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tsisqua
01-13-2005, 06:29 AM

tsisqua
01-13-2005, 06:29 AM
Well, I don't care if you are old timers, or brand new to the game. I would just like to hear from folks about where the IL2 series stands in your flight simming experience. If you started flying somewhere else, feel free to tell about it.

I'll be at work, so I'll have to check on this when I get home.

Thanks for your participation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Tsisqua

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-13-2005, 06:34 AM
IL2 my first sim?... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ok...ok...My first real flight sim (for PC) was the old venerable Red Baron, but the one that really got my interest was Aces over Europe back in '95 (?) *reminiscing sigh*

TB

flyingscampi
01-13-2005, 06:41 AM
First one I played was the original MS Flight Sim v2 .

I've tried loads of them since then and lost interest in all of them fairly quickly.

CFS3 lasted about three days I think.

I've played this for just over a year and it's more like a hobby now than a game.

HansKnappstick
01-13-2005, 06:46 AM
The first one to answer "yes".

In fact, I bought the original Il-2 in order to test my new rig, (the older one - a 486 - broke after 5 years of playing mostly "Civilization").



Disclaimer: "Civilization" is the trade mark of... well... humankind I suppose?

S 8
01-13-2005, 06:48 AM
I started to play flightsims first time on the C-64.Aces of aces,ACE,Thomahawk,Spitfire,F15 to mention a few(still go them and the C-64 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.Then I moved on to Atari 512 STFM with most of its flightsims.Played Flight of intruder a lot,but sideviews only showed silloutest due to shortage of memory so I bought myself a Atari 1040 STE with a wopping 1mb memory!From that comp I moved on to a PC for the first time,a P2 400mgz one with a 8mb ATI pro card,wich later was replaced with a 12mb Voodoo2,wich later was replaced with a 16mb Voodoo 3.To that computer I bough most of Jane´s flightsims,and a few others.Now I struggle with my 2.26 ghz (my second PC)with PF.

Finkeren
01-13-2005, 06:48 AM
My first was the old, old encredibly old school sims of "their finest hour" and "secret weapons of the Luftwaffe" by Lucasarts. Both were truly great and fun, especially in campaign mode (you actually got to commandeer the entrire RAF/USAAF/Luftwaffe)

After that I moved onto the entire ACES series by Sierra/Apogee, all of them great but slightly less flexible in terms of customising.

I played Pacific Strike for some time just to watch the hilarious storyline and characters.
Later I got the great 1942 Pacific Air War witch was really challenging due to the increased speed of the sim and the lack of padlock.

Even later I got onto Europian Air War and Janes WWII. Especially EAW still surpasses IL2/FB/PF in some aspects, Janes seemed a bit dull exept for the ground attack possibilities.

I tried out all the Microsoft Combat Flightsims but I only liked the CFS2 (It was only recently that I deleted it in favor of PF). The rest went to the pawnshop after only days of playing!

I flew Luftwaffe Commander and something that I think was called "Warbirds...something" for a few months but found both rather unrealistic and inflexible.

I have also crossed paths with B-17 Flying fortress but got tired of the huge amount of graphic issues and gerally bad performance of the sim.

Finally I stumbled upon IL2 and now I've come to stay! No sim has offered som much with so few vices, and on top of that, the most flexible possibilities ever seen. You can do almost anything you ever wanted to, and that is an experience I have not had since the old days of SWOTL in 1991!
Ever since I've only had a short flirt with CFS 3 but I always end up coming back to Maddox and 1C, they're the greatest, no matter how frustrated I get waiting for the next patch. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
No other sim has done so much for me, and i hope to see a lot more from the hands of the team http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Bearcat99
01-13-2005, 07:49 AM
My first non-arcade (as in go to the arcade and drop in quarters) if you can call it that was F-16 Fighting Falcon for the Sega Syastem. It was on a PCI card.. that was back in 86-89.

Flash forward to @92 F117 Stealth by Micro somebody or other (Not MS). That lasted for @ 3 months... then my PC died.....

