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Skoshi Tiger
04-28-2008, 04:28 AM
Hi,
I put together a computer last week and everything went reasonably smoothly except that it would hang every so often.

( XfX 790i Ultra MB
E8500 CPU
Nvidia 9800GTX graphics
2Gb RAM )

I checked out the Internet and found that a new BIOS had been released.

I downloaded the program from the board maker and ran the Nvidia 'System Update' program. I backed up the BIOS and started to flash the new one.

Halfway through I got a corrupted file error from the update program.

"No Problems, I'll just flash the backup." I started and halfway through my PC hung!!!!!

"AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

The echos were heard around the World!

With a empty feeling deep down inside I tried unsuccessfly to restart my computer, got on the internet, tried a few things, then pulled out the motherboard and put it back in its box.

The 'good new' is that when I took the board back to the retailer this afternoon and talked to the service department and explained, they gave me a replacement board (They had a 2 week DOA period).

My PC is now back in action and hasn't crashed yet, (It could have been a fault in the board - who knows!) and I'll be able to get some sleep tonight!

The lessons learned were:
1. Don't use the windows program to flash the BIOS. (I've used DOS flash programs for my ohter boards about a dozen times no problems)
2. Don't flash the BIOS unless you really need to and you know its going to help!
3. Be nice to the people at the service desks!) You never know when it'll come in handy.
4. Check out the return policy at the shops you use.

R_Target
04-28-2008, 04:54 AM
Having known people who had the power go out in the middle of a BIOS flash, I'd add:

5. Invest in an UPS.

Capt.LoneRanger
04-28-2008, 06:52 AM
An UPS for normal users? Errrr - okay.

The only advice anybody should really accept and take notice of is really much simpler than that and costs a lot less:

NEVER CHANGE A RUNNING SYSTEM !

Just because there is a new driver / bios / update / upgrade does not mean that you really need it. If your computer works fine without, be happy and forget about it.


BTW... the XfX 790i Ultra has a BIOS-restore-function, doesn't it?

MaxMhz
04-28-2008, 07:07 AM
If it is not broken, do not fix it.

BIOS flashing to up- or downgrade the BIOS can go wrong. If done too often Vista may also need to be re-registered (it thinks it is installed on another system then).

In case things do go wrong there should be a jumper on the mainboard to reset the BIOS to it's factory state. See the motherboard manual.

Another method is to take out the Motherboard battery and leave it out for a couple of hours.

SeaFireLIV
04-28-2008, 07:11 AM
I`ve flashed my bios several times through windows and not had a problem yet!

But I would agree that one should flash only if really necessary.

FlatSpinMan
04-28-2008, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
I`ve flashed my bios several times through windows and not had a problem yet!

But I would agree that one should flash only if really necessary.

Pervert. You oughta be locked up.

steiner562
04-28-2008, 10:18 AM
Had the same thing happen to me using ASUS flashing programme,needless to say I've learned my lesson and will only be flashing using a USB keydrive in future.

R_Target
04-28-2008, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
An UPS for normal users? Errrr - okay.

Nah, not necessarily for average users (although it never hurts). But most average users aren't doing DOS BIOS flashing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


The only advice anybody should really accept and take notice of is really much simpler than that and costs a lot less:

NEVER CHANGE A RUNNING SYSTEM !

Agree 100%.

Capt.LoneRanger
04-28-2008, 04:27 PM
R_Target, I built almost all the PCs for my friends and keep them working. You wouldn't expect how many people believe in things like ntune and follow all update-options offered there... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I don't blame them. It's offered with standard-drivers nowadays and the risk is very much neglected by the procedure-description. But once the BIOS-flashing failed, there is most of the time not even a chance to get to the internet to see what to do next and fiddling around with jumpers on the mainboard is a lot more complicated than clicking the "update BIOS button". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

badatit
04-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
I`ve flashed my bios several times through windows and not had a problem yet!

But I would agree that one should flash only if really necessary.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/249422-30-790i-ultra-...rol-panel-bios-flash (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/249422-30-790i-ultra-nvidia-control-panel-bios-flash)

SeaFireLIV
04-29-2008, 05:04 PM
Yea, i`ve realised something... i`m using a different utility that came with my Motherboard. I`m using Gigabyte`s Window`s flash utility. I`ve NEVER touch Nvidia`s bios thing, I`m glad to say.

badatit
04-29-2008, 05:09 PM
Myself, I prefer a bin file and a good old floppy disk (even then there's always that feeling of "what if" doom).

For anybody else with that particular mainboard...and feel the need to flash it...
http://www.bjorn3d.com/forum/showthread.php?p=142583
and
http://www.bjorn3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22726

Treetop64
04-29-2008, 11:04 PM
BIOS is the one thing you don't want to fart with unless you have to. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.

Airmail109
04-30-2008, 01:51 AM
Check to see if the cpu fan is mounted properly. The standard intel ones come unstuck quite easily. Did you apply thermal paste?

Skoshi Tiger
04-30-2008, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
Check to see if the cpu fan is mounted properly. The standard intel ones come unstuck quite easily. Did you apply thermal paste?

As the CPU/fan was new it was using the supplied thermal paste on the bottom of the heat sink.

I'ld been keeping an eye on the temperatures and they had been OK (CPU's ~ 50C odd, chipset~40 odd)

When it was running irregular it was only crashing 1-2 times a day. Enough to be really annoying! I couldn't pick out any pattern to it.

Thats what led me to think about flashing the BIOS.

So Far! (touch wood, fingers crossed) with the new board things have been going really good! No crashes, nothing unusual

WTE_Ibis
04-30-2008, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
I`ve flashed my bios several times through windows and not had a problem yet!

But I would agree that one should flash only if really necessary.

Pervert. You oughta be locked up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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+1 at least he could do it away from the windows.

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