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mariuszj1939
05-10-2006, 04:52 AM
below some of my favourite pictures of vessels sailed in Baltic wintertime
now you can imagine how north convoys looked after arraval at Murmansk !
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3332/eurostormicing0018rz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7376/finno10fy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/292/finno104pg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2689/eurostormicing0459om.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Celeon999
05-10-2006, 05:34 AM
Wow thats a lot ice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I bet they have a hard time getting new merchant sailors for these routes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The_Silent_O
05-10-2006, 07:04 AM
Great photos Mari!

I especially like the name of the last ship..."Storm" duh!

mariuszj1939
05-10-2006, 07:25 AM
Pictures of Eurostorm were taken in Hamina (Finland) and Finnoak's at Szczecin (Poland).
I heard first one had to wait for 3-4 days to get the ice melted and ready to
discharge.

Kaleun1961
05-10-2006, 07:25 AM
Nice photos. That last one reminds me of that scene in Titanic when Leonardo di Crappio does his "king of the world" thing.

The Murmansk runs were extremely stressful for those who had to sail them. There were practically no means of rescue; falling overboard or abandoning ship in those climes meant death within only a few minutes. In one of my books I read an account of crew from one ship observing an escort. It had a huge accumulation of ice on its decks and structure, which made it heavier. The observer watched it plunging and heaving in the waves, until it went down in one trough and never came up again; the weight of accumulated ice made it plunge under the water and it never came up again. Horrifying to realize how helpless sailors can be in the face of an angry sea.

Celeon999
05-10-2006, 07:42 AM
Imagine the watch crew of a u-boat after hunting murmansk convoys.

I bet they also had to wait a few hours until the ice on the deep froozen watch crew was melting.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3854/snow7cc.gif http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3021/huebscher1wa.gif

mariuszj1939
05-10-2006, 07:44 AM
Have you heard such story ?
One of Polish destoyer sailed in 1944 to Murmansk (as escort of convoy). Some of her sailors did not come even for a moment to the port !!!
Many persons could not believe - it's impossible after dangerous trip via Arctic Ocean.
That's fact - they were so afraid - all of them were in Russian POWs and escape from Soviet Union together with Anders'Army in 1942.

Kaleun1961
05-10-2006, 07:51 AM
I don't blame them for not wanting to go ashore. Who would trust "Uncle Joe?" Stalin treated his own people barbarically. I once worked with a Black American whose unit had the dirty job of forcing Soviet POW's to board the train home after their camp was liberated by the advancing Allied forces. He said they were crying and begging not to go back. They were forced into the trains, the doors were closed. As the train was pulling out he said they could hear the machine guns of the NKVD guards.

yahoshua
05-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Note to self.....do NOT piss overboard while at sea, you'll get rid of more than just your piss.

Hell, your ****** might just go overboard with it if you're out there long enough (and don't lick anything either).

blastomatic1759
05-10-2006, 04:28 PM
its a wonder that the weight of the ice didnt break that front mast pole off. after seeing one the other day , i drove the crane barge to the ship to have it repaired. , im figuring they either drove it under something or a big wave hit it.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/101_1818.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/101_1817.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/101_1819.jpg

mariuszj1939
12-27-2006, 02:11 AM
Photos of Polish destroyers as convoy escort to Murmansk
(what can you feel in such stormy wintertime weather ?)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7736/m5yk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3448/m7ag7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/504/may2006nu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7040/mariuszj1939wp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Goose_Green
12-27-2006, 04:10 AM
Excellent photos mariuszj http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I guess that amount of ice on the ship could cause problems with bouyancy especially in heavy seas http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Goose_Green/sig1copy.jpg

mariuszj1939
03-05-2007, 04:40 AM
old winter pictures
U-30
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/7354/u30tq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
north Atlantic
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2424/wintertimehi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/3653/wintertime11zj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
winter 1937
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7938/lod1937pf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mittelwaechter
03-05-2007, 05:19 AM
Only found this one.
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5556/496knc8.jpg

Foehammer-1
03-05-2007, 05:58 AM
I've got a couple pictures in this book of Russian K-class boats after patrols in winter... I'm really not sure how the things didn't sink because of all that ice :S I'll try to scan and post them later today

mariuszj1939
03-08-2007, 03:17 AM
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8454/zimaik6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6598/zima1lw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Liddabit
03-08-2007, 04:37 AM
That looks absolutely torturous!

klcarroll
03-08-2007, 07:46 AM
All that ice does look like it might attenuate the effectiveness of my 20mm just a bit!

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Foehammer-1
03-08-2007, 10:26 AM
Not just your 20mm, my friend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif This Russian K-class sub got its 100mm gun, two 45mm cannons and several machineguns covered in ice. I wonder what they were gonna do if for some very odd reason they encountered a German merchant in the Baltic sea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Full speed ahead!

(pic on bottom)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/Foehammer88/iced.jpg

joeap
03-08-2007, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Foehammer-1:
Not just your 20mm, my friend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif This Russian K-class sub got its 100mm gun, two 45mm cannons and several machineguns covered in ice. I wonder what they were gonna do if for some very odd reason they encountered a German merchant in the Baltic sea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Full speed ahead!



Actually the K-21 was stationed with the Northern Fleet out of Murmansk, claimed to have torpedoes the Tirpitz (hit with 2 torps, Germans never noticed though). So in fact they could have run into German merchants running along the coast of Norway. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Foehammer-1
03-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Hahaha funny that you bring it up. Apparently, right after the claim the British and the Americans celebrated that Tirpitz was torpedoed, and the British sailors actually took parts off K-21 as souvenirs. And right after the war the same British papers that said oh how great Captain Lunin's boat was, started saying that he was a liar and he didn't shoot at Tirpitz. Amd then, 10 years later, they said he did. So now, 60 years in the future, we can only speculate....

mariuszj1939
03-12-2007, 02:13 AM
some nice winter picts
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6890/zimmaaq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
see how difficult was sailing in wintertime
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4756/zimma1oc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4444/zimma2tk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

gazs_sub
03-12-2007, 05:55 AM
Interesting topic!. Ive got a few russian akulas, oscars, alphas, typhoons, delta class in dock and artic surfacing. Nabbed em up over the last few years. Enjoy! A few below:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/gazphoto/RU_subs191.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/gazphoto/RU_subs148.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/gazphoto/RU_subs146.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/gazphoto/RU_subs133.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/gazphoto/RU_subs122.jpg

mariuszj1939
03-12-2007, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by gazs_sub:
Interesting topic!. Ive got a few russian akulas, oscars, alphas, typhoons, delta class in dock and artic surfacing. Nabbed em up over the last few years. Enjoy! A few below:


Excellent photos especially third one "Tomsk" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

for somebody who has not seen them before (in other topic):
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4175/161395048cd7.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/28/161395082ix6.jpg

gazs_sub
03-12-2007, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by mariuszj1939:

Excellent photos especially third one "Tomsk" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

for somebody who has not seen them before (in other topic):
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4175/161395048cd7.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/28/161395082ix6.jpg

Thanks. Nice! That 2nd one is nutz. Worst. Job. ever.

VikingGrandad
03-20-2007, 07:38 AM
As requested, thread moved to SH4 GD forum.

mariuszj1939
03-20-2007, 07:47 AM
and American submarine in wintertime
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7703/swscan00078ji2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mariuszj1939
10-15-2007, 07:05 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7274/wintertimelr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wh1skea
10-15-2007, 09:06 AM
Here is USS Perch in the early 50's

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/wh1skea/web%20images/0831302.jpg

peanuts111358
10-15-2007, 01:58 PM
As I look at these pictures and read what all is said, all I can do is sit here and shake my head in disbelief that any sailor would do anything in those conditions. My goodness... My hat goes off to those brave souls that braved that kind of weather.

wh1skea
10-15-2007, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by mariuszj1939:
and American submarine in wintertime
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7703/swscan00078ji2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I've seen this image in a book before, but I cant remember what book it was.