Flash forward to @98.... Warbirds II... I got the disk from a friend of mine.. installed it... that was my first WW2 sim. Personal issues ans once again a FUBAR PC took that out.

Flash forward to 2000.... I always wanted to get MS CFS1.... Before we left NY I had upgrade my PC to a PII233MHZ system.. I went into Best Buy and someone had installed CFS1 on a PC there... I was impressed. The graphics on some of the others was kind of a turn off to me but this was..... just... WOW to me at the time. Id stop in there occasionally to fiddle wit it. Due to money issues and the fact that we had just moved and I was too busy just learning my way around..... I didnt have too much time. One yeart later.... immediately after 9/11 I went to Best Buy to get FS2K since I had heard that that was what the terrorists used to train and I always wanted to get into flight sims anyway. I picked up CFS1...... and that was it. I discovered the Zone. Online squadrons. I checked out Warbirds, CFS2 and Fighter Ace, but i preferred CFS1 since tat was where most of my buddies were.. Then.....
IL2.... and I have been here since.

jurinko
01-13-2005, 07:59 AM
yes IL-2 took my virginity away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif what a pleasure! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GrinderX9
01-13-2005, 08:01 AM
My first was European Air War.

BelaLvgosi
01-13-2005, 08:04 AM
Excepting older and non hardcore 80s-early 90s stuff as spectrum holobyte's falcon 1, ms fs3 and microprose's f19, my first simulator with a heavy manual was microprose's F14 fleet defender back in 94, rowan's dawn patrol was very enjoyable too.

adlabs6
01-13-2005, 08:04 AM
I started with Microsoft Flight Simulator 5 in 1995. The original IL2 was my first WW2 sim. I still fly FS2004 most of the time these days, a really enjoyable sim.

madsarmy
01-13-2005, 08:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jurinko:
yes IL-2 took my virginity away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif what a pleasure! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"How sweet!"
Your first love you never forgethttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CDN_Merlin
01-13-2005, 08:21 AM
My first sim was Chuck Yeagers Air Combat???

Udidtoo
01-13-2005, 08:25 AM
I've been ground looping and crashing in fun and creative ways since good old Red Baron but in all honesty this "feels " like my 1st simm over and over.
Kinda like being introduced to beef by someone back in the original RD days with it being the equal of a nice burger, then I went thru my CFS phases which equaled round streak(which is neither round or steak imo) Worked my way up to a nice New York Strip with Janes Fighters and finally while walking thru a BestBuy one day I discovered that in Russia 2 inch thick lean trimmed Porterhouse is pronounced Strumovik mmm mmm mmm tasty good.

FatBoyHK
01-13-2005, 08:25 AM
My first is SWOTL.....good old time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
01-13-2005, 08:30 AM
FighterPilot - Schneider CPC 464


OMG that was 1984 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Breeze147
01-13-2005, 08:35 AM
Not my first slight sim. Janes FA/18 was my first slight sim. I own all of the Il-2 series through PF. Other slight sims I own are LOMAC, Janes F-15, Falcon 4.0, but I hardly touch those slight sims. I had EAW but gave it away. Those are all of my slight sims. Slight sims are practically the only genre of PC games I play, along with the Call Of Duty and Medal Of Honor series. I really enjoy slight sims.

zjulik
01-13-2005, 08:41 AM
Slight sim - see "arcade settings".
By the way, IL2 is ok, but my all time favorite is still Combat Slight Stimulator.

Tallyho1961
01-13-2005, 08:47 AM
I haven't kept records, but my flight sim pedigree is something like this:

1. F22
2. Apache Helicopter
3. Dawn Patrol - WWI
4. Warbirds
5. IL2 series

I only dabbled with the first four - didn't have a good rig or flight equipment - and they didn't hold my attention. When I stumbled upon IL2, I hadn't owned or flown a flight sim in probably four years. To my surprise, IL2 grabbed me and hasn't let go.

After just over a year with the series, I've got a pretty good rig put together, good flight equipment, I've learned to fly reasonably well and have discovered the added fun of participating in these forums.

