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Col_Tibbetts
01-31-2005, 04:00 PM
I know this is WAY off topic for a WWII sim but do you guys remember SAR mode in Janes F15?

I was reading an interesting article on SAR on the PBS NOVA website and it dawned on me that EA had a sim with this ability in the late '90s!

Synthetic Aperature Radar is using radio waves to take a picture of the terrain. Instead of light bouncing back to the "camera", SAR uses the reflected radio data to create an image. Very useful when approacing a target and programming a standoff weapon!

Remember the level of detail it was modelled to in Janes F15. It worked just like the real thing. It even produced a poorer image as your altitude decreased. This is because the angle at which the radio waves reflect back effects the image.

It is so sad that sims were better in the '90s than they are today. The level of detail was so much more. Oleg is the last of a dying breed with all the dev talent in the West going to the shooter console madness. Russia will see the attack of the consoles for sure. Just wait. Ubisoft is even undermining Olegs best intentions as seen in the PF unfinished mess. Limiting him to two CDs as well as rushed release dates never would have happened back then. OK maybe the rushed release dates are a given but you know what I mean.

If they only gave him the resources they would have given in the '90s. We will look back on those days as the golden age of fight sims.

Anyway here is the link for the PBS NOVA website. Very intetesting stuff. SAR is just too cool.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/spiesfly/radar.html

Col_Tibbetts
01-31-2005, 04:00 PM
I know this is WAY off topic for a WWII sim but do you guys remember SAR mode in Janes F15?

I was reading an interesting article on SAR on the PBS NOVA website and it dawned on me that EA had a sim with this ability in the late '90s!

Synthetic Aperature Radar is using radio waves to take a picture of the terrain. Instead of light bouncing back to the "camera", SAR uses the reflected radio data to create an image. Very useful when approacing a target and programming a standoff weapon!

Remember the level of detail it was modelled to in Janes F15. It worked just like the real thing. It even produced a poorer image as your altitude decreased. This is because the angle at which the radio waves reflect back effects the image.

It is so sad that sims were better in the '90s than they are today. The level of detail was so much more. Oleg is the last of a dying breed with all the dev talent in the West going to the shooter console madness. Russia will see the attack of the consoles for sure. Just wait. Ubisoft is even undermining Olegs best intentions as seen in the PF unfinished mess. Limiting him to two CDs as well as rushed release dates never would have happened back then. OK maybe the rushed release dates are a given but you know what I mean.

If they only gave him the resources they would have given in the '90s. We will look back on those days as the golden age of fight sims.

Anyway here is the link for the PBS NOVA website. Very intetesting stuff. SAR is just too cool.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/spiesfly/radar.html

Lucius_Esox
01-31-2005, 04:50 PM
Yes I do remember the sar in F15. I also remember the immersiveness of the single player campaign "Taking off from Bahrain Airport" ahh, those were the days. I honestly hope your comments about consoles etc is not right. Bummer big time when cash becomes the prime motivator, thats why I think Oleg is a star!

horseback
01-31-2005, 05:29 PM
It didn't have to be synthetic to do that.

A number of the OSs (Operations Specialists-the guys that look at radar scopes in the Navy) on my ship (back in the seventies)were able to ID ships by class from their radar profile on the AN/SPS-10 surface search radar with the old SPA-25 analog display; if the pulse is short enough, and the radar's receiver is tightly tuned, the reflections you see on the screen look quite a bit like a greenish negative of a photo. Parts of the return are stronger than parts that are rounded or 'shadowed.'

One of the techs I had working for me was a real wizard with the 10 radar, and tuned the ten to a gnat's @ss. We had one OS claiming he could get an oar count on the outrigger canoes that sometimes raced off Oahu's south coast.

I lost five bucks betting against that one...he was right on four out of five canoes that afternoon.

cheers

horseback

sunflower1
02-01-2005, 08:45 AM
Hunter and Joe spend their time with Call of Duty, they say.