefully we will get all, at least as AI though.
Remember that some of the screenshots were relesed for the E3 exhibition and then removed from the SimHQ site the very next day, so that might indicate that we might have seen some shots that won't be included; for ex. the autogiro thingy.

major_setback
06-20-2007, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
.... Wasn't there an Italian twin-engine bomber in the works?

.
Br20, as flyable I think.

269GA-Veltro
06-20-2007, 04:15 AM
@Franky, i know about the 3D model but i'm talking about cockpit. No pics about it, at least now...so i suppose CR-42 as AI, and it would be a bad thing considering that G-50 didn't engage enemy fighters during BoB, CR-42 did....

About E4.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

FritzGryphon
06-20-2007, 04:46 AM
Don't worry too much, Veltro. Given that the CR42 is flyable in IL-2, it probably will be in BoB too.

It's normally the lack of cockpit reference material that prevents flyable planes. If they got the reference, it'll be flyable.

Same reason there's a flyable Heinkel and Junkers, but no Donair.

leitmotiv
06-20-2007, 06:04 AM
I find the Dornier 17Z "no cockpit references" incomprehensible---just this year Classic Airframes released a 1:48 scale Do 17Z with a mega-detailed cockpit and bomb-bay. I have two books with excellent photographs of Do 17Z cockpits. Classic Airframes always uses documentary sources. Thus, there are references out there for the 17Z.

Capt.LoneRanger
06-20-2007, 06:10 AM
I never understood that, either. The Do 17Z was one of the most famous German bombers in WW2. And really, there is plenty of reference for this a/c.

JG4_Helofly
06-20-2007, 06:36 AM
I agree with Loneranger, the Do 17 was one of the most important german bomber at least in the bob. Ok it was a crappy plane, but produced and used in great numbers.

An other thing is the inexistance of the 109E4. Wasn't it the most used Emile during the BoB?

I realy hope that the Storm of war series will not be like Il2 in modeling plenty of prototype planes which never flew or only for experimental testing. Who needs them if we don't have the most common planes?

JG53Frankyboy
06-20-2007, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by JG4_Helofly:


An other thing is the inexistance of the 109E4. Wasn't it the most used Emile during the BoB?



to repeat:
NOTHING is confirmed about this so far.
the simple shape of the canopy doesnt say anything about the version that we will see- the more rounded (older canopy) could be seen on E-1,E-3 and E-4 versions in BoB , also the newer one .
the point of difference are the canons used in the E-3 and E-4 ........ and that cant be identified from outside.


actually nothing at all is confirmed so far about what equiptment status the main fighters (Hurries, Spits, 109s) in SoW:BoB will show.................

HuninMunin
06-20-2007, 06:58 AM
I remember that somewhen the word was dropped that
different ammunition beltings will be concidered and selectable by user.
So in the best case we will select the 109 E and select mineshells -> voila; E4.

269GA-Veltro
06-20-2007, 07:07 AM
E4 had also better pilot's protection if i'm not wrong....and we need it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

...damn Spit!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HuninMunin
06-20-2007, 07:21 AM
They partly had.
The updated canopy was used on both E-3s and E-4s.
Only the few E-1s remained with the glasshouse.
The E-3 beeing the most common variant in the overall BoB timeframe.

JG4_Helofly
06-20-2007, 07:47 AM
Even if we can choose the ammunition type we want it will not be possible to fire mine shells from an E3 because the mgFF in the E3 could not fire such projectiles. At least that's what I heard. There was a MG FF(M) if I remember correctly.

JG53Frankyboy
06-20-2007, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
E4 had also better pilot's protection if i'm not wrong....and we need it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

...damn Spit!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

in Prien's "History of the JG53" book are pictures of:
E-3 with and without headarmour plates-old an new canopies
E-4 with and without headarmour plates-old and new canopies
actually i doubt that the autor alwasy knew if there is shown a E-3 or E-4 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

even E-1 with new canopies are shown http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif - clear visible with only MG17 in the wings.

the MG-FF btw was not allowed to be loaded with Mineshells.......


actually, the most "logical" Emil for me would be one with headarmour and MG-FF/M - whatever canopy it will have..............


same as for me it would be logical to have the Spits and Hurries all with CSPs , armoured windshildes and 100octan fluel 12lb/sq.in. boost.

Divine-Wind
06-20-2007, 08:39 PM
Can't wait to tear up some poor suckers in the Su-26. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif Or atleast outmanuever them so badly they fall apart.

Feathered_IV
06-20-2007, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
I find the Dornier 17Z "no cockpit references" incomprehensible---just this year Classic Airframes released a 1:48 scale Do 17Z with a mega-detailed cockpit and bomb-bay. I have two books with excellent photographs of Do 17Z cockpits. Classic Airframes always uses documentary sources. Thus, there are references out there for the 17Z.

The Do-17z is not internally modelled because it is a limited in it's scope in future addons. After the BoB, it's use was brief. The 111 and 88 can be used with modifications for the life of the sim. Not so with the Z. A shame though, as it is a real looker.

crazyivan1970
06-20-2007, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by FE_pilot:
Since no new news about what is included in SOW:BOB. Here are the planes confirmed to modeled in the game.