S!

dazza9806482
01-13-2005, 09:22 AM
Played F22 Interceptor with a keyboard when i was 13

then had a ten year hiatus until i bought il2 with my first pc

hooked and a year and a half later im still loving it

actually quick question: is Lomac good? ive got the demo but cant decide if id like it

Chuck_Older
01-13-2005, 10:08 AM
Wow, the results of the poll really tells me something about the average age of Il2 players!

SeaFireLIV
01-13-2005, 11:29 AM
It`s hard to remember the very first flight sim I played. I had a run on the Spitfire `40 which was almost impossible to play (a wonder i never went off flight sims for good... but then again, flight sims were pretty much an experimental species on the home Spectrum).

Later did the Apache sim on the spectrum which i really loved.

went on to falcon and another version of Apache on the Amiga; lost my Amiga when I left home and played Apache on the Playstation for a while...

Hmmm, then went on another PC sim that had `The most modern fighter aircraft ever in a flight sim` (can`t remember name. Some American Pacific sim by Lucas arts as well as Pacific Air War...

...went on TAW for a while (everlasting campaigns). Falcon 3.0, 4.0, Apache/Havoc (which I still enjoy to this day).

European Air war... IL2..

Hmmm...

Wow. have I really flown that many sims until IL2? I always thought I just dabbled in them... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG52_wunsch
01-13-2005, 11:39 AM
yep.il2 was/is my first flight sim.and the main reason i bought it was because it involved
the east front.

Finkeren
01-13-2005, 12:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:

Hmmm, then went on another PC sim that had `The most modern fighter aircraft ever in a flight sim` (can`t remember name. Some American Pacific sim by Lucas arts as well as Pacific Air War...

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're propably thinking of Pacific Strike, the game with the long dialouge scenes starring the real, as they were, 2D animated heroes of the pacific? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Sure loved it for the hilarious execution of the rat! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Oh and BTW: You old Spectrum users are the greatest! I'm deeply honoured to be in your presence http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

The190Flyer
01-13-2005, 12:41 PM
I started out playing the original CFS, didn't play it all that long though. IL-2 was the first sim I took seriously, I actually read a review on the Internet and it said how amazing IL-2 was, so I looked it up bought it and the rest was history! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Oh yeah bought CFS3 and played it literally for about 5 minutes before uninstalling it, just couldn't go back to the fake arcade stuff, IL-2 is the real deal baby!!!

S! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

a.k.a. BIFF P-51 PILOT in ubi.com lobbies

DONB3397
01-13-2005, 12:56 PM
Flight sims are addictive. My first was MS's first FS, acquired from Bruce Ardvyk. The combat 'map' was the equivalent of about 100 square miles, and the enemy a/c were stick figures. Then every non-arcade WW II combat (flight) sim since.

I like it better now.

IL2/AEP/PF is what we used to imagine it could be...and maybe a little beyond.

SeminoleX
01-13-2005, 01:10 PM
Battle Hawks 42

F19_Ob
01-13-2005, 01:10 PM
My brother had a game "their finest hour" a ww2 sim on Amiga500.
Dont know how long ago that was but from there I was hooked on flightsims.
The Il-2 series has boosted my hunger for knowledge about ww2 planes and their historical roles.
My former friends had no interest for history or planes but the ones I know through il2 often have similar interests in general wich is great.
thnx for that mates http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-13-2005, 01:20 PM
My first sim was FS4.0 or falcon1.0 I don't know anymore...

LeadSpitter_
01-13-2005, 01:22 PM
Chuck Yeagars flight sim was my first

I basically had almost everyone ever made with the exception of a couple like IAF and a few of the jet sims.

Most memorable was the

Aces over the pacific
Aces over europe
Aces over russia &lt;- first true russian flight sim not il2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
wings of the luftwaffe
f-117
airwarriors
fighter ace
janes wwii fighters and attack squadron
cfs series and fs
xplane
falcon 3.0 4.0
redbaron
warbirds i ii iii
wwiiol
wwii carrierops
f14 fleet defender
f15 strike eagle I II
novalogic mig29 f22 f16.

