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blazer-glory
07-31-2005, 10:09 AM
Ive heard of RAF pilots having to leave the sevice through air sickness. Is this something that can be overcome or you either suffer from it or don't? I know Im easily disorientated and would not last 5 secs in a fighter.

Taylortony
07-31-2005, 10:15 AM
We had a jag pilot who during his training used to throw up when he looked over his shoulder, filled the oxymask which meant taking it off scooping it out then putting it back on cringe....... He was diagnosed as having an ear inmbalance or something like that, they sent him to RAE Farnborough and put him in a centrifuge for a few days making him look over his shoulder all the time till he was no longer sick and cured....... sort of a thing that you wouldn't look forward to going back to after lunch lol...

blazer-glory
07-31-2005, 10:22 AM
LOL Thanks for that. Although I should'nt laugh, I get dizzy just turning a corner! :s

I remember as a kid I was on a swing,leaning way back with my head tilted even further. I did that for a while and after getting off I could'nt even stand up. The strange thing was this lasted for hours. I remember lying down not being able to lift my head up overwise the whole room seemed to tip and turn. Not nice. Guess I'd be the RAF's finest foot soldier! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MEGILE
07-31-2005, 10:50 AM
I've read of WW2 pilots going from being sick just looking at a plane, to enjoying spins and stalls in a few months.
I guess its somethig you have to force yourself to do. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

WWSensei
07-31-2005, 10:52 AM
For USAF if it's chronic or debilitating it can wash you out. Doesn't mean you can't toss your cookies once in awhile. ;-) I've actually puked upside down...it wasn't a pleasent experience...

blazer-glory
07-31-2005, 12:38 PM
Hope you was'nt wearing your best trousers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MEGILE
07-31-2005, 12:49 PM
My first time at the controls of an airplane I was sick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

The instructor asked me to follow a rail way line towards the town.. something about looking down at the ground and banking at the same time.. my stomach went *grrrggle
I tried to chew it back, but with no luck. Thankfully there was a little plastic bag on hand http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Was too sick to help land.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

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HelSqnProtos
07-31-2005, 01:19 PM
S~!

Great post, love hearing real life stories. Lately we have gone from simulation to slightly less than that.

Jungmann
07-31-2005, 01:38 PM
IIRC, Chuck Yeager was sick the first time he flew. He was a mechanic then; some officer took him up in a T-6 or something. He turned out okay.

"The first time I saw an airplane, I barfed in it"--Chuck Yeager

Cheers,

triggerhappyfin
07-31-2005, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Taylortony:
We had a jag pilot who during his training used to throw up when he looked over his shoulder, filled the oxymask which meant taking it off scooping it out then putting it back on cringe....... He was diagnosed as having an ear inmbalance or something like that, they sent him to RAE Farnborough and put him in a centrifuge for a few days making him look over his shoulder all the time till he was no longer sick and cured....... sort of a thing that you wouldn't look forward to going back to after lunch lol...

LMAO..With medics like that I´d rather be airsick. That story reminds me of a film I saw once. There was a WW1 shellshocked soldier Who would´nt talk. The medical officer thought electric shocs to the poor sod´s tongue should indeed help him out. The poor soldier were to stand in attention in front of the officer made his effort to "cure" him. BZZZZZT, the soldier cramped and chew his tongue, foaming around his mouth and groaning loud. BZZZT, the same all over with louder groaning..BBZZZZZZT!! More Groaning ,foaming and his eyeballs allmost left their cavities.
Taken by the looks of the suffering soldier the Officer cleared his throat and prepaired for an other go, when suddenly the shelshocked soldier bursted out ; Y-Y-YOU BASTARD, ONE MORE TIME AND I´LL KILL YOU!!!

Cured! the Officer said and sent him back to his unit!

T_O_A_D
07-31-2005, 01:53 PM
I nearly had to puke in the AT-6 I flew in awhile back.

I took out the bag but managed to get control before needing it.

The pilot said there is no shame in Puking aslong as its in the bag http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MEGILE
07-31-2005, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
I nearly had to puke in the AT-6 I flew in awhile back.

I took out the bag but managed to get control before needing it.

The pilot said there is no shame in Puking aslong as its in the bag http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Definatly... pilots have all seen it before.
Just ask for the bag as soon as you feel a twinge.

han freak solo
07-31-2005, 03:00 PM
It's the slow but consistant moving that will get me near puking. A hot summer day in a low flying aircraft does it to me just as well as sitting in a boat rolling in the swells at 95 degrees F.

The more violent the moving is, and I'm okay. In fact it's downright fun!