Always enjoy a good speculation... confirmed by whom may i ask? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

EURO_Snoopy
06-20-2007, 09:45 PM
Storm Of War: The Battle of Britain:

Episode one (1st episode in the series of the new generation of the simulators):

RAF flyable Spitfire Mk.I, Hurricane Mk.I, Blenheim Mk.IV, Gladiator Mk.II (possible)

RAF Ai Defiant Mk.I, Beaufighter Mk.IF, Blenheim Mk.IF, Blenheim Mk.IVF.Blenheim Mk.I, Wellington Mk.IC, Lysander Mk.I, Anson Mk.I, Cierva C.30A/Avro Rota Mk.I (autogyro) & Sunderland Mk.I (possible)

LW flyable Bf-109 E3, Bf-110 C4, He-111 H-2, He-111 P-2, Ju-87 B-2, Ju-88 A-1

LW Ai Do-17 Z-1, Do-215 (recon.), FW-200 C-1, He-59, He-115, Ju-52 /3M, Bf-108. and Italian FIAT G.50, FIAT CR.42, FIAT BR.20M

This info originates from a Russian magazine called 'Gamer's World Navigator' Early 2006

leitmotiv
06-21-2007, 01:15 AM
Thanks for the clarification, ES. Glad to see the 110 is flyable.

JG52Uther
06-21-2007, 03:07 AM
A.I. FIAT BR.20M
EH? We have seen cockpit shots of the BR.20!

Also the Do17 was used throughout the war.It is a travesty if it is not made flyable at some stage of SOW.

EURO_Snoopy
06-21-2007, 07:42 AM
The imfo provided is as much as 18 months old, much can happen in that time. Even if the plane you want isn't in the release there will be more to follow.

ploughman
06-21-2007, 09:33 AM
Don't forget kids, Oleg's said he'll be releasing tools for 3 rd party maps planes and objects, that means that semi-slick modellers will have P-51s, Fw-190s, et al., available within a month, slick modellers will be sure to have us pay for them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

leitmotiv
06-21-2007, 10:12 AM
That's right so I'll be blasting the hell out of German light cruisers with my Skua!

ploughman
06-21-2007, 10:14 AM
Amen to that!

269GA-Veltro
06-21-2007, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by EURO_Snoopy:
The imfo provided is as much as 18 months old, much can happen in that time. Even if the plane you want isn't in the release there will be more to follow.

Exactly.

BTW, Oleg some weeks ago has said we'll have a BoB's update in july...so.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Crash_Moses
06-21-2007, 10:42 AM
Oh yes...dive bombing in the Skua...I'm all tingly...

Stew278
06-21-2007, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Don't forget kids, Oleg's said he'll be releasing tools for 3 rd party maps planes and objects, that means that semi-slick modellers will have P-51s, Fw-190s, et al., available within a month, slick modellers will be sure to have us pay for them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

The 3rd party stuff will just be for offline use though, right?

Capt.LoneRanger
06-21-2007, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Stew278:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
Don't forget kids, Oleg's said he'll be releasing tools for 3 rd party maps planes and objects, that means that semi-slick modellers will have P-51s, Fw-190s, et al., available within a month, slick modellers will be sure to have us pay for them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

The 3rd party stuff will just be for offline use though, right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, but if they are modelled correctly, there is a good chance they'll be made "official".

JG53Frankyboy
06-21-2007, 12:05 PM
as far is i understood
1. this 3.party stuff we be also be avaialble online , if the host/server allows it
2. its not sure that this 3.party tool will be come with the release of SoW:BoB , espacially the possibility to ad planes.

neural_dream
06-21-2007, 01:14 PM
Early wwii is so fantastic. In wwiionline I play air only first weeks of each campaign, when we, Allies, have Hawk75s, Dewoitines and hurriI-spitI-BlenheimI. Oh, they are so cool.

I hope this new game will allow for more diverse operations, e.g. involving the lysander or the storch, etc.

major_setback
06-21-2007, 01:15 PM
Oleg said the 3rd party tools (if they do materialize) will be released shortly after BoB.

Here's the interview where he made the statement:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/988...881088025#9881088025 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9881088025?r=9881088025#9881088025)

Agamemnon22
06-21-2007, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Don't forget kids, Oleg's said he'll be releasing tools for 3 rd party maps planes and objects, that means that semi-slick modellers will have P-51s, Fw-190s, et al., available within a month, slick modellers will be sure to have us pay for them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I don't know about a month there, BoB assets are going to be at least twice as time consuming as Il-2, but yes. We ought to figure out who's working on what, get the 3rd party gears turning now, so that when the tools appear we can finished modeling and ready to implement in-engine.

Kinda like when we had netwings..

neural_dream
06-21-2007, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by major_setback:
Oleg said the 3rd party tools (if they do materialize) will be released shortly after BoB.

Let me guess, mmm ... 2 weeks later.

LEXX_Luthor
06-21-2007, 08:30 PM
JG52Uther::
Also the Do17 was used throughout the war.It is a travesty if it is not made flyable at some stage of SOW.
Yep, and it played a role in Barbarossa. It should be made flyable -- because Do-17 is my fave WW2 bomber (always the best reasonhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif), and I'm not alone it seems....

Do-17 Fansite ~> http://web.wt.net/~kikuko/Do17depot/Do17index.htm (http://web.wt.net/%7Ekikuko/Do17depot/Do17index.htm)


I'd hope a Do-17 cockpit would be among the first 3rd Party items. Could 3rd Party cockpits be used in the Moscow Bureau's AI aircraft? If not, a new 3rd Party Do-17 model would need creation.