So many others its difficult to list.

There was one I cant remember the name of it but was an online flightsim which had planes of all eras wwi wwii korea vietnam and modern just 2-4 planes of each era that use to be fun if anyone remembers it let me know the name http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VMF-451_Yankee
01-13-2005, 01:28 PM
started out in CFS1 in 99, was there for 3 years, moved to CFS2, was there for about 2, and came in here, Oct of 2003..Been here since..and lovin every second of it..

mp1852
01-13-2005, 01:45 PM
Just like "S 8" :-)
Spitfire on C64 (+F19 by Microprose and all the stuff)
Battlehawks 1942 / Their finest hour (best of all time..) / SWOTL / The whole Dynamix-series (Red Baron is still my favorite)
European Air War / 1942 The Pacific Air War by Microprose (by the way.. a salute to them...)
The CFS-Series, and the IL-2 Stuff which is my favorite now...
and I like Lock on too...

tsisqua
01-13-2005, 02:23 PM
Well, here is my story:

First saw a flight sim on some kind of Tandy computer. First saw a combat flight sim at a friend's home, and fell in love. It was CFS original, based on FS98's beautiful engine (for then).

I couldn't find cfs at the store. I saw something else: Jane's WWII Fighters. I was blown away by how much more it made me feel as if I were in the pit.

A friend got me a copy of CFS so we could fly together, and was I hooked!

Well, somewhere in there were flirtations with EAW, Jane's USAF (The BEST jet game I have ever played, I don't care what anyone says!), FA18, a short stint with Aces High, and Warbirds, and finally landed here.

You really have to see what the other sims that are out there, are really like. Attempting to balance all of the system requirements with the average user's machine has always been a real problem. When I first was able to play IL2, I wondered only one thing: "How the Hell did Maddox do it?".

I still wonder. I still haven't looked back, especially since CFS3. Oh, yeah, I played CFS2, was in a great squad, and LOVED the game. I still do. But it can't scratch the butt of Pacific Fighters!

It's all about that feeling of being there, and I want to say thanks to 1c Maddox Games. You guys have come closer than I ever thought possible.


Thanks for taking the time, Friends http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Tsisqua

Vipez-
01-13-2005, 03:04 PM
Hmm, if we are talking about serious flight sim WW-2 sims, its SWOTL,, what a great game for its time.. infact it was excelent! Lucasarts sure knew how to make good games back then..

First simulation (non ww-2) was possibly F-15 strike eagle on old commodore .. good game for its time as well.. and I also had a 2d simulation on pacific front... you tried to sink ships with jap/US dive bomber http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif wish i could recall the name of the game...

DuxCorvan
01-13-2005, 03:05 PM
My first sims: Battlehawks 1942 and Their Finest Hour, by Lucasfilm, and F-19 Stealth Fighter by Microprose. It was about 1990, and I had to upgrade to an AT 286 to play them decently...

Then came SWOTL, Knights of the Sky, Red Baron, F-15 Strike Eagle II, Aces of the Pacific, Aces over Europe, Gunship 2000, ATAC, Chuck Yeager's AC, Stunt Island -interesting concept!-Dogfight, F-14, F-15 III, Pacific Air War, Dawn Patrol, CFS1, EF2000, WW2 Fighters, EAW, F-22 TAW, MiG Alley, Apache Longbow, Falcon 4.0, Battle of Britain, Apache vs Havoc, CFS2, Xtreme Air Racing... and some more.

and finally X-Plane, FS2004, the Il-2 series and LOMAC...

...a long way. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SeaFireLIV
01-13-2005, 03:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:


It's all about that feeling of being there, and I want to say thanks to 1c Maddox Games. You guys have come closer than I ever thought possible.


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes indeed, Sir. When you look back at what was and what we now have in IL2 with the unprecedented input-to-users from Oleg, it makes us really feel somewhat humbled.

Perhaps this is why I sometimes sound a little hard on someone who`s never flown a flight-sim before and rudely insults all of Oleg`s effort without any good cause. If they could only see what came before.... (uh, oh - I sense Fan-boy title coming up!)

MaxBruder
01-13-2005, 03:34 PM
First was a Timex/Sinclair classic, Flight Simulator, then Knights of the Sky, SWOTL, F-15, Red Baron 3D, European Air War, and on and on. IL2 is the absolute best.

ginger_cat
01-13-2005, 03:50 PM
I have a distant memory of watching 'Tomorrow's World' (U.K. T.V. show from years back) and seeing an arcade style simulator and the presenter explaining that one day we might be able to have a similar device at home and dog-fight against other people in their homes, connected via the telephone! That must have been about twenty years ago and I fell in love with the idea.

I didn't discover 'puters until 1998 when I was given an 8086. After a brief affair with a 486 SX25, I graduated to an AMD K6-2 450Mhz in late 1999 and almost straight away went out and bought CFS1. I played that online and went on to CFS2 when it was released - that was the bees-knees at the time. I played CFS2 online obsessively - under the names 'happygingercat' and lil-cat (with the squad prefix of VF451).

Around the same time I remember a lot of excited talk about a new WW2 sim being developed 'by the community for the community' (that's how I remember it anyway) and invites for cf simmers to get involved. Yeah, I'm talking about Il-2!

I couldn't wait to get CFS3 installed but never felt happy with it - not just trying to get it to run decently but the whole interface never felt right - I could never work out or remember how to do things and I hate the pilot career/development angle that CFS3 has! Buy my own kite? They're 'avving a larf innit? About this time I stopped flying online for various reasons, mainly shift work and sleeping patterns(I used to fly with a USA/Canada squad but I'm in U.K. - so that meant being online 2:00 - 5:00 am).

So, what seems in my memory to be around the same time, I bought the original Il-2, and have bought FB, AEP and PF since. I only fly off-line now but keep getting the urge to give it a go with the Il-2 series - just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I only fly FB+AEP+PF now.

faustnik
01-13-2005, 04:07 PM
OK, I'm a n00b. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif IL-2 Demo was my first flight sim. I was given a copy of CFS2 but, never really got into it. Some people over at the Panzer Elite forum convinced me to try the the IL-2 demo bacause it was Eastern Front.

I sure got a lot of help when I got a modem at home and ventured online. Stigler, Relentov, Uhoh6 and others were great at providing nOOb assistance. Then I joined the 777AVG flying P-39s and suffered from there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LW_Icarus
01-13-2005, 04:13 PM
Well, IL2 wasnt first, but its definitely the best.

I guess the first sim I used was on an old trs80 radioshack computer. it was a series of white dots to show you the artificial horizon, and a bunch of numbers across the bottom that gave you most of the important info such as heading, altitude,speed etc. IFR only lol.

then it was on to consoles for some time, and I think it was F-22 for the sega that was next. more a game than a sim but it did have internal views if I remember correctly.

then some air battle game for the sega saturn that was OK, was ww2 A/C ,with lots of ground attack missions and such. no internals if memory serves me.

IL2 original is the first windows based sim I tried, and it has spawned a whole new hobby for me. Actually it made me sell my Apple to buy parts for the PC heh.

ImpStarDuece
01-13-2005, 05:07 PM
Pains me to admit this but the first 'fligh sim' i can remember playing was 'Top Gun' on the old NES. Sort of a G-Lock port without the crazy arcade set up. Anyone remember how difficult the %&'() carrier landings were? You switched from a third person view to a 'Lander' style view and had to guide the bird in down a flight path with the LSO telling you 'up' 'Slower' 'down' etc. Was really difficult. Infact I think i only pulled off about a dozen landings in ten times that many attempts.

PC sims I played included EAW, CFS 1 and 2, A10 Cuba, Su-27 and EF2000 (which was the most fun apart from IL2 even if the install was a cast iron b1tc|-| )

Armor369
01-13-2005, 05:38 PM
A little trip down memory lane...

1984: F-15 Strike Eagle, Microprose
1989: A 'Battle of Britain' title ?
1994: Falcon 3.0, ?
1994: 1942 Pacific Air War, Microprose
2001: CFS2, Microsoft
2003: IL-2 Sturmovik, Ubisoft
2004: IL-2 Forgotten Battles, Ubisoft

IL-2 was really a quantum leap forward in every aspect of the flight sim experience.

woofiedog
01-13-2005, 05:57 PM
On my computer it was
B-17 Flying Fortress
Red Baron
CFS2 & 3
Apache AH-64
IL-2 Sturmovik
IL-2 Forgotten Battles
Ace's
Pacific Fighters

And which I still have and it runs Mint! A Channel F Fairchilds... with The Red Baron.
I purchased it in 1979.
http://www.classicgaming.com/gamingmuseum/ChannelF.gif

civildog
01-13-2005, 11:51 PM
LOL!!!! I think my list goes back the farthest, dang I'm old! My first sims:

Sublogic's version of Flight Simulator on the Commodore 64, then my Tandy 1000.

Then moving onto Sublogic's wireframe fighter sim "Jet"...you could fly F-16's against assorted MiG's or F-18's against Soviet destroyers and MiGs.

I have played nearly every sim to death ever since. Every version of Falcon (including Fulcrum and the semimythical A-10 add on), Tornado, Flanker, SWOTL, Aces Over the Pacific, Aces over Europe, Pacific Air War,...ad naseum.

I just wish I could still play some of those older games - they may not have had the best graphics when compared to today's, but they always worked (ok, Falcon 4.0 requires work but it works), were fun to play and yet as realistic as could be expected.

The perfect sim would have the mission planning and dynamic campaigns from Falcon or Tornado, the atmosphere of "Thier Finest Hour" or Gunship 2000, and the in game comms of EAW...just love that British. "Good kill, good kill!" when you knock down a 109, and the FM/graphic/sound of FB/PF.

adlabs6
01-14-2005, 12:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
Pains me to admit this but the first 'fligh sim' i can remember playing was 'Top Gun' on the old NES. Sort of a G-Lock port without the crazy arcade set up. Anyone remember how difficult the %&'() carrier landings were? You switched from a third person view to a 'Lander' style view and had to guide the bird in down a flight path with the LSO telling you 'up' 'Slower' 'down' etc. Was really difficult. Infact I think i only pulled off about a dozen landings in ten times that many attempts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! Yes I recall that. I can still feel the NES controller in my hands while playing that game, even though it was probably more than 15 years ago. Oh how many times did that little F-14 sprite turn into a fireball on the rear of that carrier? And that opening title theme, in glorious NES tones. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

MO_JOJO
01-14-2005, 01:05 AM
My first flight sim was not on PC. Does anyone remember the arcade game Mach3, ca. 1983? It was a laserdisc drive sim and I think the plane was an F15. Man, did I spend some quarters in that thing at the 7-11!!!

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=M&game_id=8471

http://tcr22.tripod.com/7/

1983- Mach3 (arcade)
1998- Janes (PC) my computer couldn't handle it.
2002- IL-2 (Finally, I get to fly!)
2004- FB/AEP Gold
2004- PF (Haven't opened yet...I know, I know)

civildog
01-14-2005, 01:21 AM
I remember that game! Wasn't that the one two people could play side by side, or am I thinking of a different one? You flew from a view outside and to the rear of the plane.

MO_JOJO
01-14-2005, 03:58 AM
There are photos in my previous post just above here.

SKIDRO_79FS
01-14-2005, 05:03 AM
I started with Warbirds I and Air Warrior, moved on to Air Warrior II, CFS, FS98, CFS2, CFS3 (ack!), FS2002, IL2, FB and AEP and in there somewhere were also Warbirds III, Mig Alley and Pearl Harbor-Zero Hour (not really a sim but the recreation of the attack on Pearl Harbor is pretty amazing to view). I think that's all of them...