A few years ago I was reading one of those aircraft journal type of magazines. It had a short story about a B-29 navigator in the PTO that would stay airsick on every flight. I sure wouldn't want to endure 8+ hours of airsickness like that poor navigator. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

huggy87
07-31-2005, 03:05 PM
I would some most folks get it occasionally, some get it often, and others can never get rid of it. Training and experience does help. I am a hornet pilot with about 1500 hours. I puked a couple of times as a student. I haven't puked in years. Although, now I am an instructor which means I often am in the backseat, and have had to pull out a barfbag on occasion. Just like in a car, if your not the one driving, your visual cues don't match what your inner ear is telling you, hence the nausea. If a student is rough, and I look down to take notes while he rolls, that'll nearly get me. I have tips for you to overcome avoid airsickness if you'd like them.

han freak solo
07-31-2005, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
I have tips for you to overcome avoid airsickness if you'd like them.

You're teasing us aint ya? Give us some inside advice, Huggy!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

MEGILE
07-31-2005, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
I have tips for you to overcome avoid airsickness if you'd like them.

Plz.. its pretty embarrasing getting sick in a Piper Cherokee http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

My Dad was in the back, and even looking through the video camera.. didnt have even a hint of air sickness. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

han freak solo
08-01-2005, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by huggy87:
I have tips for you to overcome avoid airsickness if you'd like them.

You're teasing us aint ya? Give us some inside advice, Huggy!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bump for Huggy.

x__CRASH__x
08-01-2005, 07:43 PM
The first time I used Track IR I threw up. Covered my new, yet unnammed, kitten. Poor guy.

We named him splatter! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I sued NaturalPoint for damages. Got $697,000 in an out of court settlement.

fabianfred
08-01-2005, 07:44 PM
don't know about airsick... but try sitting in the Rufe before take-off in a choppy sea... quite funny

han freak solo
08-01-2005, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
The first time I used Track IR I threw up. Covered my new, yet unnammed, kitten. Poor guy.

We named him splatter! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Splatter!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Oh wait, that's this guy's name-to-be....

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Freefalldart
08-02-2005, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
The first time I used Track IR I threw up. Covered my new, yet unnammed, kitten. Poor guy.

We named him splatter! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I sued NaturalPoint for damages. Got $697,000 in an out of court settlement.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

rnzoli
08-02-2005, 08:37 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
The first time I used Track IR I threw up./QUOTE]
Almost the same happened to me with Freelook. For the first 2 times. I thought I would never get used to it.

I also heard that sailplane pilots going on long-distance flights (2 pilots) have to swap control of the plane every 30 minutes or so, otherwise the non-flying pilot will throw up, no matter what. I guess this is because of the particularly turbulent nature of soaring.

blazer-glory
08-02-2005, 12:23 PM
Guess you gotta fell for the poor navigators though. They have to sit staring over maps while they are moving in all directions.

blakduk
08-02-2005, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by blazer-glory:
LOL Thanks for that. Although I should'nt laugh, I get dizzy just turning a corner! :s

I remember as a kid I was on a swing,leaning way back with my head tilted even further. I did that for a while and after getting off I could'nt even stand up. The strange thing was this lasted for hours. I remember lying down not being able to lift my head up overwise the whole room seemed to tip and turn. Not nice. Guess I'd be the RAF's finest foot soldier! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hey Blazer, have you ever had yourself checked out for an inner-ear problem? The symptoms you described seem pretty extreme.
While its usual to get a sense of vertigo immediately after stopping moving the length of time its lasting for you seems extreme.

The maneuvoure that usually gets me is zero-G- if i'm involved in an extended dive (more than 3-4 seconds) that puts me in a zero-G incline i get pretty nauseous. If the G is positive or negative i'm okay.
The freakiest sensation is being inverted at night and doing an inverted loop- not recommended!

huggy87
08-02-2005, 08:27 PM
It's a myth not to have anything on your stomach. Definitely eat a light meal before you go. Preferably something bland like bananas or toast. Drinking the night before, acidic foods like pizza, etc. will do you in.

Try to minimize rapid head movements. Of course, you have to scan the sky and your insruments, but you don't need to move your head too much. Don't look down, especially during rolling movents or any kind of loaded roll.

I doubt a cherokee has A/C (?), but I would open a window or vent to blow directly on your face.

If you feel sickness coming on, try to pick a point on the horizon and focus on that. Or better yet, just take the controls and you'll probably feel better shortly.

Good luck.

Atomic_Marten
08-02-2005, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
The first time I used Track IR I threw up. Covered my new, yet unnammed, kitten. Poor guy.

We named him splatter! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I sued NaturalPoint for damages. Got $697,000 in an out of court settlement.

http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj/smileys/puke_1.gif http://free-vk.t-com.hr/domagoj/smileys/cat_1.gif lmao

blazer-glory
08-03-2005, 02:01 PM
Thanks for the concern blakduk. It was alooong time ago and Ive never had any reason since to go to the doctors and get it checked out. I try to keep away from things that go up and down and round and round as Im a complete coward!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I guessing your're a real pilot or you live in a real windy area. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

han freak solo
08-03-2005, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
Good luck.

Thanks, Huggy.

blazer-glory
08-03-2005, 03:47 PM
Yeah,thanks. I'll try those out next time I load up FB. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif