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Yellonet
10-17-2004, 08:12 AM
I really really want a C-47 to be modeled for PF, think about it. Flying paratroopers or vital supplies in over enemy terretory. No offensive weapons. Low over the treetops. Can it be any more fun??

The modeler wouldn't be low on reference either. It's a sure success http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
The Ju-52 **Where Eagles Dare music**, which had the same role, could be made flyable for the axis.

Cargopilots stand up!

wuggle85
10-17-2004, 08:59 AM
i agree that would be cool to fly some transport aircraft in enemy territory with no defensive fire power, i think this is one thing the modders need to look at

firehttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifstarter

Mashie_Nibblick
10-17-2004, 09:41 AM
I'm with you guys. I'd love to see some transports, and both the Dakota and '52 come with references aplenty. I can't imagine a real majority of us going head-over-heels at the prospect of playing a cargo campaign, but especially among the offliners, I'm sure there'd be some support. There are some great skins out there for the Ju-52, especially. What's more, what with PF imminent, who among us (I'm sure there are at least a couple dozen of us) wouldn't love to fly a campaign over the Hump?

T_O_A_D
10-17-2004, 09:44 AM
I agree I would like to see some defensless cr@p planes to for several reasons.

Clan_Graham
10-17-2004, 09:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yellonet:
I really really want a C-47 to be modeled for PF, think about it. Flying paratroopers or vital supplies in over enemy terretory. No offensive weapons. Low over the treetops. Can it be any more fun??

The modeler wouldn't be low on reference either. It's a sure success http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
The Ju-52 **Where Eagles Dare music**, which had the same role, could be made flyable for the axis.

Cargopilots stand up! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


The C-47 and the Ju-52...**Where Eagles Despair music**

VF-17_Jolly
10-17-2004, 11:52 AM
http://www.douglasdc3.com/japl2d/1.jpg
If you have FB you will get a C-47 in PF anyway (or maybe not after reading other posts)not flyable though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Yellonet
10-17-2004, 11:58 AM
The C-47 in FB has a machinegun turret I think... so it's just almost defenceless http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

There could be DF missions to drop supplies to encircled allies for instance. Or getting a team of paratroopers inside a certain town. I just think that it would be awesome.. Chute shooting allowed!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VW-IceFire
10-17-2004, 12:03 PM
Thats the Russian built Li-2. The C-47 has no defensive weaponry.

Yellonet
10-17-2004, 12:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Thats the Russian built Li-2. The C-47 has no defensive weaponry. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Better yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Chuck_Older
10-17-2004, 12:19 PM
Why can't you just take an He-111 that has no ammo out for a spin?

Seems daft to me.

Hum-de-dum, straight and level, hum-de-dum, oh look a Hurri. Hum-de-dum, now where is that ripcord?

Yellonet
10-17-2004, 12:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Why can't you just take an He-111 that has no ammo out for a spin?

Seems daft to me.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your right. That would be daft.

It's about the adventure that a plane like the C-47 offers.
You'll probably be shot down most of the missions, but it's so much more fun to make it home in one(more or less) piece when you really got the odds against you.
Come on! You have to admit that flying in over enemy territory with a plane full of paratroopers would be fun. Geronimo!

steiner562
10-17-2004, 12:37 PM
Would be nice to have for sure, coops online would benefit from it for sure(x2),I can hear the 88s ALREADY pounding my cockpit and also screaming like a little girl on TS when an enemy bogey gets on my 6http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

VF-17_Jolly
10-17-2004, 12:43 PM
http://www.il2skins.com:8080/skins/screenshots/8044.jpg SHOWA skin by one13

Yellonet
10-17-2004, 01:12 PM
What are the japanese doing with that Li-2??

VF-17_Jolly
10-17-2004, 01:26 PM
Its a licence built DC-3/C-47

SHOWA L2D2

Yellonet
10-17-2004, 01:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
Its a licence built DC-3/C-47

SHOWA L2D2 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Was the licence signed before or after '41? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

VF-17_Jolly
10-17-2004, 01:31 PM
http://www.douglasdc3.com/japl2d/japl2d.htm

1938 apparently

Chuck_Older
10-17-2004, 01:34 PM
The Japanese got good at building airplanes by looking at how others made it work.