Vacillator
01-14-2005, 05:34 AM
First for me was Lucasarts' Battle of Britain game - might have been called something else? On an Atari 512ST. Got about 0.5 fps and even less when firing guns (painful - bang, wait, bang, wait, bang etc.). Then physically soldered in 16 separate chips to upgrade memory to 1 gig! Performance was still cr*p, but I liked the idea of the game and this eventually led me to Il-2 so I'm not complaining.

Salfordian
01-14-2005, 05:47 AM
My first flight sim was flight of the intruder on the amiga. Other amiga ones I had were, tornado, dogfight and gunship.

Since we got our first pc, I've had Janes US Navy fighters, Janes USAF, Janes ATF, SVGA Harrier (?), CFS series, apache-havoc, gunship, lo-mac to name but a few. The best I've ever had though are still the IL2 series and Falcon 4.

Johan217
01-14-2005, 06:05 AM
SubLogic FS2 on AtariST. Those were the days where my dad tested all games before he would give them to me - only the best was good enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I also learned my English from the manual http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

After that, rock music and girls took up most of my time until I got a 486 and Pacific Air War.

Fliegeroffizier
01-14-2005, 03:00 PM
Can't remember the name, but it was a Split-screen(upper/lower) combat flight "sim" game by Atari for it's "console" with(as I recall) had about 64Kb "ram"....in about 1982 or 1983...two little "joystick-like controllers" and you "flew" against each other from your Fixed 12 o'clock viewpoint.

A short time later, MicroProse's F15 Strike Eagle...prob in 1984 or thereabouts.

Then everything that came along after that, focussing in on WWII Sim's (EAW, CFS1/2, etc) and avoiding Jet Sim's totally.

adriatic
01-14-2005, 03:10 PM
My first flight sim.

I buy my first comp because of IL-2 after seeing it by my friend.

Imediatly.

ASM 1
01-14-2005, 03:32 PM
Spitfire '40 on the venerable BBC MICRO back in '87 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

then a 11 year wait, for Rowan's "Flying Corps Gold" on PC (which I still have - must see if I can get it to run on XP, couldnt before but I have since found a site with instructions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

That did me till I upgraded my PC and found FB in 2002 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tsisqua
01-14-2005, 08:00 PM
I want to take a minute to say thank you to every one of you. The poll has resulted in 14% of us posting are playing for the first time on IL2. I think that represents a sizable portion of us.

To have decent flight models, or to have a game that looks as good as this one, coded so that it will actually work on a home pc! I stand in awe of the outstanding beauty of this game.

Thanks Again!
Tsisqua

dieg777
01-14-2005, 11:12 PM
Like Andrew cut my teeth on Flying corp-then CFS1 which put me off as I hated the way it flew-back to Flying Corp then IL2 -HOOKED !

BTW andy -never could get FLying Corp to run on XP - actually set up dual boot system with win98 and XP just to keep playing it- if you suceed let me know as it is still a favourite.

These sims have taught me a lot about PCs as iv tweaked and upgraded and finally bought newer rigs- now on my 3th PC after maxing out the others- hate to think of cost over the years- then I come here and see CH products, Track IR etc and my wallet runs and hides in the corner

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

FlakMagnent
01-14-2005, 11:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:
Well, I don't care if you are old timers, or brand new to the game. I would just like to hear from folks about where the IL2 series stands in your flight simming experience. If you started flying somewhere else, feel free to tell about it.

I'll be at work, so I'll have to check on this when I get home.

Thanks for your participation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Tsisqua <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My first sim was Aces Over Europe. Matter of fact, I still have the disc. It was actually my very first PC Game.

F0_Dark_P
01-15-2005, 02:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jurinko:
yes IL-2 took my virginity away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif what a pleasure! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Good for you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif , I lost my virginity to a game named Warbirds

But just like the first girl you where with, it was exciting at first, but then after a while you realized that she was not your type

so i broke up with Warbirds, and then i found CFS1, a game that i fell in love with, i played a while, but then Janes WWII Fighters came to me

i fell in love yet again, but this time it was something more, this was special, she and i where soulmates, but we slipped away from each other

i got my new computer and i found Il2, i got it and all additions, i found yet a new love http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif , and i wish we can be together for a long time to come

but to tell the truth, i still think on WWII Fighters, that game will allways be a part of me..http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

delta_9_tetra
01-15-2005, 05:36 AM
I always expected a flight sim to show me the pilots view, in a faithful reproduction cockpit, with the dials and switches and stuff, and I would look around through the cockpit windows for the baddies.

Red Baron, cfs1, F/A-18, SDoE, never really gave an illusion of flight. The old pc was not really powerful, but I got a new one just as IL-2 demo came along.

I'd always wondered how the heck the game producers got away with calling the things flight sims, until IL-2. At last I saw a sim with the things I wanted.

Native TrackIR enhanced support just makes the pleasure complete!

Wemic
01-16-2005, 12:55 PM
I regularly played that old wireframe thingy by Sublogic on the Apple back in the dark ages at this computer shop across the street. The first one I owned was Falcon on my 8088.

Wemic

Heavy_Weather
01-16-2005, 01:06 PM
F-15 Strike Eagle on C-64 was the first for me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

unseen84
01-16-2005, 02:34 PM
Chuck Yeager's Air Combat was my first, but Aces over the Pacific was the one that hooked me.

tenmmike
01-16-2005, 05:38 PM
didnt even have a pc till i saw il-2 written about in some magazine , so i built me a computer just to fly this ,then i bought cfs2 and 3 and b-17 mighty eighth , gave mighty eigth away to a forum member and uninstalled cfs 2 and 3 so yes this is/was my first

Shultze_87
01-16-2005, 09:28 PM
S!
Started wit US Navy Fighters in '94...and then CFS1,2,3...also F/A-18 Korea and Iraqi Freedom...but IL2+FB+PF really rocks...

heywooood
01-16-2005, 09:37 PM
first non-arcade/non-console flight sim.

is there another one?....looking at GMX/Rowen BoB forums it seems they will accept open source third party aircraft and FM's....also - the map topography looks dated already.

*Poof*

I'll wait for the 1c version methinks...

Rab03
01-17-2005, 12:49 AM
Ah, remembering the old days:

C64: Ace 2, Ace of aces, Gunship,...
PC: F19fs, Dogfight, F22,...

Rab09
01-17-2005, 01:46 AM
Lets see, first flight sim was Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer (Electronic Arts) with the 5.25 floppy you had to have in to play. Then IL2 Demo and the rest is history as the others in my cd drawer stay there. (ms flight sim98,ms CFS2 wwII Pacific Theather,B-17 Flying Fortress,Janes WWII Fighters)--Although I still fly Red Baron 3D once in awhile.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifNow I only fly mainly offline with FB+AEP+BOE+PF and of course the origional IL2,once in awhile to fly the I-16 that has trim tabshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Covino
01-17-2005, 07:38 AM
My first flight sim was the first Microsoft Flight Simulator that came on two floppies.

Now I'm on Flight Sim 9 (2004) which comes on 4 CD's. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

tsisqua
01-17-2005, 08:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Covino:
My first flight sim was the first Microsoft Flight Simulator that came on two floppies.

Now I'm on Flight Sim 9 (2004) which comes on 4 CD's. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha ha! I know the feeling. What really drives me nutzo is, having to seperate the gameplay cd from the rest of a big set like FS9. By the time that you have two or three games on your machine that you enjoy regularly, you have a big mess! I just wish that they would do things as they did with FS2002 . . . you didn't need a disk, just an installation. Seems that the ones who they don't trust aren't the pirates, who will always have a coppy of whatever they want, but the customers who went out and bought the software http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Sorry . . . that was a mini-rant, and I hijacked my own thread.

I am really enjoying the reading, here. I have even seen people talk about some flight games that I am hearing of for the first time!


Tsisqua