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x_matafix_x
01-02-2007, 02:42 PM
This is my first post, so it might be litle stupid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif In game we can use free running or parkour to run up buildings and do cool tricks, in all prince of peria we can do backflip/wallflip and it will be cool if Avatar can do tricks like that or other acrobatics, so whot you guys think?

And meaby you know some other games with Parkour?<form action="http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums" method="POST" name="VOTE">

entropy777
01-02-2007, 03:05 PM
<span class="ev_code_grey">Free running and Le Parkour are two different things, and the main character of Assassin's Creed is named Altair, not Avatar.</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

The enthusiasm of a woman's love is even beyond the biographer's. -Jane Austen, Mansfield Park.

x_matafix_x
01-02-2007, 03:22 PM
oh ye, sorry I forget it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


but can you tell me whot is differend between parkour and free running?

entropy777
01-02-2007, 07:04 PM
<span class="ev_code_GREY">Parkour is efficiency, get from point A to point B the quickest most efficient way.

Free running is showing off, get from point A to point B and style as much as possible, doing backflips and things like that.</span><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

The enthusiasm of a woman's love is even beyond the biographer's. -Jane Austen, Mansfield Park.

DimDagger
01-03-2007, 02:51 AM
Altair does use a form of Parkour, but he doesn't use freerunning techniques... I don't think they would fit either.

x_matafix_x
01-03-2007, 07:21 AM
Definitions of Le Parkour on the Web:

* Parkour (also called Le Parkour, PK, or free running) is a sport in which participants attempt to clear all obstacles in their path in the most fluid manner possible.


I found that in google definations. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

it's cool- write in google search define: and then what you want define example:

define: le parkour

Drunkspleen
01-03-2007, 08:05 AM
Unfortunately google is hardly the be all and end all of small subcultures that exist within our society.

Most practitioners of parkour define it as being seperate to free running and would be offended by the comparison.

According to allmost anyone who practices parkour entropy is correct and I tend to agree.

If it's quotes you demand though then wikipedia offers a contrasting opinion to yours.


According to founder David Belle, the spirit of parkour is guided in part by the notions of "escape" and "reach", that is, the idea of using physical agility and quick thinking to get out of difficult situations, and to be able to go anywhere that one desires. Free running, a closely related art emphasizing aesthetics, is most concerned with fluidity and beauty.

RetiredHatch
01-03-2007, 03:31 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if you could pull off free running techniques either then if you want let the person controlling Altair do what they want if they want the free-running style go ahead if they want speed and quickness over prettiness they can do that too might be fun to do backflips over guards heads instead of just regularly jumping...

that is if i'm getting the differences right... if i'm absolutely wrong about what you're talking about then disregard this post yep

Drunkspleen
01-03-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
I wouldn't be surprised if you could pull off free running techniques either then if you want let the person controlling Altair do what they want if they want the free-running style go ahead if they want speed and quickness over prettiness they can do that too might be fun to do backflips over guards heads instead of just regularly jumping...

that is if i'm getting the differences right... if i'm absolutely wrong about what you're talking about then disregard this post yep

Yeah you are probably right, I would imagine alot of free running style would get into the game so that people can watch all his movements and go WoW at some of the neat tricks he does.

The thread got a bit derailed onto defining parkour and free running http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

I think one thing that has really caught my attention is the attention to detail on cloth and I think free running flips would be a good way to show off some of the flowing animations in this area.

TraceurX
01-04-2007, 02:25 PM
Its funny, but I think that parkour movement actually looks better than freerunning. I would much rather watch someone getting over something quickly and efficiently, with the by product, flow, than watch someone do backflips. If implemented well, then a flip or two could be interesting, but not to the extent of Prince of Persia. Why would an Assassin do a flip when in almost all scenarios a normal jump would perfectly suffice?

Flips aren't that cool...

Parkour is the discipline of being strong in order to be useful, freerunning is an art form.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

When a man fights for his heart, he cares not about the size of his opponent. If he is in love, he will find a way.

RetiredHatch
01-04-2007, 02:32 PM
watching someone do backflips on the ground? or watching someone do backflips while they're getting over obstacles and still in the 'flow' you were talking about? it'ss pretty neat looking rather than watching someone jump and grab a wall maybe watch someone do a backflip and grab the same wall it's pretty cool lookin' i don' know that's my opinion and everybody is entitled to their opinion

TraceurX
01-06-2007, 02:18 AM
quote from me: "Its funny, but I think"

I didn't say that my opinion is correct, I said that's what I think. If you see the really top level traceurs, such as David Belle and Stephane Vigroux, you may understand what I mean.

In District 13, there are two big old chase scenes where David Belle is legging it away from the bad guys. He doesn't do a single flip or un necessary movement, and it looks frikkin amazing. The begining chase in the new james Bond, Casino Royale, there are no flips, but it looks awesome. The fact that movie makers dont use flips much when portraying parkour on the big screen personally says to me that not putting them in looks better, in this situation. If there was a flip in there, it would look pointless and out of place, unless done VERY well and perfectly flowing, which is stupidly difficult.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

When a man fights for his heart, he cares not about the size of his opponent. If he is in love, he will find a way.

Drunkspleen
01-06-2007, 03:25 AM
Parkour is the discipline of being strong in order to be useful, freerunning is an art form.

I'm not really looking for an argument, but I think Parkour is as much a discipline as an art form.

It's rooted in the ideas of expressing freedom and reach. And as you have said, just watching someone flow in any direction they want with nothing excessive and nothing slowing them down looks quite amazing.

x_matafix_x
01-06-2007, 04:59 AM
now I'm 100% assured that parkour and free running is not same http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

deadly2792
01-06-2007, 02:39 PM
the game was made as realistic as possible. Seeing someone jump over a small wall is real but seeing them do a backflip over a small wall..... thats just weird and from my point of view not realistic at all

TraceurX
01-06-2007, 04:39 PM
O.k. Im not arguing, cos its true that very few people really understand parkour in this way, and only by spending ALOT of time researching on the internet have I found out alot of this.

The discipline of parkour came from a man called George Hebert who was a fitness instructor in the French Army. On a tour of duty, he met some aboriginees. These guys had amazingly strong bodies, could run incredibly fast and were as agile as anything. He realised that if they could get their bodies this beautiful and powerful simply by running, jumping, climbing, swimming e.t.c, then it would work for the army too.

He spent some time developing the methode naturelle. It was based around the idea of an obstacle course. The things you did in the methode naturelle included these, among others (not a direct qupte, but close enough): "Running, climbing, jumping, swimming, throwing, moving silently, moving on all fours." He believed that simply by doing these excercises he could turn his men into monkey like machines. For the most part, it worked. His idea was to make them strong, so they could be useful, as they were in the army, and the overall point was for them to be as useful as possible to the army.

After a while, Raymond Belle, David Belle's father, picked up on the idea, being in the French army himself, and started training himself in it too. He called the way of movement encouraged by the movements "parcour", after parcour d'obstacle, meaning obstacle course. (the k was later put in to make it look cooler, and differentiate it from the regular word parcour.)

He used it in the fire service as well, and was known as a fearless, brave man, always trying to help people. He then brought his child, David, up to embrace this way of life. Others in France began to do it, and from this it spread. Although David also does gymnastics, his main aim is always to be as strong as possible so that he can help his loved ones when they need him, or if anyone else needs to be saved. Traceurs more or less strive to be heroes, capable of reacting quickly and efficiently in the face of an emergency situation.

So it's not really an art form, but a discipline. Kay?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

When a man fights for his heart, he cares not about the size of his opponent. If he is in love, he will find a way.

deadly2792
01-06-2007, 05:16 PM
ok i agree with you and i just saw a video about david belle w/e but still i think it is corney and the oldest thing to see some1 do amazing backflips and stuff over huge things in a video game. a simple jump or vault would be more realistc and more original

Num3n
01-06-2007, 10:24 PM
TraceurX obviously by ur name u practice pk.. well anyways some specific bits were left out of ur summary of the history of parkour.. (the army dude really just had a basic idea of moving past obstacles) David Belle on the other hand really didnt learn parkour from anyone. He joined gymnastics at a young age and played around with friends jumping off of stuff and over buildings etc. then he kept doing that sort of stuff and it became parkour.. so the invention rightfully belongs to him..

anywayyyyyys yes i hope Altair can do parkour not free running, and i hope he can do a wide range of things..