Take a look at some of the Japanese bombers like the Ki-21. It looks like a 2B-2M because that's the plane they based the Ki-21 on.

actionhank1786
10-17-2004, 02:42 PM
That Japanese plane was actually built using blueprints i think.
We gave them the prints before Pearl Harbor

necrobaron
10-17-2004, 02:54 PM
I'd love to see some not-strictly-combat planes made flyable such as the C-47. The C-46 and L-4 (among a few others) also come to mind, though I'm not aware if the 3D models have been done or will be done. While perhaps not as exciting in the same sense as fighter or bomber missions, the missions they endured were often just as dangerous. I'd love to try to fly a little unarmed Piper or Stinson on a recon mission while at the same time trying valiantly to avoid fighters, flak, etc....

Waldo.Pepper
10-17-2004, 02:55 PM
Gave then - no.
Sold them - Yes... they paid for a license unlike some players.

Yellonet
10-17-2004, 03:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Gave then - no.
Sold them - Yes... they paid for a license unlike some players. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Funny guy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Maybe you're one of those p*r*t*s... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hey! Where are all the modelers? Someone please get going on the C-47 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

One13
10-17-2004, 04:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
Its a licence built DC-3/C-47

SHOWA L2D2 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In 1938 Mitsui and Company Ltd bought a licence to build and sell DC-3s for $90.000. This was on the secret instruction of the Japanese Navy. Two unassembled DC-3s were also puchased and sent to Showa Hikoki Kogyo K.K. which was instucted to assemble them and prepare for further production. Nakajima were also asked to participate in production.
The two prototypes were assembled as the Douglas L2D1. Showa and Nakajima adapted the design for the 1,000Hp Mitsubishi Kinsei 43 and this version was built by Showa & Nakajima as the L2D2. This was the Navys standard transport aircraft- the Type 0 Transport Model 11.
The biggest production version (only built by Showa) was the L2D3. This was characterized by additional glazed window area behind the fight deck. These were powered by 1,300Hp Kinsei radials.
The L2D4 had a dorsal turret with a 13mm machinegun ans two 7.7mm guns in the fusalage.
the L2D5 used 1,560Hp Kinsei 62 radials and was built mainly of wood and steel.
The Japanese built 487 L2Ds which were given the Allied codename TABBY. They were met througout the Pacific and often led to tragic recognition errors.
All info. fromJapanese Aircraft of the Pacific War by RJ Francillion.

Cloyd
10-17-2004, 05:02 PM
I would love to have the C-47 pit built, if only to re-live my one flight in an actual IL2/FB/AEP plane. I was flying from Tegucigalpa, Honduras to Guanaja, a Honduran island 50 miles off the coast. I know that it was a surplus C-47 and not a DC-3 because it had the big cargo door. There were crates of chickens and goats being loaded in the rear. We were flying over shark-infested waters, and there was not a life preserver anywhere in sight on the plane. It was a beautiful, sunny day, but the plane and my stomach were bouncing and lurching all around. Half way through the flight the co-pilot emerged from the cockpit with a tray of paper cups of what was 3 hours earlier COKE with ice, but was now clear liquid at the top of a dissolving cup, with a brown stain at the bottom. And my only thought was, "DOOD, GET THE FRICK BACK IN THE COCKPIT, AND FLY THE FRICKIN' PLANE!!" As the plane descended to the landing strip, I looked out the window to see... water, nuthin' but water. With my heart pounding, I'm thinking, "OMFG, WE"RE GONNA DITCH!!" Lower and lower we go, with nuthin but whitecaps visible. Just as it looks like we're gonna land in the ocean, I see below me the boulder-strewn runway, and think,"AHH, now I'm safe." The plane bounces along the runway, and I see the beach at the other end of the runway quickly approaching! Just at the moment that I'm sure we're gonna end up in the drink, the pilot slams on the brakes and does a 180 degree BAT-TURN. Finally the plane comes to a stop, and I no longer have to worry about simultaneously having a heart attack while fluids and solids erupt from every orifice in my body. Being able to simulate moments like this, without all the messy fluids, is why I love this sim. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cloyd