USSIWOJIMA
10-15-2007, 06:33 PM
We see a lot of that here in the great lakes.

mariuszj1939
11-08-2007, 03:33 AM
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1147/wintertime2yl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9208/wintertime3dp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4289/wintertime4hx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1376/wintertime5jd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mariuszj1939
11-28-2007, 03:35 AM
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5092/wintertime1dd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3466/wintertime2in7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5960/stormyweatherkn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6452/stormyweather1jl8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mariuszj1939
12-19-2007, 05:05 AM
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8771/wintertime2lv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8277/wintertime1xj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Maverick_U2007
12-19-2007, 06:29 AM
UBIsoft should re-release the game with different packaging with the phrase.....

To further enhance the realism of the game, the recommended minimum specs are RAM, Gigs, Graphics card and an <span class="ev_code_GREEN">4' x 4' Fridge to sit in</span>

Maverick

mariuszj1939
05-13-2008, 07:44 AM
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/471/wintertime11dd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Vlaba
05-13-2008, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by mariuszj1939:
and American submarine in wintertime
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7703/swscan00078ji2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That must be in the Aluetian Islands at Dutch Harbor. What boat is that? I thought the S-18 and a couple other S boats were there, but that sail looks real tiny.

Vlaba

JVSHAPONA
05-14-2008, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by yahoshua:
Note to self.....do NOT piss overboard while at sea, you'll get rid of more than just your piss.

Hell, your ****** might just go overboard with it if you're out there long enough (and don't lick anything either). LOL!!! I have heard it all now! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

mariuszj1939
10-13-2008, 04:23 AM
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9789/vesselsinwintertimefe2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6161/vesselsinwintertime1ki3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ancient46
10-23-2008, 01:28 AM
35 years ago the Navy Department thought it would be nice if a carrier group ported in Florida made a little November trip to the North Atlantic. This included a scenic detour above the Arctic Circle where we were initiated into the Ancient Order of the Polar Bear. The initiation was rather simple. One lap around the deck wearing deck shoes, only deck shoes. Parts of me are still cold from that run! Thank God I was on a destroyer and not a carrier!

It was the only time in my entire Navy career when a coat was needed for switchboard watch in the Engine Room. It was also the only time we looked forward to standing watch over the generators and turbines fed with 925 degree steam.

One good thing about the trip, it added Norway, Amsterdam holland, Portsmouth England, and Hamburg Germany to the list of places I have been.

mariuszj1939
01-07-2009, 03:32 AM
Wintertime 1928 - Baltic Sea

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3987/wintertime1bg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6923/wintertime2mm6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9297/wintertime3sz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MWolfe1963
01-07-2009, 05:06 AM
I bought two old photo albums that belonged to a family that the father was obviously a captain by his uniform. It's been awhile, but many of the ships were in the great lakes area.
Had many pictures of a early 1900's ship called the Juanita that they remodeled a few years ago.
Also has many war sail ships from the civil war in a harbor. Many pictures of Washington, Harpers Ferry, ect...The ship pictures are awesome. A few WW1 warships, but I can't figure the names, but they look like BB's so someone probably could. I doubt there were a lot, but I only paid $20 for both in a box lot and they were in the bottom of the box. They actually scan nice and make good pictures.

tuddley3
01-07-2009, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by mariuszj1939:
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2689/eurostormicing0459om.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

"Bernard !!!, what did I tell you about leaving the freezer door open"

mariuszj1939
11-18-2009, 02:39 AM
http://img527.imageshack.us/im...rianeararkhangel.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5259/hmsnigerianeararkhangel.jpg)
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2648/i02529.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7190/i01564.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4020/i02538.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2838/i02542.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/im...70/22russia19414.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/70/22russia19414.jpg)