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TheGozr
12-22-2004, 07:47 PM
Do you think it is a success or it is more due to the weworked engine?( details, cockpits etc..)

Slammin_
12-22-2004, 08:28 PM
I like it.

Die_Hard1
12-22-2004, 09:35 PM
No, the details are just fine. Could add more maps....

mllaneza
12-22-2004, 11:03 PM
Should have shipped with a lot more single-player missions. It's absurd that there isn't a carrier ops practice mission for every carrier aircraft in the game. Some things desperately need to be tweaked (hard) but won't be; all the dev time possible is going into BoB.

That aside, it's a very nice maps n' planes expanion to FB. What tweaks they did make are nice (muzzle flashes) and the "new exe" shows great promise. The only real gripes fall into the "more of a good thing" category.

AFJ_Locust
12-22-2004, 11:46 PM
If they release BoB in the shape they released PF well i might not buy that.

woofiedog
12-23-2004, 12:13 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gifI give PF an Exceeds!
It has a few bugs... but all the games have a few.
The small details Oleg & Team have added to the Game are Fantistic.
Folding Wings
Slideing Canopy's
Other Aircraft Features
The New Explosion Graphic's
The New Ship's and Landing Craft
Water and Terrain Features
Beautiful Cockpits of the New Aircraft
The New Maps!
And the New Vehicals
Etc etc!
How many other Games offer as much?

Gibbage1
12-23-2004, 02:01 AM
I think PF was rushed out, but not by Oleg. But I have faith that Oleg will complete it. As it stands, without a patch, I think it kinda sucks. It feels very "incomplete" to me.

Gib

Fresshness
12-23-2004, 03:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
I think PF was rushed out, but not by Oleg. But I have faith that Oleg will complete it. As it stands, without a patch, I think it kinda sucks. It feels very "incomplete" to me.

Gib <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cmon? Not by Oleg, maybe he wasn't the active advocate for releasing it early, but in any case, he agreed and allowed it (clearly).

So don't let him off the hook that easily. he is 100% as much responsible for it as the next (UBI-) man

RocketDog
12-23-2004, 03:20 AM
It's actually pretty good. Woofie lists some of the great things about it that really advance the series over FB/AEP. But unlike FB/AEP, it also had some rather big holes in it when it was released. The lack of single player missions and one or two unfinished details were unexpected disappointments (e.g., F4F and Zero high-speed characteristics, Hellcat windows etc). But overall, the balance sheet is overwhelmingly positive and I spend a lot of time with the game.

Regards,

RocketDog.

John_Stag
12-23-2004, 05:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Pacific Fighter a success? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How much time do you spend playing it?

ElAurens
12-23-2004, 06:14 AM
The important question is not wether we, who are the junkies of the gaming world, like it, but rather, is it a commercial success?

Only UBI can tell us that.

John_Stag
12-23-2004, 06:25 AM
Good point; asking that question here is like asking someone if they like dogs at Crufts.

What the hell is a shinizzle?

F19_Orheim
12-23-2004, 06:32 AM
I never play offline so I am pretty happy. However I don't consider it as anything else than an Add-on.

Bearcat99
12-23-2004, 06:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
I think PF was rushed out, but not by Oleg. But I have faith that Oleg will complete it. As it stands, without a patch, I think it kinda sucks. It feels very "incomplete" to me.

Gib <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder if the pressure had not been on due to the whole piracy/community going ballistic thing PF would have taken a bit longer but been mre complete. I think it is great. The only thing that I dont like is that there is no Avenger and no Betty. It has minor flaws but when I think about it I always take into consideration that this is a what, five year old engine? One that was originally started out to be for an IL2 only? Pretty good metamorphosis if you ask me. If BoB were released in this state I would not be pleased..... but I look at PF more as a paid add on than a new product. One that had to have the code reworked to allow landings on moveable objects..... no small task. The fact that even though some of the FMs amy not be "historically" accurate according to some (I cant speak on it because I dont know enough) in no way takes away from the absolutey amazing fact that each plane in the series has a slightly different FM..... thats a lot of FMs.....

When I go to Microcenter and I look at all the different paid add ons for CFS....CFS1, 2 and 3 and the cost of each one...and the fact that all of them put together IMO (I must admit I never tried Firepower so I dont know about it.) dont hold a candle to the overall product that is FB 3.02b I can live with the deficiencies in FB 3.02b.


but thats me.....

ElAurens
12-23-2004, 06:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
What the hell is a shinizzle? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ask CrazyIvan, he put it there.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Perhaps "the coolest" is a good translation.

FAW-SPIT
12-23-2004, 06:55 AM
Hi all

think PF is or will be a success..
I know its not complete, we miss things and some problems are always on.

But except the "never satisfied group" i think many of user/player are happy of PF.

We only hope the same support we have had since IL2 by 1C/Maddox..

Seem the weather is bad actually under the simulation sky.. Must wait and be confident.

For those that don't enjoy.. tell me what alternative we have to PF? CFS? BoB of Rowan?
Anf if someone ca make better work. we will please to see.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

And merry chrismas to all..

blackTIE
12-23-2004, 06:58 AM
So true, so true.

I paid like 29 dollars (or was is 19 dollars?)for a Pearl Harbor P-40's for CFS2. And that was an online download. That's right, just the P-40 and a few missions...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
When I go to Microcenter and I look at all the different paid add ons for CFS....CFS1, 2 and 3 and the cost of each one...and the fact that all of them put together IMO (I must admit I never tried Firepower so I dont know about it.) dont hold a candle to the overall product that is FB 3.02b I can live with the deficiencies in FB 3.02b.


but thats me..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

carguy_
12-23-2004, 06:59 AM
As an addon a big success,as a standalone game a letdown when compared to FB/AEP.

woofiedog
12-23-2004, 07:09 AM
I have to add to my last post and say that Oleg and Team have listen to "US" and made changes to make this Game Great.
Not many of the other Game Devolpers have given their Gamer's such a Option.
We are fortuned to have someone listen and act on our request.
Yes... better Mission Building, such as triggers... better performance on some aircraft... etc etc.
But we have a voice in the Game itself. That is something very rare... being offered from any Corp or Company and we have it here from UBI/1C/Oleg.

DuxCorvan
12-23-2004, 07:17 AM
Must be a success since all of us want more of the same... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ElAurens
12-23-2004, 07:43 AM
Good point Dux.

I will say for my part that I would give up all the as yet to be released, and wet dream aircraft, just to get some stable game code. Still far too many crashes and oddball errors for my liking.

JHAT-
12-23-2004, 07:51 AM
At a local computer shop, there were lots of Il2 copies some years ago, there one left... FB had many too, none left. PF had many, none left... There are also online shops (apparently, everyone here that really likes it buys it form online shops (in Brazil) ) and it seems they are selling it pretty well.

ddsflyer
12-23-2004, 10:13 AM
It will be a success if and only when we receive all that we paid for, i.e., flyable planes, maps and NO BUGS. Until it will be what it is now, a beta product.

Snoop_Baron
12-23-2004, 10:21 AM
I like it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It was listed it as the 10th best selling game in a local CompUSA so I think it might be doing quite well, but only UBI and Oleg know for sure.

TheGozr
12-23-2004, 04:48 PM
ddsflyer i'm shure You are using a beta windows than... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Gibbage1
12-23-2004, 10:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snoop_Baron:
I like it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It was listed it as the 10th best selling game in a local CompUSA so I think it might be doing quite well, but only UBI and Oleg know for sure. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats good news. I hope it does sell well! That means Oleg gets money, and we get free add-ons!

As for my comment about it being rushed, I think Ubi forced Oleg's hand in releasing it. IL2 was released for the holidays and it sold well. FB and Aces were both released AFTER the holidays and they both tanked. The Ubi number chunchers must of seen that trend and put a lot of pressure on Oleg to release.

Again, this is only my asumption and not based on nothing more then my own wandering thoughts.

LEXX_Luthor
12-23-2004, 10:58 PM
Wonder if anybody here can tell how well PF is selling at the Best Bear stores. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Feathered_IV
12-23-2004, 11:41 PM
Big success at my place http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif.

ddsflyer
12-24-2004, 09:06 AM
Gozr, you die hard fans view the world through rose colored glasses. Be objective. Everyone knows this was a rushed release and not finished. That makes it a beta in anybody's book. That is not what I paid for. I prefer to pay for a finished product.

TheGozr
12-24-2004, 12:22 PM
dds give me a name of a finish product with no bugs.

ArielSharon1978
12-24-2004, 02:22 PM
I am still looking forward to flying in a 50 pilot packed server that offers a mind-numbing Midway map.

If we could only squeeze 100 players in a server u could have the most awsome Midway battle.

LEXX_Luthor
12-24-2004, 06:30 PM
Gozer:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>give me a name of a finish product with no bugs. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
None with "no" bugs, but some very good games were made that were almost bugfree and install flawlessly. One example was Forgotten Battles.

Very few bugs, but the first pre~Patch FMs were often way out of touch. It had I~16 that simply did not accumulate damage, and it outclimbed Bf~109K4 -- but then the Bf~109E outclimbed K4 too (LuftWhiners didn't post about that though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ). Fortunately, Oleg caught all of these both with and without our postings. If PF has the same Developer as FB, we should see the same Goodness happen with PF.

In fact as I~16 is my 2nd Fave WW2 airplane OF ALL TIME, I was saddened by the fact that I could NOT use it in any FB 1.0 missions as it totally Dominated all planes even into 1944 in both FM and DM. Now, I can use it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif even for/against Ki~43 and A6M2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif